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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2017, 02:16:41 AM »
I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month.  Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime.  Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance.  That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything.  So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that.  At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass.  The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low.  That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago].  That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all.  :)  Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170.  I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked.  I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.

Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is.  So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger].  As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass.  But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.

That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry.  It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was.  Nor is that size good for his health!  In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb.  I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE!  That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%.  But still, that would be big.  I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.

I can't know what Jay currently uses.  But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said.  I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not?  Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size?  After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2017, 02:24:50 AM »
What you didn't buy his new shirt? ;)

 I wonder how he would look at 185 and what it would take to get down that much (maybe go off all gear, tons of cardio and circuits). Also I wonder if he would have loose skin from it.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2017, 02:29:45 AM »
Jay trying to remain young at heart, missing Kerry most likely...

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2017, 02:32:57 AM »
Jay trying to remain young at heart, missing Kerry most likely...

Last videos I saw okay he had some smoking hot brunette chick living at his house. Prepared to carry I'd say that's an upgrade... Physically at least

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2017, 02:54:49 AM »
Jay looks like on 500 mg pharma test with 5 IU GH and peptides.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2017, 02:55:22 AM »
Jay trying to remain young at heart, missing Kerry most likely...

still missing sex?

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #56 on: December 29, 2017, 03:36:42 AM »
Last videos I saw okay he had some smoking hot brunette chick living at his house. Prepared to carry I'd say that's an upgrade... Physically at least

Kerry got nose job and bolt ons near the end, wasnt bad

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #57 on: December 29, 2017, 04:12:07 AM »
Kerry got nose job and bolt ons near the end, wasnt bad

They were likely for her new dude

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2017, 04:13:29 AM »
They were likely for her new dude

Good point.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2017, 04:50:43 AM »
I think he missed out on a lot of things during his younger years in pursuit of his BB career and now wants to go back and relive everything so he dresses like a young gym thug and looks pathetic. I wonder why he hasn’t sported the hipster look yet. What a douchebag

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2017, 04:58:01 AM »
Whatever he's taking he made the right choice and reduced it a ton from what it was. At least he has the sense and will power to do that it's just a shame he won't talk honestly about gear usage. I'd love to hear what he really was taking to look so insane for so many years but I don't see that happening for another ten years or so. The way things are going I see bodybuilders having to acknowledge the truth more and more to stay credible, thank fuck!

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2017, 05:00:25 AM »
No man should ever wear pants like that, that fad has got to go



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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2017, 05:32:41 AM »
I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month.  Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime.  Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance.  That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything.  So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that.  At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass.  The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low.  That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago].  That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all.  Smiley  Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170.  I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked.  I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.

Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is.  So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger].  As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass.  But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.

That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry.  It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was.  Nor is that size good for his health!  In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb.  I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE!  That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%.  But still, that would be big.  I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.

I can't know what Jay currently uses.  But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said.  I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not?  Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size?  After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2017, 05:43:38 AM »
I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month.  Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime.  Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance.  That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything.  So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that.  At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass.  The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low.  That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago].  That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all.  Smiley  Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170.  I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked.  I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.

Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is.  So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger].  As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass.  But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.

That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry.  It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was.  Nor is that size good for his health!  In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb.  I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE!  That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%.  But still, that would be big.  I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.

I can't know what Jay currently uses.  But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said.  I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not?  Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size?  After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.

With todays prohormones and pharmaceutical goodies, he cold run lowwer levels, also he would somewhat be on a maintain program as well a d no need to build, so that could also be done with lower levels.   Genetics and response to gear play a big role with people as well, we are all different and respond differently to certain drugs.  His receptors may be great and he may respond to 250mg of test or his receptors may be shit, and may need 1,500 to achieve alot less then he did 5, 10, 15 years ago.

Also as the clock turns we need more just to achive the same results.  So he may be taking what he did for his first show, and he looked great,  now he looks less but the same amount of gear won't come close to what it did for him years and year ago.  You know like have a beer, eventually you will need more beer to achieve that buzz.

Truth is only Jay knows, and the likelihood of us ever really knowing,  well let's just put it this way, I'm not holding my breath!
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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2017, 05:34:07 PM »
Would love to see you in some see through black leggings stud


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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2017, 11:28:30 PM »
i dont know what Jay takes... but some of us are hyper responders and dont take much but look like we do... just saying....plus genetics.....one person can get drunk off of one beer and other people have to drink a 12 pack to get drunk.... yes i know tolerance etc... thats the best way i can explain it
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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #66 on: December 30, 2017, 04:59:17 AM »
i dont know what Jay takes... but some of us are hyper responders and dont take much but look like we do... just saying....plus genetics.....one person can get drunk off of one beer and other people have to drink a 12 pack to get drunk.... yes i know tolerance etc... thats the best way i can explain it
I had one friend who competed on 25mg tren and 25mg eq eod. Looked great. Guessing he ran more before that judging by what he's told me but you can maintain/keep a very good physique on lower doses once you create one.

He also blows up incredibly fast using low moderate doses after looking like a normal person/being off for awhile so he def falls within the genetically gifted for response as well. Makes one jealous.