It's black history month again so it begs the question..........

[DooM_]

Would any of these people be on the top 10 list of black history or is this more of the "obscure shit" that I mentioned earlier in this thread?

nothing groundbreaking there

[Pray_4_War]

I came into this trying to find the truth but at this point it's not looking good for the concept of "black history".

[werewolf operative]

OK, I've updated the list and been extremely kind by including Vince's absurd slave theory as well as civil rights activists and entertainers.  I left burrito boy on the list because it's funny.

Can anyone add to this list in a real and meaningful way?  I don't want to see a list of alleged black inventors without an accurate list of what they invented with some supporting evidence.  Also, don't use any nonsensical theories like the iPhone would never have existed without black people because Apple had a black janitor and a black security guard.  Give me something real that is supported by hard evidence.  Something that could be considered historic in the traditional definition of the word.

Lonnie G. Johnson should be added, he invented the super soaker.




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Johnson_(inventor)

[Thin Lizzy]

Not saying its just the White man's fault. In history there are winners and there are losers.  The winners write the history books and control the public perception.

My point is there is plenty to celebrate about my people. Appreciating the African American contributions to America is not for everyone.

African Americans dont need to go back to Africa as America is more our mother country than Africa. During slavery days they would not allow too many slaves from the same country's to go to the same planatations so they could not communicate and would be easier to control. Through time the slaves learned english and created their own creole culture.

At any rate my posts were not to make excuses or bash anyone. I was merely trying to share my viewpoints and the things I have learned.

Your argument is a common one. Had X policy not been instituted or had Y not happened, the results would’ve been different. The problem is you can’t prove that. So, it is just excuse making.

With regard to the most violent places in the world, at the top of the list would be black inner cities, and African-Americans are far from being the poorest people in the world.


For this shit to be happening 2018 after eight years of a black president and a black Justice Department is a fucking embarrassment to humanity and should be condemned not celebrated for a whole month. But you are free to keep believing that had history been different, ghetto rats would be Nobel laureates


Baltimore has now had 343 homicides in 2017, sets record for killings per capita - Baltimore Sun

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-per-capita-homicides-20171227-story.html

With two fatal shootings Tuesday night, the recent reclassification of a decades-old shooting as a killing and another homicide Wednesday evening, Baltimore has hit 343 homicides in 2017, and a new record for killings per capita.

The homicide rate for 2017 is now 55.8 killings per 100,000 people. The previous record was 55.35 per 100,000 in 2015. The city suffered 344 homicides that year, but had thousands more residents

[SF1900]

Would any of these people be on the top 10 list of black history or is this more of the "obscure shit" that I mentioned earlier in this thread?

Now you're moving the goal posts.

You stated, "Can anyone add to this list in a real and meaningful way?  I don't want to see a list of alleged black inventors without an accurate list of what they invented with some supporting evidence." You never stated that it had to make a top 10 list.

Id say refining cataract surgery and developing a control unit for the pacemaker to be meaningful interventions. And I bet the people with eye and heart diseases would agree.

But you never provided a framework for what you meant by "meaningful," except when you said it had to be make the top 10 list. I am not too sure who decides what inventions make the top 10 list. Provide that framework.

[illuminati]

Now you're moving the goal posts.

You stated, "Can anyone add to this list in a real and meaningful way?  I don't want to see a list of alleged black inventors without an accurate list of what they invented with some supporting evidence." You never stated that it had to make a top 10 list.

Id say refining cataract surgery and developing a control unit for the pacemaker to be meaningful interventions. And I bet the people with eye and heart diseases would agree.

But you never provided a framework for what you meant by "meaningful," except when you said it had to be make the top 10 list. I am not too sure who decides what inventions make the top 10 list. Provide that framework.

If you say so
The 2 greatest ever life / world changing inventions -
Errrr You mean refinements to already existing inventions.

Close but No Cigar.

[The Scott]

Not having peanut butter wouldn't bother me one bit.  Having stated the obvious it is also obvious that someone else would've come along and created the stuff.  I'm not one to belittle another person's creations but neither will I make a mountain out of a peanut butter hill.

