The test is optional but what would be the higher end dosage for a tren, dbol cycle with out using to much
I'm kinda thinking 600mg tren 59mg dbol a day would give awesome results do you think you would see more by going higher such a 1-1400mg tren and 100mg dbol I think at that dosage I may lose weight after a while. Maybe throw in 500mg test for shit and giggles 1350mg tren 900 test and a 100mg androl I think John o'reagan is said to use on clients
1350mg of Tren is 5x the strength of Test at the same dosage! I dont know how much you weigh and what your eating protocol is like, but that dosage works on a 290+ pound bodybuilder... well, I will say it works as desired... in other words, you they don't revert and loose size. I would say its just too high a dosage of Tren.
Not sure why you are even considering NOT running a Test base... even at a low dose of 600mg/week.
How long will the cycle be?
My recommendation for a 16 week protocol:
1-7: 100mg Anadrol and 80mg DBol ED
1-8: 750mg Test E Week (pin EOD)
1-8: 400mg Deca Week (pin EOD)
1-8: 600mg EQ Week (pin EOD)
9-16: 1100 Test E Week (pin EOD)
9-16: 900mg EQ Week (pin EOD)
9-16: Tren A 400mg Week (pin EOD)
19-20: 2000 HCG E3D
21: Clomid 50mg ED
22: Clomid 100mg ED
19-22: Species Nutrition TESTOLYZE
19-22: a good DHEA product at 100mg ED
IF you are taking HGH, dose it at 6-8u of PHARMA ED weeks 1-16 and drop to 2u weeks 19-22. Just a note, you need to be on this stuff for at least 6 months (using pharma) for ANY benefits in terms of muscle growth and new cellular generation. Hope you have the cash on-hand!
Taking HGH at the required doses with Lantus WILL NOT manage your FBG properly, let alone your insulin sensitivity throughout the day. You must dose the 8u of HGH spread out through the day and this requires use of additional insulins like Humalog (fast acting) at each meal, in conjunction with the basal insulin Lantus. I personally think Lantus is not good enough and use Tresiba instead. Tresiba is the only truely effective 24-hour basal insulin out there. And I can tell you, when I was taking 8u of Norditropin per day, my FBG was 145 until I started taking Tresibe. Lantus didnt do shit! On Trensiba, my FBG went down to 90-100 on 8u of pharma grade HGH.
So, you need to titrate (use medical titration) the Tresiba doses up to the effective dose. Start low AM/PM split and check FBG every morning until you are consistently 90-100. If you cant get there and your Tresiba doses reach 40u AM/40u PM then you must lower your HGH doses. Be careful man and know what it is you are stepping into!!!
Good luck with your protocol and stay healthy!
