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Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« on: March 06, 2018, 06:48:27 AM »


Seoul (AFP) – North Korea said it was willing to abandon its nuclear weapons if the security of its regime is guaranteed, Seoul’s envoy said Tuesday after meeting with the North’s leader Kim Jong Un.

“The North made clear its willingness for the denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula, and made clear that there is no reason to own nuclear (programmes) if military threats towards the North are cleared and the security of its regime is guaranteed,” said Chung Eui-yong, national security adviser to South Korean President Moon Jae-in.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2018, 07:19:10 AM »

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2018, 08:52:17 AM »
The press will spin this as happening in spite of Donald Trump not because of him.  Then they will praise Kim Jong Un for showing restraint.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2018, 09:22:12 AM »
The press will spin this as happening in spite of Donald Trump not because of him.  Then they will praise Kim Jong Un for showing restraint.

You are right 100%.

It's so f'd up.

Our press is such a joke.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 10:03:54 AM »
You are right 100%.

It's so f'd up.

Our press is such a joke.

There is no press left.  They are leftist political activists relentlessly working against Republicans to get Democrats elected.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2018, 10:20:24 AM »
You are right 100%.

It's so f'd up.

Our press is such a joke.

When it fails will they also give him the blame or will that be Obama's fault?

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2018, 10:25:06 AM »
When it fails will they also give him the blame or will that be Obama's fault?

You just have to look around at the lack of Democrats running anything anywhere to see the effect Obama had on his party.

Well they still run the ghettos I guess.

That guy was HORRIBLE leader.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2018, 10:37:59 AM »
When it fails will they also give him the blame or will that be Obama's fault?

The answer to your question is that the press controls the narrative that describes what "it" is and whether "it" has failed or succeeded.

The game is rigged.  Heads they win, tails you lose.


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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2018, 10:40:52 AM »
The answer to your question is that the press controls the narrative that describes what "it" is and whether "it" has failed or succeeded.

The game is rigged.  Heads they win, tails you lose.



Don't worry

Fox News will still give Trump credit for any success and no blame for any failure

That's part of the rigged media as well

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2018, 10:52:03 AM »
Don't worry

Fox News will still give Trump credit for any success and no blame for any failure

That's part of the rigged media as well

One right leaning news organization.  All the rest are left.  Every single one.  Most are far left.

Fox definitely gives the pro Trump side of the debate but they have some fair people that will call Trump out when he screws up.  Mark Levin and Tucker Carlson are right leaning but fair.  95% of Fox is shit now too.

It doesn't really matter what Fox does because the left has a much greater cultural reach.  The Daily Show, Kimmel, Saturday Night live.  It's a non-stop festival of Trump mocking and Trump bashing.  Every day, all day.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2018, 11:06:06 AM »
One right leaning news organization.  All the rest are left.  Every single one.  Most are far left.

Fox definitely gives the pro Trump side of the debate but they have some fair people that will call Trump out when he screws up.  Mark Levin and Tucker Carlson are right leaning but fair.  95% of Fox is shit now too.

It doesn't really matter what Fox does because the left has a much greater cultural reach.  The Daily Show, Kimmel, Saturday Night live.  It's a non-stop festival of Trump mocking and Trump bashing.  Every day, all day.

LOL - on any given day Fox New is a ratings juggernaut or they are totally feckless.... all depending on the argument at the moment

Fact of the matter is that a lot of people in this country watch Fox News (as right wingers on this board insist all the time) and they absolutely shape public perception on a topic.

I'll go you one further.  There are a lot of people in this country that ONLY watch Fox News

If they didn't see it on Fox News then it didn't happen

The fact also is they are a big part of the RIGGED MEDIA that you mentioned before




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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2018, 11:18:57 AM »
LOL - on any given day Fox New is a ratings juggernaut or they are totally feckless.... all depending on the argument at the moment

Fact of the matter is that a lot of people in this country watch Fox News (as right wingers on this board insist all the time) and they absolutely shape public perception on a topic.

I'll go you one further.  There are a lot of people in this country that ONLY watch Fox News

If they didn't see it on Fox News then it didn't happen

The fact also is they are a big part of the RIGGED MEDIA that you mentioned before





A lot of people do watch Fox News.  Mostly old people.  It's one company, all the rest are left leaning.  NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, you name it.  Literally everyone else.

Democrats have a stranglehold on the education system and the media.  News, television, movies, print media.  Tech companies like Facebook and Twitter are all serious leftist.  Everyting is loaded with leftist laking points.  To argue otherwise is absurd.

Republicans own talk radio and they have some voices on Youtube but the powers that be are censoring and banning them out of existence.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2018, 11:24:45 AM »
A lot of people do watch Fox News.  Mostly old people.  It's one company, all the rest are left leaning.  NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, you name it.  Literally everyone else.

