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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2018, 04:41:54 PM »

Did anyone caliper him prior to this event?  Was the measurement any kind of record?  I wonder if Billy Smith was involved and if it might have taken place at a Gold's, maybe even at the Venice Gold's.  Somebody please help me answer these burning questions.

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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2018, 04:56:00 PM »

His abs got worse as he got older.

Lower lats had a weird look to them.

Lazy.

Wouldn't do deadlifts so no quality X-Mas tree, no deep lumbar definition, fat ass and weak hams most of the time.

Oh, and the calves are faker than fake.
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2018, 05:22:17 PM »

His abs got worse as he got older.

Lower lats had a weird look to them.

Lazy.

Wouldn't do deadlifts so no quality X-Mas tree, no deep lumbar definition, fat ass and weak hams most of the time.

Oh, and the calves are faker than fake.
He had a quality X-Mas tree. Always did. He wouldn't do heavy bent over barbell rows. And since he broke his neck, squats were out of the question. Questionable calves in his later competitive years.
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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2018, 05:40:07 PM »

Better than Heath.
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2018, 05:43:11 PM »

Everyone is better than Heath.
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« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2018, 05:48:11 PM »

Flex was ridiculous in those photos,very ruhlesque.Looked incredible to me.flex and Marcus are two guys I think should have won an Olympia on freakiness alone.
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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2018, 05:53:08 PM »

He was even better 2 weeks later at the Arnold. Start at 15:32

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZKVEemnJIM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZKVEemnJIM</a>
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« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2018, 06:06:18 PM »

He was even better 2 weeks later at the Arnold. Start at 15:32

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZKVEemnJIM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZKVEemnJIM</a>

Damn,never seen that.he looks amazing.
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« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2018, 06:54:53 PM »

Did anyone caliper him prior to this event?  Was the measurement any kind of record?  I wonder if Billy Smith was involved and if it might have taken place at a Gold's, maybe even at the Venice Gold's.  Somebody please help me answer these burning questions.

You nailed it.  Grin  I wonder if Jim Quinn was involved?  Huh
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« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2018, 08:27:00 PM »

Are you sure about that, Earl?  Both of us prefer Kev's physique to Ronnie's, but I always thought of you as someone who understood why Ronnie won - even if you disagree with some of those wins.  I don't think you are under the impression that Kev should have 6-9 Sandows, even though you think his physique is "better" [for all intents and purposes, aside from the Olympia stage] than the physiques of either Ronnie or Dorian.

Likewise, Flex Wheeler's shape and aesthetics were amazing - as he was a literal cartoon character come to life - but do you really feel that he had the muscularity, hardness, and overall conditioning necessary to beat Heath in any of his seven Mr. Olympia wins?  I would say that Phil is harder, leaner/more conditioned, as well as having more mass on his frame.  Flex was something like 5'11 and 220-lb, whereas Phil is, what, 250-lb at 5'9?  That is a considerable advantage in overall level of muscle mass for Phil, despite not being as shapely as Flex - and it's not like Phil is a slouch in the shape and roundness department either, despite having narrow clavicles [something which I think is amplified by his larger than average head size], and - of course - not being as shapely as Flex, as said above.

PS - while I have always understood the comments that Phil is narrow by pro bodybuilding or Mr. Olympia standards [despite his head size not often being mentioned as a contributing factor], I have never understood why people say that Kev was narrow.  On that note, I think part of the reason why Flex Wheeler looked wide was for the same reason why Phil looked a bit more narrow than he likely actually is - head size.  In the case of Flex Wheeler, I think his head is small, and makes him look wider.  Orville Burke definitely had a small head which made him look wide.

flex weighed way more than 220 in those pics, i'm not saying the 93 version that everybody overrates would beat phil, the late 90's ironman version of flex would win

phil is a small looking 250 if that's what he weighs and how much of that is in his gut? 

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« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2018, 08:30:15 PM »

Everyone is better than Heath.

Branch warren is better than Phil

Branch should have been mr O at least one time
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« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2018, 08:55:14 PM »

'93 or '98? 
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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2018, 09:22:22 PM »

Flex


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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2018, 11:43:06 PM »



Middleweight torso chest with heavy weight arms

A true ecto he is

With no steroids and no training this is a 510 skinny 150/155 pound guy max
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« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2018, 01:48:23 AM »

'93 or '98? 

With Gynecomastia that looked fucking horrible, Ronnie still thinks his best look was 1998, probably his worst year and lightest @ 248lbs.

FLEX LOOKED BETTER IN 1998 AND EVEN BETTER 1N 1999, BUT AT LEAST RONNIE FIXED THE GYNO NIPPLE.

I GUEST CHAD GOT HIM SOME ARIMIDEX TABS SO HE COULD REPEAT WITHOUT A BITCH TIT.
FLEX UNCROWNED 1998-99...END OF SUBJECT.
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« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2018, 01:55:35 AM »

Middleweight torso chest with heavy weight arms

That's not Heath...
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« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2018, 12:05:29 PM »

In my opinion, his hands on hips most muscular from that contest is still on of the best bbing pics of all time.
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« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2018, 01:03:37 PM »

He was even better 2 weeks later at the Arnold. Start at 15:32

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZKVEemnJIM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZKVEemnJIM</a>
The poor man's Shawn Ray, Jeff "Box" Long" was in that as well.
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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2018, 01:27:16 PM »

ye and he took enough roids and shit to fry both of his kidneys
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