Damn.  I am good, huh?    Not nearly as good as Kahn or John, but I try, LOL! 

[TheGrinch]

um.... there is no such device as a "Laserphaco Probe"


FAKE NEWS invented to make dindu's seem valid

[Ted SuperSet]

Lonnie G. Johnson should be added, he invented the super soaker.




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Johnson_(inventor)

God bless him!

[Pray_4_War]

Now you're moving the goal posts.

You stated, "Can anyone add to this list in a real and meaningful way?  I don't want to see a list of alleged black inventors without an accurate list of what they invented with some supporting evidence." You never stated that it had to make a top 10 list.

Id say refining cataract surgery and developing a control unit for the pacemaker to be meaningful interventions. And I bet the people with eye and heart diseases would agree.

But you never provided a framework for what you meant by "meaningful," except when you said it had to be make the top 10 list. I am not too sure who decides what inventions make the top 10 list. Provide that framework.

Not moving the goal posts at all.  Did you read the thread or just that one post?

The point of having a top 10 list is to list the 10 most important pieces of black history.  The best of the best.  None of the stuff you posted would make that list.

You got half of the request right because you added some supporting evidence.  The problem is, your list is still flimsy.

[Pray_4_War]

Your argument is a common one. Had X policy not been instituted or had Y not happened, the results would’ve been different. The problem is you can’t prove that. So, it is just excuse making.

Errrr You mean refinements to already existing inventions.

Close but No Cigar.

These two posts are in line with what I'm thinking.  They do a good job of addressing most of the replies that I've gotten.  Nobody has really come in here and hit us with something mind blowing.

It's mostly excuses, extrapolation, and speculation.

I'm sorry people, at this point I feel safe in saying that "Black History Month" is pretty much a sham.  There just isn't a lot there to celebrate.  A half black President, civil rights agitators, artists, entertainers and athletes, and some inventors that contributed small components of larger innovations.  Kinda flimsy if you ask me.

[Fortress]

Chocolates as a collective aren’t good for much. They can be directed in hard labour, I guess.

[Kwon]

Chocolates as a collective aren’t good for much. They can be directed in hard labour, I guess.

[Randomum]

Your argument is a common one. Had X policy not been instituted or had Y not happened, the results would’ve been different. The problem is you can’t prove that. So, it is just excuse making.

With regard to the most violent places in the world, at the top of the list would be black inner cities, and African-Americans are far from being the poorest people in the world.


For this shit to be happening 2018 after eight years of a black president and a black Justice Department is a fucking embarrassment to humanity and should be condemned not celebrated for a whole month. But you are free to keep believing that had history been different, ghetto rats would be Nobel laureates


Baltimore has now had 343 homicides in 2017, sets record for killings per capita - Baltimore Sun

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-per-capita-homicides-20171227-story.html

With two fatal shootings Tuesday night, the recent reclassification of a decades-old shooting as a killing and another homicide Wednesday evening, Baltimore has hit 343 homicides in 2017, and a new record for killings per capita.

The homicide rate for 2017 is now 55.8 killings per 100,000 people. The previous record was 55.35 per 100,000 in 2015. The city suffered 344 homicides that year, but had thousands more residents

My argument is x happened and y is the result, that simple.

In regards to most violent places in the world I stated wealth inequality not level of poverty is the issue. More about the intersection of social caste systems, social mobility, and the frustration that comes to the disenfranchised groups who are negatively affected.

Again the killings and violent crime is a symptom of the problem not the problem.

[Griffith]

My argument is x happened and y is the result, that simple.

In regards to most violent places in the world I stated wealth inequality not level of poverty is the issue. More about the intersection of social caste systems, social mobility, and the frustration that comes to the disenfranchised groups who are negatively affected.

Again the killings and violent crime is a symptom of the problem not the problem.

There is no excuse for murder and rape in any society under any circumstances.

Torturing people for hours, including children and raping family members in front of family and then murdering them...there is no justification at all for this behaviour.

