425lbs easy

[SF1900]

What this individual is doing is called "fooling around in the gym." A nonsense "exercise". These kids should be on a sensibly programmed Linear Progression of Low Bar Squats, Deadlifts, Flat Bench Presses and Power Cleans, and THAT'S IT.

[Thin Lizzy]

1. Olifts are overrated for field athletes

2. Why would I program a lowbar Squat for non-power lifter that’s a 6’41/2 252 tight end.

3. “That’s it”? You realize that sports, especially football is 90% COD, don’t you?

4. All bi lateral movements? You do realize that we don’t run on two legs, right?

I do like to split squat for running as it’s more specific than the traditional back squat. I just don’t see a reason to go crazy on it and risk injury. Besides the lumbar area, that’s a lot of pressure on that one knee joint.

Powerlifters do always seem to end up with waists wider than their shoulders. IMO, It’s because, to them, the number of plates on the bar is the be-all end-all and they don’t pay enough attention to muscle contractions. Their low rep protocol stresses the structure too much and eventually that structure breaks down.

[SF1900]

I do like to split squat for running as it’s more specific than the traditional back squat. I just don’t see a reason to go crazy on it and risk injury. Besides the lumbar area, that’s a lot of pressure on that one knee joint.


Powerlifters do always seem to end up with waists wider than their shoulders. IMO, It’s because, to them, the number of plates on the bar is the be-all end-all and they don’t pay enough attention to muscle contractions.

I don't squat or deadlift because of a past double inguinal hernia.

But, yes, it would seem likely that many retired powerlifters have wide waists.

Kazmaier has the same look

[SF1900]

Lets stop with all the tomfoolery, shenanigans, and ballyhoo.

Clearly, we need to hear Mr. Goodrum's, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, opinion on this matter.

In case some people are not familiar with Mr. Goodrum, I utilized arrows to point out his varied accomplishments.

[Hypertrophy]

I don't squat or deadlift because of a past double inguinal hernia.

But, yes, it would seem likely that many retired powerlifters have wide waists.

Kazmaier has the same look

As a hernia victim myself, done doing a sumo style deadlift, I avoid deadlifts  like the plague. As for squats, it just can't be logical that you can load your spine from above and not expect problems over time.

I was and still am a competitive bicycle racer. All the guys I used to compete against who got hung up on squats to increase leg power are no longer racing- many because of knee or back issues.  I have found leg presses with a bend no deeper than a right angle or slightly less work just fine for sprint power. As for deadlifts - all it did was aggravate my lower back. Since eliminating them  I feel great...

[Coach is Back!]

I do like to split squat for running as it’s more specific than the traditional back squat. I just don’t see a reason to go crazy on it and risk injury. Besides the lumbar area, that’s a lot of pressure on that one knee joint.

Those weights are not something done on the regular. But regardless, this is once per week with a rep scheme of no more than 5 in this case he finished with a 2 rep count for one set.


Powerlifters do always seem to end up with waists wider than their shoulders. IMO, It’s because, to them, the number of plates on the bar is the be-all end-all and they don’t pay enough attention to muscle contractions. Their low rep protocol stresses the structure too much and eventually that structure breaks down.

I've said this before. The NFL has been experiencing an increased number of injuries over the years primarily (and I'm not the only one who believes this) because the CBA only allows a certain amount of time with coaches, especially strength coaches. This puts the player at a disadvantage because in the off-season he either trains on his own or with a "personal trainer" that might not have worked with higher level athletes leaving them weak when it comes to the demands of their sport.

This is not a racist observation but something I see in the industry every offseason. With black athletes, there are very few that really don't prioritize the weight room. I get it, most are skill guys that work more on route running and speed (which in most cases is programmed incorrectly) and leaving them more susceptible to injury. The guy you see in my video thrives on the weight room, equally makes it a priority as well as fieldwork. There is no doubt in my mind that this kid is one of the strongest if not THE strongest TE in the NFL. Advantage him because of his strength. Gronk is fucked up almost every season just as an example.

[Thin Lizzy]

As a hernia victim myself, done doing a sumo style deadlift, I avoid deadlifts  like the plague. As for squats, it just can't be logical that you can load your spine from above and not expect problems over time.

I was and still am a competitive bicycle racer. All the guys I used to compete against who got hung up on squats to increase leg power are no longer racing- many because of knee or back issues.  I have found leg presses with a bend no deeper than a right angle or slightly less work just fine for sprint power. As for deadlifts - all it did was aggravate my lower back. Since eliminating them  I feel great...

The spine can withstand a lot of compression. It’s the shear stress that gets to you from rounding your back or arching too much. Most people simply use too much weight and it eventually catches up with them.