Democrats have a stranglehold on the education system and the media.  News, television, movies, print media.  Tech companies like Facebook and Twitter are all serious leftist.  Everyting is loaded with leftist laking points.  To argue otherwise is absurd.

Republicans own talk radio and they have some voices on Youtube but the powers that be are censoring and banning them out of existence.

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/february-2018-ratings-fox-news-marks-194-consecutive-months-as-the-most-watched-cable-news-network/358292

194 months on top of the news ratings and plenty of people of all ages who not only watch Fox News but get their news from Fox online and other right wing media sources (websites, podcasts, etc..)- many of which post links on this very board

All of those right wing sources are part of the RIGGED MEDIA




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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2018, 11:32:50 AM »
http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/february-2018-ratings-fox-news-marks-194-consecutive-months-as-the-most-watched-cable-news-network/358292

194 months on top of the news ratings and plenty of people of all ages who not only watch Fox News but get their news from Fox online and other right wing media sources (websites, podcasts, etc..)- many of which post links on this very board

All of those right wing sources are part of the RIGGED MEDIA





The mainstream media is absolutley rigged.  Democrats have a monopoly.  It's Fox versus everyone else.  If you don't want to acknowledge that it's fine with me.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2018, 11:36:39 AM »
The mainstream media is absolutley rigged.  Democrats have a monopoly.  It's Fox versus everyone else.  If you don't want to acknowledge that it's fine with me.

All media is RIGGED and Dems don't have a monopoly on influencing public opinion though I understand you really really really want to believe that


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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2018, 11:37:17 AM »
One right leaning news organization.  All the rest are left.  Every single one.  Most are far left.


Yep, never really got the fox ratings thing. They are essentially the only right leaning news channel there is so all of those people are going to go there. Not sure how much steam OAN has in that regard.

Left leaning individuals spread themselves out among many stations.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2018, 03:49:13 PM »
A lot of people do watch Fox News.  Mostly old people.  It's one company, all the rest are left leaning.  NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, you name it.  Literally everyone else.

Democrats have a stranglehold on the education system and the media.  News, television, movies, print media.  Tech companies like Facebook and Twitter are all serious leftist.  Everyting is loaded with leftist laking points.  To argue otherwise is absurd.

Republicans own talk radio and they have some voices on Youtube but the powers that be are censoring and banning them out of existence.

Let's put some numbers to this: On any given night, Fox will have about 2.5M viewers, while ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, and NPR will garner an aggregate audience in excess of 25M.  (Yes, I'm leaving out Mostly Stuff Nobody Cares about and Cable Nadir News.)

Discussion of Fox News having too much influence is tilting at windmills.

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2018, 04:01:08 PM »
Let's put some numbers to this: On any given night, Fox will have about 2.5M viewers, while ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, and NPR will garner an aggregate audience in excess of 25M.  (Yes, I'm leaving out Mostly Stuff Nobody Cares about and Cable Nadir News.)

Discussion of Fox News having too much influence is tilting at windmills.

NPR is National Public Radio so not sure how you would count their "viewers"

I've seen no proof provided here that ABC, NBC or CBS have any bias toward either party

The objectively biased editorial staff are MSNBC, FOX and to a certain extent CNN (I see pro-Trump opinions on CNN all the time)

A story from last year reported that Fox has more viewers than MSNBC and CNN combined and I doubt that has changed much

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/321629-fox-news-beats-cnn-msnbc-combined-in-feb-ratings

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2018, 12:23:43 AM »

I've seen no proof provided here that ABC, NBC or CBS have any bias toward either party



Bwahahahaha!

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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2018, 12:42:32 AM »

I've seen no proof provided here that ABC, NBC or CBS have any bias toward either party



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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2018, 04:28:41 AM »
The press will spin this as happening in spite of Donald Trump not because of him.  Then they will praise Kim Jong Un for showing restraint.

right on schedule:
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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2018, 04:40:33 AM »
right on schedule:

"Actually worked"

Like it's a foreign concept that the way to combat a backwards ass regime is through a show of absolute power.

That's all Trump did, was remind Un of the reality of the situation.  He basically said "fuck you, do anything and it's over"......
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Re: Winning: Kim Willing to Begin Denuclearization Talks
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2018, 06:35:51 AM »
"Actually worked"

Like it's a foreign concept that the way to combat a backwards ass regime is through a show of absolute power.

That's all Trump did, was remind Un of the reality of the situation.  He basically said "fuck you, do anything and it's over"......
You're not the one but it was/is a foreign concept for many. He was criticized roundly for it by liberals/media.