† Billy Graham, 'America's Pastor' And Noted Televangelist, Dead At 99 †

[LurkerNoMore]

When I'm in Fla in Aug I would really like to meet you. You talk A LOT of shit from a distance. But as it stands, you're still uninformed and yes, it can be considered a religion. But then again, I'm arguing with an atheist liberal who's never got it right.

You are proof that simply breathing oxygen must be an autonomous reflex.  You can't be that dumb and still be capable of sustaining basic life functions on your own with that one brain cell.

I thought your claim that there was scientific evidence that prayer works was the dumbest thing you ever said....  I guess not.  Then again, what kind of religion could it be if your God saw fit to make a whining manlet with such a vast level of stupidity?  What did you do to piss him off?  Or is this just a test for you?

[LurkerNoMore]

Science? 

Technology.   Didn't you learn anything from Blade Runner?  LOL

[Zillotch]

Science? 

satan

[Coach is Back!]

You are proof that simply breathing oxygen must be an autonomous reflex.  You can't be that dumb and still be capable of sustaining basic life functions on your own with that one brain cell.

I thought your claim that there was scientific evidence that prayer works was the dumbest thing you ever said....  I guess not.  Then again, what kind of religion could it be if your God saw fit to make a whining manlet with such a vast level of stupidity?  What did you do to piss him off?  Or is this just a test for you?

Never said there scientific evidence, this is where faith comes in. So far you’ve only came with name calling, junior. And yes, tested by the Devil everyday...like now

[Zillotch]

faith

no

all of reality demonstrates a creator

[LurkerNoMore]

Never said there scientific evidence, this is where faith comes in. So far you’ve only came with name calling, junior. And yes, tested by the Devil everyday...like now

Bullshit.  Don't back pedal now.  You got your ass handed to you with that statement. 

Doesn't matter though.  At least for you.  Fake Christians don't mean shit in the long run.  More worm food.

[Agnostic007]

Bullshit.  Don't back pedal now.  You got your ass handed to you with that statement.  

Doesn't matter though.  At least for you.  Fake Christians don't mean shit in the long run.  More worm food.

The bible teaches Many are called but few are chosen Matt 22:13  and the Sheep and the Goats Matt 25:31-46

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

And people like Coach think they have a shot   Coach and most professed Christians are goats.. but the thing is, not one single goat knows or thinks they are a goat. So if the bible is true, the jokes on them

[LurkerNoMore]

Coach started back in 2013 that there was documented proof of prayer working.

1800's studies? K. There's also documented proof that prayer does work. When I get to a computer tomorrow, I can post a few.

Then a couple of years ago, he was trying to sound smart and more convincing......





(pause for a minute to finishing laughing)




... he claimed there was scientific proof that prayer worked.   




Obviously, prayer certainly hasn't worked out very well for him.  God must have a strange sense of humor it seems or else God has made Coach a very special example of what happens when people displease him and incur his wrath.  Of course, God is not without grace it seems and has made Coach so stupid that he doesn't realize God is punishing him.

[Agnostic007]

Coach started back in 2013 that there was documented proof of prayer working.

Then a couple of years ago, he was trying to sound smart and more convincing......





(pause for a minute to finishing laughing)




... he claimed there was scientific proof that prayer worked.   




Obviously, prayer certainly hasn't worked out very well for him.  God must have a strange sense of humor it seems or else God has made Coach a very special example of what happens when people displease him and incur his wrath.  Of course, God is not without grace it seems and has made Coach so stupid that he doesn't realize God is punishing him.

There have been studies or at least a study where the results of prayer regarding recovery seemed to have a positive impact. This can be considered a placebo effect but a study does exist inferring it helps. Now I think you and I can agree there is no evidence that a spiritual entity is answering those prayers.   

[Parker]

10 pages of arguing about God, religion, instead of 10 pages about the man's life. Well, this is Getbig, and a bodybuilding board.

[Coach is Back!]

10 pages of arguing about God, religion, instead of 10 pages about the man's life. Well, this is Getbig, and a bodybuilding board.

Well, it goes hand in hand. The problem is the atheists on here dont even believe in the existence of Jesus even though there’s a mountain of evidence that shows otherwise. As far as Billy Graham, how many atheists in this thread were not just happy that he died, but actually made fun of it? Only the atheists would do this. You have to ask yourself why.

