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1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« on: February 28, 2018, 05:37:43 AM »
The quality is not as good as the Posedown Footage
but it's pretty good & I've gotten a lot of request for this
after the good quality Rory Leidlemeyer video.
Of course it looks the best at 720p. Thx for any views, likes or Subs! KC
Go FullScreen Without Leaving this Page. Posedown Video Below on next post.


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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2018, 05:39:16 AM »
This one is very good quality for it's age showing lots of detail.
It is the Heavy's & Overall Posedown with a thick Chuck Williams & trainer Charles Glass
as the LH and MW winners.


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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2018, 06:58:34 AM »
Mike Christian has always been a sore loser, fucking prick...

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2018, 08:37:21 AM »
It wasn't like it was obvious he was against 2 incredible bodybuilders.
He was in condition but that's when you need a real friend to tell
you; "You look great but don't be surprised if your in 3rd. Your
day will come. Instead they have Yes men around them telling them they are blowing everyone away.
Matt Mendenhall knew where he stood that day & took it like he should.
 

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2018, 08:46:00 AM »
cool to see charles glass, i didnt know he was quite on that level in competing

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 09:28:03 AM »
Christian was always a bit of an ego-centric braggart and sore loser. He still kind of has that, in his recent interview with Hansen.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 09:40:32 AM »
Thought Rory should have beaten Paris.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2018, 09:57:57 AM »
great hair on both rory and paris.

no doubt that put them in the top 2

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 10:36:01 AM »
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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2018, 10:44:13 AM »
If could look like Bob Paris for a full day , what would you do ?

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 11:34:05 PM »
Agree that Rory looked slightly better than Paris. Christian embarrassed himself, throwing a tantrum like a 5 yr old brat.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2018, 11:49:07 PM »
Agree that Rory looked slightly better than Paris. Christian embarrassed himself, throwing a tantrum like a 5 yr old brat.
Christian does that a lot.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2018, 09:14:12 AM »
Mike Christian has always been a sore loser, fucking prick...

Yes he was..the thing is he had no reason. He should have been 5th place
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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2018, 09:16:49 AM »
Christian was always a bit of an ego-centric braggart and sore loser. He still kind of has that, in his recent interview with Hansen.
John Hansen..not Hansen show some respect you are not in school now  ::)

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2018, 09:04:49 PM »
I also prefer Rory with the rounder muscle bellies & being
a bit bigger. I think Paris was sharper from the front but also
the judges back then (Many of them were probably inspired
by a Steve Reeves movie to get into weight training) which Paris
was considered the modern day Steve Reeves. Stallone said he was
1st inspired to train from a Reeves movie. Regardless, they both looked
great & the lightheavy Chuck Williams had some serious striated muscle at least
for that show. A few structure faults but impressive; especially for the time.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2018, 09:11:42 PM »
If could look like Bob Paris for a full day , what would you do ?

Have coach blow me.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2018, 09:24:47 PM »
John Hansen..not Hansen show some respect you are not in school now  ::)

Fuck off nowadays, phaggot.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2018, 09:47:50 PM »

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2018, 10:00:13 PM »
Mike Christian has always been a sore loser, fucking prick...

He was definitely unhappy when he placed 4th at the 1987 Mr. Olympia contest.  As I see no way that he could have thought he would have beaten Lee Haney, I think he expected to place either 2nd or 3rd.  Most likely 3rd, as Rich Gaspari was 222-lb that year, and was crazy thick and conditioned, just a bit thick around the midsection because of the holding all that mass.  He cut to 209.5-lb at the 1988 Mr. Olympia weigh-in, if my memory on that is correct, and looked a lot more streamlined.

Given that he outweighed Lee Labrada by something like 60-lb while being in similar - perhaps even better - conditioning, made it somewhat understandable as to why he was so upset.

That said, Labrada likely placed so highly due to his aesthetics, roundness, muscle insertions, and other things related to shape, rather than size, or even conditioning for that matter.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2018, 10:11:29 PM »
Thought Rory should have beaten Paris.

Agree.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2018, 10:13:24 PM »
The knock on Rory was that he was comparatively a tad narrow compared to Paris, but yeah... could see it going either way.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2018, 10:19:49 PM »

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2018, 11:33:20 PM »


Rory wins that shot

And I’d of placed Rory 1st


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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2018, 12:59:04 AM »
Long post here, LOL.  So if need be, skip to the last bit in bold where I have a question for illuminati or any other Getbig resident expert.  :)

Rory wins that shot

And I’d of placed Rory 1st



illuminati, I think you know enough about bodybuilding for your opinion to hold a lot more weight than average.  I also think that you are likely familiar with Jeff King's story - the 1983 Mr. Universe and Mr. America winner who was denied the right to compete in the IFBB.  He was told that he had to work his way up.  It's sad because had Jeff King attempted to qualify for IFBB pro status in 1984, he likely could have, but decided to pursue competitions in NABBA.

I think he felt that he had beyond proven himself to have a pro level physique - arguably, Jeff had a Top 6 physique by the standards of the 1983 Mr. Olympia!  I think his denial of entry into the IFBB really turned him off from bodybuilding, and that is probably why he didn't compete after 1988.

Incidentally, Jeff easily was at the pro level from 1983 on, if not the Olympia level, so I can see why he would be bothered by being denied entry.  I completely understand the concept of denying someone - after all, look at how long it took Bob Cicherillo to turn pro.  By the time Chick turned pro in 2000 at the [Mr.] USA, he was almost 35, and was a TOP 5 NATIONAL LEVEL HEAVYWEIGHT amateur bodybuilder.

That's a Top 5 standing in one of the most competitive classes, and at the national level at that.  So I can understand why Bob was on the side of Jeff having to qualify through the proper channels - after all, Bob did this, back when pro cards were WAY harder to attain [now we are ALMOST seeing a new IFBB: "Where Everyone Gets a Trophy!  And a Pro Card!"

Bah!  Once again, I have failed at my New Year's Resolution to reduce my Facebook and Getbig post sizes by 90%.  ;D

SO HERE'S THE QUESTION: do you think that Rory's close loss to Bob turned Rory off from attaining his pro card?  I can only imagine being an amateur, walking in to a national level pro qualifier and having a guy beat you who was likely at the Olympia level while on the national stage competing to turn pro.  You would think it would deter someone from wanting to keep going, lol.  I think Jeff King didn't pursue the IFBB [and thus bodybuilding] because he felt insulted that he would have to climb up the qualification latter.  Do you think Rory's 2nd place to Bob deterred him from competing as often as he could have to turn pro?  Keep in mind that after this contest, Rory only competed in four more pro qualifiers between 1984 through to 1988, with one final attempt at the 1994 Nationals, his last contest.

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Re: 1983 Nationals Bob Paris + Heavy & Overall Posedown/Awards
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2018, 02:40:43 AM »
He was definitely unhappy when he placed 4th at the 1987 Mr. Olympia contest.  As I see no way that he could have thought he would have beaten Lee Haney, I think he expected to place either 2nd or 3rd.  Most likely 3rd, as Rich Gaspari was 222-lb that year, and was crazy thick and conditioned, just a bit thick around the midsection because of the holding all that mass.  He cut to 209.5-lb at the 1988 Mr. Olympia weigh-in, if my memory on that is correct, and looked a lot more streamlined.

Given that he outweighed Lee Labrada by something like 60-lb while being in similar - perhaps even better - conditioning, made it somewhat understandable as to why he was so upset.

That said, Labrada likely placed so highly due to his aesthetics, roundness, muscle insertions, and other things related to shape, rather than size, or even conditioning for that matter.

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