I laugh when someone says a top pro or former one has/had a small chest. No their delts and/or arms were just more devloped than their chest, same with arnold and lee who chest was biiger in proprtion to their delts, but their delts were by no means small.
the guys from haney and arnold's era also did alot of bodyweight dips and properly, not with the stupid chains around the neck injury shit
yes inclines hit front delts alot more, but they do still hit chest and in the sum of everything including flat/decline presses and flyes and dip there is an overall look that makes the muscles complete and tie in with the others.
Like the guys arguing about curls in that Charles Glass thread and how front delts get activated alot in some curling positions. So fucking what! Our muscles are all working with each other in alot of moves, that is how development occurs. Next to impossible to 100% isolate a muscle, whether a so called iso exercise or combo.
Lot of people running around with big asses these days doing ass to grass squats, yet none have the overall leg and glute develpment/look of sprinters, cyclists and speed skaters who's movements are mostly paralell and above in nature.
same with olympic lifters who lists basically mimic the same plane of motion as front squats when they squat down, look at the sweep and lower quad development around their knees and tell me specific movements dont hit certain areas more than others.; they also have phenominal delt arm and back development and people I have talked to who did olypic lifting years ago(before it beceme a fad to do those lifts for a reps via crossfit) say they did not do curls/laterals. pushowns etc. I think that is where vince basile is kind of correct in talking about how when you work certain areas hard the other areas do grow in development. I am sure the olypic lifts from lets say an emg machine dont hit the biceps as hard and dirtectly as certain curls do but when you are doing cleans and jerks, snatches and assiatnce movemnts like front squats and others with mutliple sets several times a week with upwards of a few hundred lbs with the stronger people your whole body is getting stimulated
Tom platz did mostly close stanced upright squats and those weird range of motion hack squats that were like extreme sissy squats at the bottom.
Its not always genetics and drugs, it is also how people are structured I would believe what certain movements give them a response over others. Bethere does only moderate weight hacks and has great leg development.
Gymnasts do movements with mainly imitate dips and chins at various angles on the bars and beams
I am far from smart when it comes to these things, but I am smart enough to know that there things in studies that happen to the body whether someone is hitting and exercise targeting "lower biceps" or something that shows up as a pure mainly quad movement.
just do the exercises that don't cause the wrong kind of pain for a weight that challenges you in the rep range you are shooting for and do as many different planes of motion to hit the main target and they will stimulate all the other areas as well
All I know is the people who tend to do a variety of movements natural or loaded to the gills and who are paying attention to what they are trying to target ten to have more complete physiques
as per those 3 pros mentioned about their calves with all due respect every single video I have seen of any pro who has shitty calves train them they seem to not even be hitting them properly for them ie they dont seem to have the same connection(stretch./contraction) that they do when you see them training other parts. and not every bodypart respinds to the same type of training everyone does for a particular part
alot of those guys also probably damaged nerves by shooting the gear into the calves as well
fuck dorian apparently used to do a couple of lower set and for calves low reps for standing and seated. If it was all just genetics and drugs why did he bother with the couple of sets? other need to do 100's of reps a workout to get the same results. and why do ballerinas and soccer players and rugby players have such good calf development? who really knows
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