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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #950 on: March 08, 2020, 08:56:01 AM »
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Re: Corona virus & Stock Market crash of 2020
« Reply #951 on: March 09, 2020, 06:48:34 AM »


Coronavirus stock market crash of 2020 coming.


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https://www.marketwatch.com/



Dow down -1,800 at the open

Trading halted temporarily

Panic setting in





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Re: Corona virus & Stock Market crash of 2020
« Reply #952 on: March 09, 2020, 07:19:09 AM »
https://www.marketwatch.com/



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #953 on: March 09, 2020, 01:09:31 PM »
Well, that’s the end of the shale oil industry and fracking. No way these companies can stay in business at these oil prices.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #954 on: March 09, 2020, 01:15:51 PM »
So how’s my strategy looking🤔



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The market will always take a big hit at some point, but you can’t think that way. Otherwise you’ll never be in the market.

You just need to have an escape plan for when it does happen. Markets don’t crash in a day. When things start looking bad, you get out. Of course, you might be wrong and the market turns around and doesn’t crash but that’s the game. If you can’t  handle this reality, don’t play.


It’s not about timing the market. It’s about crash insurance. The get out point is arbitrary. It has nothing to do with any sort of forecasting.

The market went down 90% in the 1920s. There’s been 2 50% drops in the last 20 years. There’s no guarantee that it won’t happen again. I know people who had to delay their retirement because of those crashes.



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Re: Corona virus & Stock Market crash of 2020
« Reply #955 on: March 09, 2020, 01:22:09 PM »
https://www.marketwatch.com/



Dow down -1,800 at the open

Trading halted temporarily

Panic setting in





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Dow DOWN -2,013 as CoronavirusCrash continues




https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/dow-jones-dives-new-session-lows-coronavirus-slams-stock-market/


Coronavirus pandemic?

Fed panic?

Emergency QE 4 soon?

Floor traders talking 40-60% Market drop?

Stay tuned....




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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #956 on: March 09, 2020, 02:32:02 PM »
The dirty little secret is that traders love this shit. You get your money a lot faster in down markets. Even if we get a relief rally there’s lotta resistance up ahead. I would bet there’s at least one more down leg.

And I doubt all that money which poured into the bond market is going to jump right back into stocks. I told my GF to get comfortable on the sidelines.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #957 on: March 09, 2020, 05:40:21 PM »
Still room for the market to drop further, or rebound.

https://apnews.com/8ee382c716034da4ba200fb3967aad34

"IS THE BULL IN DANGER?

It was 11 years ago that recession-driven declines in the stock market stopped and the current bull market began it’s record run. But Monday was hardly a happy birthday.

The S&P 500 dropped 7.6% and is 18.9% below its most recent record, set last month. If that decline extends to 20%, the bull market will be dead and the bear market will be in full growl. The last bear market ran from October 2007 to March 2009 and the S&P 500 dropped nearly 57%."


https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio/table/by-year

S&P 500 P/E ratio:

Date            Value
Mar 9, 2020    20.67 estimate
Jan 1, 2020    24.67 estimate
Jan 1, 2019    19.60

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #958 on: March 10, 2020, 05:03:02 AM »
As we head lower (over time) anticipate short cover/ relief rallies.


#CoronaVirusCrash2020





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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #959 on: March 10, 2020, 08:22:21 AM »
i think it's obama's fault.
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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #960 on: March 10, 2020, 08:30:45 AM »
i think it's obama's fault.

The truth is that financial markets have been acting this way long before either of those two were born and will be doing so long after they’re (and we’re) gone.

If you don’t believe me, research stock market price history and see what the markets did between 1900-1920.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #961 on: March 10, 2020, 08:39:34 AM »
The truth is that financial markets have been acting this way long before either of those two were born and will be doing so long after they’re (and we’re) gone.

If you don’t believe me, research stock market price history and see what the markets did between 1900-1920.


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #962 on: March 10, 2020, 01:26:01 PM »


As we head lower (over time) anticipate short cover/ relief rallies.


#CoronaVirusCrash2020





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https://www.barrons.com/articles/dow-jones-industrial-average-falls-from-high-as-uncertainty-reins-51583856659

Dow UP +1,176 points

Coincidence?





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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #963 on: March 11, 2020, 07:36:03 AM »
Not looking good today.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #964 on: March 11, 2020, 07:38:03 AM »
Not looking good today.

Yeah no shit

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #965 on: March 11, 2020, 08:01:43 AM »

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #966 on: March 11, 2020, 08:02:42 AM »

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #967 on: March 11, 2020, 08:22:35 AM »

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #968 on: March 11, 2020, 09:25:46 AM »
El profeta approved:

A coronavirus recession may be coming: Here's what to do with your money

1. Define clear, measurable and achievable investment goals. For example, your goal might be to retire in 20 years at your current standard of living for the rest of your life. Without clear goals, people often approach the path to getting there piecemeal and end up with a motley collection of investments that don’t serve their actual needs. As baseball legend Yogi Berra once said, “If you don’t know where you are going, you’ll end up someplace else.”

2. Assess how much risk you can take on. This will depend on your investment horizon, job security and attitude toward risk. A good rule of thumb is if you’re nearing retirement, you should have a smaller share of risky assets in your portfolio. If you just entered the job market as a 20-something, you can take on more risk because you have time to recover from market downturns.

