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Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« on: February 17, 2018, 05:05:46 AM »


BY Michael Gauthier | Posted on February 16, 2018

Waymo recently declared victory in its legal battle with Uber and the company now appears ready to deliver the knockout blow.

Bloomberg reports the Alphabet-owned company has become the first business in the United States to be granted permission to launch a commercial ride-hailing service without a human driver. The publication says Waymo received the green-light from the Arizona Department of Transportation last month and the decision allows paying customers to use Waymo’s fleet of fully-autonomous Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid minivans.

A Waymo spokesman confirmed the commercial service will be launched in the Phoenix area later this year. Little is known about the service but Waymo ordered an additional 500 minivans last year and announced plans to buy thousands more in January.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/02/arizona-approves-waymos-fully-autonomous-ride-hailing-service/

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I didn't think this would be happening this soon.  I'm not sure I would feel comfortable riding in this van on the freeway.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2018, 06:11:45 AM »
People will die

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2018, 06:49:47 AM »
trusting a vehicle with the software written by Gooks?  haa haaa no thanks
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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2018, 06:59:43 AM »
Why do self-driving cars need a steering wheel?

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2018, 07:47:38 AM »
Why do self-driving cars need a steering wheel?

They don't.  This is GM's new self driving car.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2018, 07:56:14 AM »
People will die

X2. I mean, we all do, but I believe it will be at a higher statistically significant rate.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2018, 09:25:00 AM »
Why do self-driving cars need a steering wheel?

To give you something to grab at while you head directly into oncoming traffic, screaming....
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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2018, 09:50:43 AM »
Looks cool.... but makes me wonder, does this design approach inspire more - or less - confidence in the car's abilities?

On the one hand, leaving a wheel behind to tug at in emergencies (if that's even the point) might make some feel more comfortable.

But does the complete absence of even the suggestion of possible human override indicate the manufacturers believe the machine to be flawless in its execution..?

And did I miss the announcement where they'd solved the whole ethics minefield?  Questions such as: to preserve the vehicle occupants would it divert into a crowd of people?  Or vice-versa?

Hmmm.....


They don't.  This is GM's new self driving car.


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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2018, 09:53:38 AM »
Would def never ride in one of these especially without a wheel to grab.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2018, 10:02:39 AM »
One sufficiently bloody crash and the driverless thing will have a hard time recovering.  And if it works flawlessly there are enough competing interests with enough money at stake to engineer a crash, just for the 'behold their folly' press.

Jumping both feet in to the johnny-cab game seems like a brash way to bring this technology public. 

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2018, 10:45:38 AM »
One sufficiently bloody crash and the driverless thing will have a hard time recovering.  And if it works flawlessly there are enough competing interests with enough money at stake to engineer a crash, just for the 'behold their folly' press.

Jumping both feet in to the johnny-cab game seems like a brash way to bring this technology public. 

Excellent reference  8)

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2018, 06:38:38 AM »
See, look what happened to Johnny!  QED.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2018, 06:47:02 AM »
See, look what happened to Johnny!  QED.
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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2018, 06:54:35 AM »
AZ is a test subject for this stuff, last year someone in tempe, az got killed by one - total accident

i see the self the driving Volvo teams out in full force daily.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2018, 07:03:37 AM »
I was gonna post a super big thingy about intelligence and Getbig.  ;D

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2018, 08:04:41 AM »
Im surprised these corporations are so eager to jump on this, if only because it places the liability solely on the parent company. 

Ordinarily, any crash could be laid at the feet of the driver but if one of these crashes into a schoolbus and kills 60 gradeschool children, there's nobody to blame but Google. 

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2018, 08:40:14 AM »
Drivers were the stupid guinea pigs for this technology which will replace them.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2018, 08:50:25 AM »
Humans were the stupid guinea pigs for this technology which will replace them.

exactly right 

all technology is here for the sole purpose of controlling humanity for the duration of its short existence... humans r to be reverse engineered in every way – fodder, used to educate the very instruments of their own demise. man is to be effectively stolen, extracted and then terminated - their ultimate tard contribution – death.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2018, 08:55:43 AM »
Im surprised these corporations are so eager to jump on this, if only because it places the liability solely on the parent company. 

lol.. there is none.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2018, 10:33:14 AM »
AZ is a test subject for this stuff, last year someone in tempe, az got killed by one - total accident

i see the self the driving Volvo teams out in full force daily.

Presumably you're witnessing slower, more inner-city/urban style driving then?  I suppose the stuff around 20-40mph is one thing, but faster than that...?  Sheesh, you'd need faith in the code, etc.

Gotta Google some of this, as I'm wondering now about emergency stops due to jay-walking, for example...  :P
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2018, 10:50:10 AM »
Presumably you're witnessing slower, more inner-city/urban style driving then?  I suppose the stuff around 20-40mph is one thing, but faster than that...?  Sheesh, you'd need faith in the code, etc.

Gotta Google some of this, as I'm wondering now about emergency stops due to jay-walking, for example...  :P

Yeah, well.  That's life in the Big City.


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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2018, 03:08:37 PM »
Presumably you're witnessing slower, more inner-city/urban style driving then?  I suppose the stuff around 20-40mph is one thing, but faster than that...?  Sheesh, you'd need faith in the code, etc.

Gotta Google some of this, as I'm wondering now about emergency stops due to jay-walking, for example...  :P


so far, little problems at all. kind of cool as a gearhead myself to see the random ass cars on the road.

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Re: Arizona Approves Fully-Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2018, 05:43:54 PM »
Moral dilemma.

An autonomous vehicle is going to hit a child who runs out onto a street. The vehicle is going too fast to avoid hitting the child unless it drives off a cliff with it's passenger.

Which choice does the vehicle make?
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2018, 01:58:30 AM »
Moral dilemma.

An autonomous vehicle is going to hit a child who runs out onto a street. The vehicle is going too fast to avoid hitting the child unless it drives off a cliff with it's passenger.

Which choice does the vehicle make?

depends how big the passengers tits are...