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« on: January 27, 2018, 08:01:48 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2018, 08:54:17 AM »

Resulting from Yates’ retirement, Wheeler thought that 1998 was his year. He didn’t anticipate Ronnie owning everyone.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2018, 08:56:38 AM »

Resulting from Yates’ retirement, Wheeler thought that 1998 was his year. He didn’t anticipate Ronnie owning everyone.
Nobody did. But Flex should have done his homework. As he got older, he kinda had Sergio Oliva look to him.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2018, 08:57:09 AM »

Resulting from Yates’ retirement, Wheeler thought that 1998 was his year. He didn’t anticipate Ronnie owning everyone.

Wheeler was quoted as advising Ronnie to get serious about his drug use.



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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2018, 09:06:03 AM »

Wheeler was quoted as advising Ronnie to get serious about his drug use.



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I remember a few years ago Ronnie said that when he found out that Flex was using lots of “Vitamin G” (presumably Growth Hormone), he followed suit, and won the Olympia.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2018, 09:09:59 AM »

That was a couple weeks before his best condition ever at the Arnold.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2018, 09:17:10 AM »

Flex actually had a Grainy look to his physique. It's probably the only time I can remember him looking like that.


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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2018, 09:24:39 AM »

I still think that the 1993 Arnold was his best ever. He looked his best in the 216-218 range
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2018, 03:25:16 PM »

this is his best and most complete look and it would beat heath

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2018, 03:47:40 PM »

His rear latspread looked pretty good too.


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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2018, 05:54:27 PM »

I still think that the 1993 Arnold was his best ever. He looked his best in the 216-218 range

Exactly.  Dry as hell too!  He looked a bit water logged in 1998.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2018, 12:36:52 AM »

too small in 93 to do any damage after 95

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2018, 09:46:50 AM »

Resulting from Yates’ retirement, Wheeler thought that 1998 was his year. He didn’t anticipate Ronnie owning everyone.

Many thought 1998 was their year after Dorian retired. Guys like Levrone, Ray, El Sonbaty, Wheeler, etc. No one predicted Coleman would win. People would have put Cormier or Dillet over Coleman at that point.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2018, 10:06:38 AM »

Exactly.  Dry as hell too!  He looked a bit water logged in 1998.

'93 Arnold...




incredible dry.clean look'lines'looks like muscle wrapped to bone,and 'naturally'lol filled muscle 'water/carb'peak look,after 96-up he was just cartoonish filled delts/arms that looked full relaxed and lost all sharpness/detail..
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2018, 11:30:50 AM »

he's huge
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2018, 12:05:03 PM »

Was this before or after the ninjas?

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2018, 01:56:43 PM »

his best look was 93, he never got his hamstrings glutes dry again as he went up in weight
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2018, 08:20:35 AM »

Was this before or after the ninjas?

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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2018, 10:35:43 AM »

Exactly.  Dry as hell too!  He looked a bit water logged in 1998.

'93 Arnold...





Did anyone caliper him prior to this event?  Was the measurement any kind of record?  I wonder if Billy Smith was involved and if it might have taken place at a Gold's, maybe even at the Venice Gold's.  Somebody please help me answer these burning questions.
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2018, 12:15:24 PM »

Exactly.  Dry as hell too!  He looked a bit water logged in 1998.

'93 Arnold...





His kidneys took the punch that year .


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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2018, 06:31:02 AM »

uncrowned Mr Olympia
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2018, 06:32:15 AM »

uncrowned Mr Olympia

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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2018, 06:53:45 AM »

this is his best and most complete look and it would beat heath

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Are you sure about that, Earl?  Both of us prefer Kev's physique to Ronnie's, but I always thought of you as someone who understood why Ronnie won - even if you disagree with some of those wins.  I don't think you are under the impression that Kev should have 6-9 Sandows, even though you think his physique is "better" [for all intents and purposes, aside from the Olympia stage] than the physiques of either Ronnie or Dorian.

Likewise, Flex Wheeler's shape and aesthetics were amazing - as he was a literal cartoon character come to life - but do you really feel that he had the muscularity, hardness, and overall conditioning necessary to beat Heath in any of his seven Mr. Olympia wins?  I would say that Phil is harder, leaner/more conditioned, as well as having more mass on his frame.  Flex was something like 5'11 and 220-lb, whereas Phil is, what, 250-lb at 5'9?  That is a considerable advantage in overall level of muscle mass for Phil, despite not being as shapely as Flex - and it's not like Phil is a slouch in the shape and roundness department either, despite having narrow clavicles [something which I think is amplified by his larger than average head size], and - of course - not being as shapely as Flex, as said above.

PS - while I have always understood the comments that Phil is narrow by pro bodybuilding or Mr. Olympia standards [despite his head size not often being mentioned as a contributing factor], I have never understood why people say that Kev was narrow.  On that note, I think part of the reason why Flex Wheeler looked wide was for the same reason why Phil looked a bit more narrow than he likely actually is - head size.  In the case of Flex Wheeler, I think his head is small, and makes him look wider.  Orville Burke definitely had a small head which made him look wide.
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2018, 07:07:12 AM »

uncrowned Mr Olympia

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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2018, 08:54:38 AM »

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