[werewolf operative]

[Kwon]

[IRON CROSS]

If White men are so bad why don't they move back to Africa  They would be welcomed with open arms and have a chance to make Africa great again all on their own 

>>> Liberia <<<

 

[illuminati]

My argument is x happened and y is the result, that simple.

In regards to most violent places in the world I stated wealth inequality not level of poverty is the issue. More about the intersection of social caste systems, social mobility, and the frustration that comes to the disenfranchised groups who are negatively affected.

Again the killings and violent crime is a symptom of the problem not the problem.

Oh dear Another Black Man who Cannot deal with the facts going on all around him 
Fact everywhere there is a large population of a Blacks there are Gangs Drugs & Shootings
The area turns into a hell hole & decent people move out,
Only it’s not the blacks fault is it Oh No Never 
Excuses excuses excuses

[Thin Lizzy]

Oh dear Another Black Man who Cannot deal with the facts going on all around him  
Fact everywhere there is a large population of a Blacks there are Gangs Drugs & Shootings
The area turns into a hell hole & decent people move out,
Only it’s not the blacks fault is it Oh No Never  
Excuses excuses excuses

All of these well-thought-out arguments that emanate from sociology departments of liberal arts colleges. Yet they can’t even entertain the most obvious explanation, that, as a group, blacks are just less civilized than whites.

Few would contest that the reason that blacks dominate sports like sprinting is largely genetic, but they can’t accept that genetics might play a part in blacks’ lack of civility.

Of course, they can’t really entertain this possibility lest they be labeled a racist or, in the case of blacks, admit inferiority. So they have to come up with excuse after excuse invariably involving some sort of victimhood. However, Dr. King said that “We shall overcome.”  These motherfuckers never overcome anything!

[TheGrinch]

https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Make-Black-Kids-Angry/dp/1508585024







https://www.minds.com/ColinFlaherty



America's most dangerous city has a new chief of police and a new plan to reduce crime: Blame cops and white racism.

Hmmm ... wonder how that is going to work out?


https://www.minds.com/api/v1/media/809472794449100800/play

[Thin Lizzy]

 

1. There are many great black inventors just google them. The large proportion of white inventors when compared to white inventors can be explained by the same situation in art for white women. How come 99.99% of artists pre-1900 are all white males? Because of gender dynamics which were in effect in every aspect of life. Women just were not able to participate in the art world as it was shunned by males. In the same situation African Americans were not included in the same way due to culture/social caste systems etc.

I’m not going to parse that entire missive as that would mean I am insane, but I just wanna destroy this one to point out the typical liberal leftist arguing technique of taking a bit of truth and then drawing a false conclusion. That there was discrimination against women is why there isn’t a 50/50 split among men and women artists.

However, from the 60s on women have had ample opportunities to start bands, make music and create great art. How many female supergroups are there? None. In fact, 99.99% of all great bands are 100% male. So it’s not the discrimination. It’s that men are better at making great music than women. You’re seeing the same thing in Silicon Valley now. They’re trying so hard to have equality in the more technical positions but it’s just not working. And these are liberal minded companies.

[TheGrinch]

I’m not going to parse that entire missive as that would mean I am insane, but I just wanna destroy this one to point out the typical liberal leftist arguing technique of taking a bit of truth and then drawing a false conclusion. That there was discrimination against women is why there isn’t a 50/50 split among men and women artists.

However, from the 60s on women have had ample opportunities to start bands, make music and create great art. How many female supergroups are there? None. In fact, 99.99% of all great bands are 100% male. So it’s not the discrimination. It’s that men are better at making great music than women. You’re seeing the same thing in Silicon Valley now. They’re trying so hard to have equality in the more technical positions but it’s just not working. And these are liberal minded companies.

Love how "we're all equal" but at the same time.. we should "celebrate our differences/diversity"


WTF???

[Zillotch]

men are better at

men r better at everything – every single thing. women r human incubators, and thats it.

[chess315]

Lonnie G. Johnson should be added, he invented the super soaker.




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Johnson_(inventor)

amen