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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2017, 11:30:22 AM »
Jay looks awesome there and weinbergers headbis bigger than jays haha.

Yes but Jay wins in the chin department. ;)

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2017, 11:43:18 AM »
Whatever he's doing he looks happy and young. He looks like he takes phenomenal care of himself. Probably has a list of health supplements etc.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2017, 11:48:11 AM »

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2017, 01:13:25 PM »
I'd guess 500-1000mg of test a week. More like 500. Maybe 4iu gh.

I'm sure jay is well aware of guys like Nasser using 5g/wk well after retiring and seeing how that worked out for him.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2017, 01:16:53 PM »
I'd guess 500-1000mg of test a week. More like 500. Maybe 4iu gh.

I'm sure jay is well aware of guys like Nasser using 5g/wk well after retiring and seeing how that worked out for him.

Exactly what I was thinking

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2017, 01:35:08 PM »
My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)

some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai

3grams are you nuts, why would he be on that much gear? TRT 500mg max.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2017, 01:38:46 PM »
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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2017, 01:40:52 PM »
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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2017, 01:45:46 PM »
Exactly and she had some work done to look more fem when she began bodybuilding.

Always a nice women.

Agree she am an nice women.   ;D

But that Narwhal cl1t be punching low in them thar briefs.... #taffinapproved
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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2017, 02:13:34 PM »
3grams are you nuts, why would he be on that much gear? TRT 500mg max.


When did 500mg become trt? :D  It's meant to keep you in a normal heathy range not 4000ng/dl.

All these crazy doses has skewed peoples logic when looking at gear.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2017, 02:20:28 PM »
When did 500mg become trt? :D  It's meant to keep you in a normal heathy range not 4000ng/dl.

All these crazy doses has skewed peoples logic when looking at gear.

Seems like most big guys can maintain on bout 250 test per week

At least that's what I have gathered from.reading many gear forums

I plan to maintain on 250-300 deca once it's all said and done

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2017, 03:01:10 PM »
Seems like most big guys can maintain on bout 250 test per week

At least that's what I have gathered from.reading many gear forums

I plan to maintain on 250-300 deca once it's all said and done

What the fuck do you have to maintain?
You're smaller than the kid with a mustache in middle school.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2017, 04:21:00 PM »
What the fuck do you have to maintain?
You're smaller than the kid with a mustache in middle school.

Sure i am bigeroxic 😘

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2017, 05:51:37 PM »
Sure i am bigeroxic 😘

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2017, 06:21:55 PM »
I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month.  Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime.  Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance.  That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything.  So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that.  At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass.  The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low.  That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago].  That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all.  Smiley  Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170.  I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked.  I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.

Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is.  So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger].  As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass.  But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.

That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry.  It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was.  Nor is that size good for his health!  In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb.  I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE!  That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%.  But still, that would be big.  I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.

I can't know what Jay currently uses.  But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said.  I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not?  Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size?  After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2017, 06:35:56 PM »
contrary to what most "pros" claim, most don't come off after retirement. (Ronnie being a notable exception)

Hell, even Bob Chick is on a mild testosterone maintenance protocol.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #41 on: December 28, 2017, 06:50:27 PM »
I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month.  Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime.  Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance.  That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything.  So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that.  At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass.  The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low.  That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago].  That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all.  Smiley  Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170.  I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked.  I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.

Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is.  So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger].  As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass.  But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.

That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry.  It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was.  Nor is that size good for his health!  In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb.  I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE!  That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%.  But still, that would be big.  I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.

I can't know what Jay currently uses.  But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said.  I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not?  Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size?  After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.

Wes why are you plagiarizing Matt? He and a team of his lawyers will sue you for the aforementioned plagiarism of his long winded, never ending reply.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #42 on: December 28, 2017, 09:06:03 PM »
contrary to what most "pros" claim, most don't come off after retirement. (Ronnie being a notable exception)

Hell, even Bob Chick is on a mild testosterone maintenance protocol.

I don't know of any pros that claim to be off after they retire. I think they all acknowledge being on hormone replacement therapy. ( note HRT not just t r t. Meaning all hormones are controled. Testosterone growth hormone thyroid.. possibly insulin depending on the growth hormone dose and how well their body regulates blood glucose levels after years or decades growth hormone use... Being mindful of dht levels as well. )

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2017, 09:21:20 PM »
Why does Cutler dress like a high school kid? Also his chest is getting that droopy sausage tit look, he should drop 50 pounds and go for the health look.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2017, 09:37:53 PM »
Why does Cutler dress like a high school kid? Also his chest is getting that droopy sausage tit look, he should drop 50 pounds and go for the health look.

What you didn't buy his new shirt? ;)

 I wonder how he would look at 185 and what it would take to get down that much (maybe go off all gear, tons of cardio and circuits). Also I wonder if he would have loose skin from it.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2017, 09:44:45 PM »
What you didn't buy his new shirt? ;)

 I wonder how he would look at 185 and what it would take to get down that much (maybe go off all gear, tons of cardio and circuits). Also I wonder if he would have loose skin from it.
Horrendous style, especially those skinny sweat pants,  those are meant for physique guys like Buendia, and how does a guy have a full head of hair while competing and injecting tons of drugs, then loose all his hair now that he's retired/less drugs?

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2017, 09:52:23 PM »
Horrendous style, especially those skinny sweat pants,  those are meant for physique guys like Buendia, and how does a guy have a full head of hair while competing and injecting tons of drugs, then loose all his hair now that he's retired/less drugs?

What the fuc I hadn't even noticed those pants until you mentioned it

Dude is fucking regressing. If somebody told me tomorrow they had video of Jay cruising the parking lots of community colleges trying to hang out with whoever the hell hangs out in Community College parking lots, I would not be at all surprised

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2017, 10:07:41 PM »
I would say 200mg of test and 2iu growth, a liberal HRT. If Jay needs to boost his size he can easily do a mini cycle and gain 20lbs within days. He's not on "grams" anymore.

Lol

On the money you will always have the high dose followers who think its all about mgs and IUs and it is but to lesser degree, genetics and response play a huge part, guys with bad response find it hard to accept

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2017, 10:09:20 PM »
What the fuc I hadn't even noticed those pants until you mentioned it

Dude is fucking regressing. If somebody told me tomorrow they had video of Jay cruising the parking lots of community colleges trying to hang out with whoever the hell hangs out in Community College parking lots, I would not be at all surprised

Has the backward hat thing going in a lot of pics now too.


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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2017, 02:11:44 AM »
Has the backward hat thing going in a lot of pics now too.



Goodness... He's dressing like Justin beiber