[Coach is Back!]

Coach started back in 2013 that there was documented proof of prayer working.

Then a couple of years ago, he was trying to sound smart and more convincing......





(pause for a minute to finishing laughing)




... he claimed there was scientific proof that prayer worked.   




Obviously, prayer certainly hasn't worked out very well for him.  God must have a strange sense of humor it seems or else God has made Coach a very special example of what happens when people displease him and incur his wrath.  Of course, God is not without grace it seems and has made Coach so stupid that he doesn't realize God is punishing him.

And there is still documented proof. Where did I say “scientific” proof? Numbnuts.

[Agnostic007]

Well, it goes hand in hand. The problem is the atheists on here dont even believe in the existence of Jesus even though there’s a mountain of evidence that shows otherwise. As far as Billy Graham, how many atheists in this thread were not just happy that he died, but actually made fun of it? Only the atheists would do this. You have to ask yourself why.

love to hear the mountain of evidence

[Coach is Back!]

Coach started back in 2013 that there was documented proof of prayer working.

Then a couple of years ago, he was trying to sound smart and more convincing......





(pause for a minute to finishing laughing)




... he claimed there was scientific proof that prayer worked.   




Obviously, prayer certainly hasn't worked out very well for him.  God must have a strange sense of humor it seems or else God has made Coach a very special example of what happens when people displease him and incur his wrath.  Of course, God is not without grace it seems and has made Coach so stupid that he doesn't realize God is punishing him.

Have to say that you are making strides by capitalizing “God”

[Coach is Back!]

love to hear the mountain of evidence

Would it make a difference? Go back about 15 years in my posts.

[Agnostic007]

Would it make a difference? Go back about 15 years in my posts.

so no?

[Agnostic007]

Would it make a difference? Go back about 15 years in my posts.

The main reason I went from Christianity to Agnostic is because I am interested in evidence. If you have a mountain of it, I'd like to know about it

[Coach is Back!]

The main reason I went from Christianity to Agnostic is because I am interested in evidence. If you have a mountain of it, I'd like to know about it

You won’t, but you can start with the The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. The audio is better but you won’t take 10hrs out of your life to watch, read or listen so why bother.

[Agnostic007]

You won’t, but you can start with the The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. The audio is better but you won’t take 10hrs out of your life to watch, read or listen so why bother.

I've read that probably twice. And Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.  More than a Carpenter as well.

[Agnostic007]

Do you have a mountain of evidence or a list of christian apologist books? There is a difference

[Agnostic007]

I was a died in the wool christian growing up. Even gave sermons on occasion as a guest at my local 1st Baptist Church. Would drive my friends nuts because on Sunday they wanted to be at the lake, I wanted them to be at church. In my 30's I read a list of Christian books with the idea of bolstering my faith with the evidence. But my 30 year old brain reading  the books took a different view than my 15 year old brain. So eventually, after about a year of reading books supporting Christianity, I read opposing views. Did you even know there was a rebuttal to Evidence that Demands a Verdict, called The Jury is In? The authors took all the "evidence and claims" McDowell had provided, and offered refutations. Interesting stuff   

[Coach is Back!]

I've read that probably twice. And Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.  More than a Carpenter as well.

I don’t think you have. If you did you would know that I the first chapter, as a non-believer and a journalist with a legal background he broke the evidence down by Examining the record first, eyewitness evidence, documentary evidence, corroborated evidence, scientific and rebuttal evidence. That’s the first chapter

[The Scott]

The truth is most people are just that.  People.  The problem is leadership.  Most pastors, priests and the like fleece the flock rather than feed it.  As for non belief being a "religion"?  It's nothing more than a belief (sounds like "faith" to me) that there is nothing awaiting us.  No God.  No Jesus.  No fucktard allah and hoMohammed.  No Buddha.  No turtles all the way down. Nothing.