[Coach is Back!]

He’s doing a split squat, an exercise made very popular by strength and conditioning coach Mike Boyle. His logic is that it’s a much safer exercise than the standard back squat. However, the way it’s being done here with a tremendous amount of weight on the dudes’ back makes it no less safe if not more dangerous.

Personally, I like Mike, he's very smart guy and I was apart if his Strengthcoach site for about 7-8 years. But if it's not his way it's the highway. But IMO, he takes the safety aspect in the weightroom so far that it will cause injury on the field. Safety is a huge priority in my gym as well but not to the point were they will be injured on the field

[Thin Lizzy]

Personally, I like Mike, he's very smart guy and I was apart if his Strengthcoach site for about 7-8 years. But if it's not his way it's the highway. But IMO, he takes the safety aspect in the weightroom so far that it will cause injury on the field. Safety is a huge priority in my gym as well but not to the point were they will be injured on the field

From listening to him, he seems to work primarily with hockey players. Whereas you work with football players. The two would seem to require different protocols. A hockey shift is glycolitic  (30-40 secs) while football is more alactic (5-10). The latter would be better suited to higher intensity which is usually more dangerous.

Regarding Gronk, I don’t see how you can definitively prove that his injuries are a result of poor training. It is possible that they are the result of a very big, fast guy continually getting into high-speed collisions with other very big fast guys. One of those collisions is eventually going to end badly.

[The Seductor]

I don't squat or deadlift because of a past double inguinal hernia.

But, yes, it would seem likely that many retired powerlifters have wide waists.

Kazmaier has the same look

Excusitis. Prognosis is failure.

[residue]

What this individual is doing is called "fooling around in the gym." A nonsense "exercise". These kids should be on a sensibly programmed Linear Progression of Low Bar Squats, Deadlifts, Flat Bench Presses and Power Cleans, and THAT'S IT.

this is a joke right?

[The Seductor]

this is a joke right?

The split squats are a joke. Yes.

[Coach is Back!]

The split squats are a joke. Yes.

Can you explain this?

[The Seductor]

Can you explain this?

First, it is not a Squat. It is a lunge variation. The barbell's position in relation to the posterior chain here is all wrong. You could call it "fooling around in a gym", or, better yet, "doing dumb shit with weights."

[SF1900]

Serious question:

can you accomplish the same results without doing squats or that lunge-type movement in the video?

If you can, is it really worth it to put 450 pounds on your back? It just seems like a lot of broscience--you need to do X movement for Y results. With so much modern advancement in weight training, there has to be something safer. No?

[Coach is Back!]

First, it is not a Squat. It is a lunge variation. The barbell's position in relation to the posterior chain here is all wrong. You could call it "fooling around in a gym", or, better yet, "doing dumb shit with weights."

“The barbells Position in relation to the posterior chain”

What does that even mean?

[Dave D]

As a hernia victim myself, done doing a sumo style deadlift, I avoid deadlifts  like the plague. As for squats, it just can't be logical that you can load your spine from above and not expect problems over time.

I was and still am a competitive bicycle racer. All the guys I used to compete against who got hung up on squats to increase leg power are no longer racing- many because of knee or back issues.  I have found leg presses with a bend no deeper than a right angle or slightly less work just fine for sprint power. As for deadlifts - all it did was aggravate my lower back. Since eliminating them  I feel great...

The spine can withstand a lot of compression. It’s the shear stress that gets to you from rounding your back or arching too much. Most people simply use too much weight and it eventually catches up with them.

Guys serious question doesn't everyone end up injured whether they lift heavy, light or at all?  I know multiple people with back, knee and shoulder issues some from "exercising" others did nothing physical.

And as far as powerlifters with big waists isn't that more of a factor of the lifestyle than the actual lifts. Most PL don't train to look good they train to lift heavy (and many wouldn't be into looking "good" because its a different dedication).

[SF1900]

Guys serious question doesn't everyone end up injured whether they lift heavy, light or at all?  I know multiple people with back, knee and shoulder issues some from "exercising" others did nothing physical.

And as far as powerlifters with big waists isn't that more of a factor of the lifestyle than the actual lifts. Most PL don't train to look good they train to lift heavy (and many wouldn't be into looking "good" because its a different dedication).

Im guessing its a matter of degree. Ronnie Coleman vs. Lee Priest.

Sure, Lee Priest may have some joint pain, but Ronnie Coleman is undergoing like his 10th back surgery (or however many).

Again, a matter of degree.

[The Seductor]

“The barbells Position in relation to the posterior chain”

What does that even mean?