3. Diversify your portfolio. In general, riskier assets like stocks compensate for that risk by offering higher expected returns. At the same time, safer assets such as bonds tend to go up when things are bad, but offer much lower gains. If you invest a big part of your savings in a single stock, however, you are not being compensated for the risk that the company will go bust. To eliminate these uncompensated risks, diversify your portfolio to include a wide range of asset classes, such as foreign stocks and bonds, and you’ll be in a better position to endure a downturn.

4. Don’t try to pick individual stocks, identify the best-performing actively managed funds or time the market. Instead, stick to a diversified portfolio of passively managed stock and bond funds. Funds that have done well in the recent past may not continue to do so in the future.

5. Look for low fees. Future returns are uncertain, but investment costs will certainly take a bite out of your portfolio. To keep costs down, invest in index funds whenever possible. These funds track broad market indices like the Standard & Poor’s 500 and tend to have very low fees yet produce higher returns than the majority of actively managed funds.

6. Continue to make regular contributions to your investments, even during a recession. Try to set aside as much as you can afford. Many employers even match all or some of your personal retirement contributions. Unfortunately, most Americans are not saving enough for retirement. One in four Americans enrolled in employer-sponsored defined contribution plans does not save enough to get the employer’s full match. That’s like letting your employer keep part of your salary.

7. There’s one exception to my advice about standing pat. Let’s suppose your long-term plan calls for a portfolio with 50% in U.S. stocks, 25% in international stocks and 25% in bonds. After U.S. stocks have a good run, their weight in the portfolio may increase a lot. This changes the risk of your portfolio. So about once a year, rebalance your portfolio to match your long-term allocation targets. Doing so can make a big difference in performance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-recession-may-coming-heres-164357499.html

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #969 on: March 11, 2020, 09:40:36 AM »
El profeta approved:

A coronavirus recession may be coming: Here's what to do with your money

1. Define clear, measurable and achievable investment goals. For example, your goal might be to retire in 20 years at your current standard of living for the rest of your life. Without clear goals, people often approach the path to getting there piecemeal and end up with a motley collection of investments that don’t serve their actual needs. As baseball legend Yogi Berra once said, “If you don’t know where you are going, you’ll end up someplace else.”

2. Assess how much risk you can take on. This will depend on your investment horizon, job security and attitude toward risk. A good rule of thumb is if you’re nearing retirement, you should have a smaller share of risky assets in your portfolio. If you just entered the job market as a 20-something, you can take on more risk because you have time to recover from market downturns.

3. Diversify your portfolio. In general, riskier assets like stocks compensate for that risk by offering higher expected returns. At the same time, safer assets such as bonds tend to go up when things are bad, but offer much lower gains. If you invest a big part of your savings in a single stock, however, you are not being compensated for the risk that the company will go bust. To eliminate these uncompensated risks, diversify your portfolio to include a wide range of asset classes, such as foreign stocks and bonds, and you’ll be in a better position to endure a downturn.

4. Don’t try to pick individual stocks, identify the best-performing actively managed funds or time the market. Instead, stick to a diversified portfolio of passively managed stock and bond funds. Funds that have done well in the recent past may not continue to do so in the future.

5. Look for low fees. Future returns are uncertain, but investment costs will certainly take a bite out of your portfolio. To keep costs down, invest in index funds whenever possible. These funds track broad market indices like the Standard & Poor’s 500 and tend to have very low fees yet produce higher returns than the majority of actively managed funds.

6. Continue to make regular contributions to your investments, even during a recession. Try to set aside as much as you can afford. Many employers even match all or some of your personal retirement contributions. Unfortunately, most Americans are not saving enough for retirement. One in four Americans enrolled in employer-sponsored defined contribution plans does not save enough to get the employer’s full match. That’s like letting your employer keep part of your salary.

7. There’s one exception to my advice about standing pat. Let’s suppose your long-term plan calls for a portfolio with 50% in U.S. stocks, 25% in international stocks and 25% in bonds. After U.S. stocks have a good run, their weight in the portfolio may increase a lot. This changes the risk of your portfolio. So about once a year, rebalance your portfolio to match your long-term allocation targets. Doing so can make a big difference in performance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-recession-may-coming-heres-164357499.html
6.  Continue to make regular contributions to your investments......um, no thanks.

The stock market is a fool's game.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #970 on: March 11, 2020, 09:47:07 AM »
6.  Continue to make regular contributions to your investments......um, no thanks.

The stock market is a fool's game.

Actually, I almost bolded the text on that one.  Great advice!  If you disagree, then investing in the stock market is definitely not for you, and that's okay.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #971 on: March 11, 2020, 10:30:48 AM »
El profeta approved:


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #972 on: March 11, 2020, 10:37:03 AM »
Actually, I almost bolded the text on that one.  Great advice!  If you disagree, then investing in the stock market is definitely not for you, and that's okay.



Agreed. If you are in the game you have to stay in and hope timing works out when you are ready to retire. Trying to trade in and out and buy back in later is a fool's pursuit.


Of course, I'm not in it and never been happier...

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018-2020)
« Reply #973 on: March 11, 2020, 10:43:31 AM »


Agreed. If you are in the game you have to stay in and hope timing works out when you are ready to retire. Trying to trade in and out and buy back in later is a fool's pursuit.


Of course, I'm not in it and never been happier...


Exactly!  As for me, I've been in it for a long time and never been happier...   :D

There are more than one way to invest and grow your net worth.

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