We Atheists can be even bigger assholes than others because, as the joke goes, how do you know who the Atheist is in a crowd?  Don't worry, they'll tell you.  Many of us whine like pussies when mention is made of the fact that many of our laws are based on Judeo-Christian guidelines.  Get over it, kids.  You'd think some of us were vampires because we can't go past a cross without getting "offended".  Those same atheists will not say a fucking word against a crescent moon or a fat Buddah.  Go figger.  Pussies, I  tell ya.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I suggest you throw them straight up so that they can fall back on top of your dumb ass.  In like fashion, let he who is without faith, STFU.  Let he who has faith remain silent in word but in living verify that faith.   Did not the Nazarene implore that anything you do in his name, do so in silence.  Your reward is from the father and not in the form of the adulation of men.   Hollyweirdos are all for the latter.  They even have awards shows to kiss each others ass.

In closing, keep this in mind.  None of us truly knows what is waiting for us, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  If not, the consider this. Some folk believe in Karma.  I rarely hear atheists make fun of that belief.  That's because most of us are assholists that only get their hackles up where a deity is concerned.   If I were  to believe in anything it would be in the goodness of the Nazarene.  In truth, one can recognize that without believing he was He.

Most atheists refuse to do so.  I am not them.  I am an Atheist. 

[Coach is Back!]

The truth is most people are just that.  People.  The problem is leadership.  Most pastors, priests and the like fleece the flock rather than feed it.  As for non belief being a "religion"?  It's nothing more than a belief (sounds like "faith" to me) that there is nothing awaiting us.  No God.  No Jesus.  No fucktard allah and hoMohammed.  No Buddha.  No turtles all the way down. Nothing.

We Atheists can be even bigger assholes than others because, as the joke goes, how do you know who the Atheist is in a crowd?  Don't worry, they'll tell you.  Many of us whine like pussies when mention is made of the fact that many of our laws are based on Judeo-Christian guidelines.  Get over it, kids.  You'd think some of us were vampires because we can't go past a cross without getting "offended".  Those same atheists will not say a fucking word against a crescent moon or a fat Buddah.  Go figger.  Pussies, I  tell ya.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I suggest you throw them straight up so that they can fall back on top of your dumb ass.  In like fashion, let he who is without faith, STFU.  Let he who has faith remain silent in word but in living verify that faith.   Did not the Nazarene implore that anything you do in his name, do so in silence.  Your reward is from the father and not in the form of the adulation of men.   Hollyweirdos are all for the latter.  They even have awards shows to kiss each others ass.

In closing, keep this in mind.  None of us truly knows what is waiting for us, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  If not, the consider this. Some folk believe in Karma.  I rarely hear atheists make fun of that belief.  That's because most of us are assholists that only get their hackles up where a deity is concerned.   If I were  to believe in anything it would be in the goodness of the Nazarene.  In truth, one can recognize that without believe he was He.

Most atheists refuse to do so.  I am not them.  I am an Atheist.  

Great post

[SF1900]

The truth is most people are just that.  People.  The problem is leadership.  Most pastors, priests and the like fleece the flock rather than feed it.  As for non belief being a "religion"?  It's nothing more than a belief (sounds like "faith" to me) that there is nothing awaiting us.  No God.  No Jesus.  No fucktard allah and hoMohammed.  No Buddha.  No turtles all the way down. Nothing.

We Atheists can be even bigger assholes than others because, as the joke goes, how do you know who the Atheist is in a crowd?  Don't worry, they'll tell you.  Many of us whine like pussies when mention is made of the fact that many of our laws are based on Judeo-Christian guidelines.  Get over it, kids.  You'd think some of us were vampires because we can't go past a cross without getting "offended".  Those same atheists will not say a fucking word against a crescent moon or a fat Buddah.  Go figger.  Pussies, I  tell ya.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I suggest you throw them straight up so that they can fall back on top of your dumb ass.  In like fashion, let he who is without faith, STFU.  Let he who has faith remain silent in word but in living verify that faith.   Did not the Nazarene implore that anything you do in his name, do so in silence.  Your reward is from the father and not in the form of the adulation of men.   Hollyweirdos are all for the latter.  They even have awards shows to kiss each others ass.

In closing, keep this in mind.  None of us truly knows what is waiting for us, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  If not, the consider this. Some folk believe in Karma.  I rarely hear atheists make fun of that belief.  That's because most of us are assholists that only get their hackles up where a deity is concerned.   If I were  to believe in anything it would be in the goodness of the Nazarene.  In truth, one can recognize that without believing he was He.

Most atheists refuse to do so.  I am not them.  I am an Atheist.