The diagram illustrates the proper line up of the barbell, the upper leg and the feet. This position produces maximal muscular recruitment of the posterior chain. The guy in video has the bar resting directly over the heel of his foot as he arches his back and braces his torso by holding on to the squat racks and pushing back. He is permanently damaging his lower vertebrae with each rep. Really stupid shit.

[Coach is Back!]

Serious question:

can you accomplish the same results without doing squats or that lunge-type movement in the video?

If you can, is it really worth it to put 450 pounds on your back? It just seems like a lot of broscience--you need to do X movement for Y results. With so much modern advancement in weight training, there has to be something safer. No?

We vary our single leg movements. We do lower body twice a week. For example, on day one (aside from our main lift) we will add a step up variation instead of a squat or lunge variation to avoid joint stacking.  On the second leg day, 3 days recovery, most of the time use one heavier unilateral movement as a main lift keeping the reps at 2/3. This is what was done yesterday. After field work warmups and core.

1A) Split Squat w/yoke bar 5x5, 3, 3, 3
1B) Clean pull - 4x3 @ 70%
1C) Corrective exercise in this case it was a banded Achilles stretch as an active recovery 4x:30ea

2A) Back Extension w/iso hold of 2 - 3x10
2B) Single Leg slideboard pull ins 3-0-1 tempo - 3x10
2C) Corrective exercise, in this case it was a TKE (terminal Knee Extension) w/band -3x20

[Coach is Back!]

The diagram illustrates the proper line up of the barbell, the upper leg and the feet. This position produces maximal muscular recruitment of the posterior chain. The guy in video has the bar resting directly over the heel of his foot as he arches his back and braces his torso by holding on to the squat racks and pushing back. He is permanently damaging his lower vertebrae with each rep. Really stupid shit.

That looks directly out of Starting Strength. You’re trying to compare a bilateral to a unilateral Squat. The mechanics will always be different

[Coach is Back!]

Serious question:

can you accomplish the same results without doing squats or that lunge-type movement in the video?

If you can, is it really worth it to put 450 pounds on your back? It just seems like a lot of broscience--you need to do X movement for Y results. With so much modern advancement in weight training, there has to be something safer. No?

Incidentally, that squat in the video is 70% of his 1RM.

[SF1900]

We vary our single leg movements. We do lower body twice a week. For example, on day one (aside from our main lift) we will add a step up variation instead of a squat or lunge variation to avoid joint stacking.  On the second leg day, 3 days recovery, most of the time use one heavier unilateral movement as a main lift keeping the reps at 2/3. This is what was done yesterday. After field work warmups and core.

1A) Split Squat w/yoke bar 5x5, 3, 3, 3
1B) Clean pull - 4x3 @ 70%
1C) Corrective exercise in this case it was a banded Achilles stretch as an active recovery 4x:30ea

2A) Back Extension w/iso hold of 2 - 3x10
2B) Single Leg slideboard pull ins 3-0-1 tempo - 3x10
2C) Corrective exercise, in this case it was a TKE (terminal Knee Extension) w/band -3x20

I don't know what any of that means, but you're the expert. Not me.

[Thin Lizzy]

Guys serious question doesn't everyone end up injured whether they lift heavy, light or at all?  I know multiple people with back, knee and shoulder issues some from "exercising" others did nothing physical.

And as far as powerlifters with big waists isn't that more of a factor of the lifestyle than the actual lifts. Most PL don't train to look good they train to lift heavy (and many wouldn't be into looking "good" because its a different dedication).

An occasional strain can happen, but the majority of injuries occur because of either poor form, using too much weight or both. If you work out sensibly there’s no reason to get all beat up.

You’re right about powerlifters. They train to lift heavy but after a while their bodies get to too beat up to do so. They usually end up giving up lifting. The bodybuilding rep range works the muscles without beating up the structure too much and as a result bodybuilders tend to keep a decent physique as they age.

[residue]

We vary our single leg movements. We do lower body twice a week. For example, on day one (aside from our main lift) we will add a step up variation instead of a squat or lunge variation to avoid joint stacking.  On the second leg day, 3 days recovery, most of the time use one heavier unilateral movement as a main lift keeping the reps at 2/3. This is what was done yesterday. After field work warmups and core.

1A) Split Squat w/yoke bar 5x5, 3, 3, 3
1B) Clean pull - 4x3 @ 70%
1C) Corrective exercise in this case it was a banded Achilles stretch as an active recovery 4x:30ea

2A) Back Extension w/iso hold of 2 - 3x10
2B) Single Leg slideboard pull ins 3-0-1 tempo - 3x10
2C) Corrective exercise, in this case it was a TKE (terminal Knee Extension) w/band -3x20

that's a lot like my college ruby program, you don't do a ghr or a nordic\reverse\Russian curl?