Is lifting lighter really safer?

[TheGrinch]

[ilalin]

yes, and it's still effective. With assistance, it's amazing.

[seCrawler]

One thing for sure is, his birdie still works 

[Disgusted]

The question is not is lifting lighter safer because you could do 8 reps with a very heavy weight that allows you to get 8 or 8 reps with a lighter weight that you could easily get more reps with. The latter will not induce muscle growth.

You have to go to failure or very close to it to induce muscle growth. So the real question is, is it safer using higher reps than low lower reps and this is assuming that you are going to failure whether it be 5 reps or 25.

[HTexan]

Yup, it is. Or just used proper form. I fucked up my lower back being a stupid ass.

[cephissus]

The question is not is lifting lighter safer because you could do 8 reps with a very heavy weight that allows you to get 8 or 8 reps with a lighter weight that you could easily get more reps with. The latter will not induce muscle growth.

You have to go to failure or very close to it to induce muscle growth. So the real question is, is it safer using higher reps than low lower reps and this is assuming that you are going to failure whether it be 5 reps or 25.

Right, good point. What do you think the answer is?

With light weight, keeping your focus near failure can be harder. I find myself losing sensation and control. With heavy weight, keeping control of the weight at the end of the set can be easier.

Either way, the winner isn't so clear cut imo.

[LurkerNoMore]

Ronnie and Dorian both trained with heavy weights.... wrecked their bodies.

Vince Taylor and Melvin did lighter weights pumping reps and seem to be injury free.

[pkaz]

The question is not is lifting lighter safer because you could do 8 reps with a very heavy weight that allows you to get 8 or 8 reps with a lighter weight that you could easily get more reps with. The latter will not induce muscle growth.

You have to go to failure or very close to it to induce muscle growth. So the real question is, is it safer using higher reps than low lower reps and this is assuming that you are going to failure whether it be 5 reps or 25.

Question, Disgusted. Been in this game for a long time and it just seems like everything works---for awhile. And then not. Bill Pearl was against training to failure. What are your thoughts on his type routines? Thanks.

[phreak]

4 pec tears, not a single tear caused by heavy (<5RM) loads. Last one was on the 2nd rep of the 4th set of 8 reps with a weight.

[Rambone]

Ronnie and Dorian both trained with heavy weights.... wrecked their bodies.

Vince Taylor and Melvin did lighter weights pumping reps and seem to be injury free.

14 Sandows

vs.

0 Sandows and a 10 year prison sentence

[HTexan]

4 pec tears, not a single tear caused by heavy (<5RM) loads. Last one was on the 2nd rep of the 4th set of 8 reps with a weight.

4 pec tears!? I had 1 and that hurt like fuck, couldn’t work upper body for about 8 months or so, if I remember correctly.

[residue]

14 Sandows but hebrew

vs.

0 Sandows and a 10 year prison sentence

fixed

[El Diablo Blanco]

Racist post reported. What about lifting darker?

[be back]

once you lose control of a weight and momentum takes over you are asking for trouble..

[HTexan]

Racist post reported. What about lifting darker?

[SF1900]

once you lose control of a weight and momentum takes over you are asking for trouble..

Tell us more....

[phreak]

4 pec tears!? I had 1 and that hurt like fuck, couldn’t work upper body for about 8 months or so, if I remember correctly.

In my experience the ones in the muscle belly don't hurt nearly as much as the ones near a tendon. The last one tore my left pec in about half, but was far less painful than my first one, where I too had to take about 8 months away from pressing.

[be back]

Tell us more....

constant tension at all times, no throwing weights around

[HTexan]

In my experience the ones in the muscle belly don't hurt nearly as much as the ones near a tendon. The last one tore my left pec in about half, but was far less painful than my first one, where I too had to take about 8 months away from pressing.

Yup, and the fuckup thing is I didn’t even hurt it benching. I was doing weighted dips.

[phreak]

Yup, and the fuckup thing is I didn’t even hurt it benching. I was doing weighted dips.

I was doing PL comps off and on for 25 years and never tore it while maxing... Life is just strange that way. Good luck on the recovery, and finding alternative challenges!

[HTexan]

I was doing PL comps off and on for 25 years and never tore it while maxing... Life is just strange that way. Good luck on the recovery, and finding alternative challenges!

Pecs are great, this was years ago in college. Low back is junk now because of bad lifting technique.

[SF1900]

Just avoid all compound movements.

Stick to machines.

Your muscles don't know the difference when under tension.

[Disgusted]

Right, good point. What do you think the answer is?

With light weight, keeping your focus near failure can be harder. I find myself losing sensation and control. With heavy weight, keeping control of the weight at the end of the set can be easier.

Either way, the winner isn't so clear cut imo.

They both build muscle BUT!!! with lower reps you will build more strength. I know what you mean with higher reps, its the lactic acid build up that really gets in the way at times.

[Bulgarian_enforcer]

I like short gym sessions of 40-50 min tops.

One compound movement per training going heavy but not below 6 reps in the end. Been doing very good so far. For instance, today I got 5 mins of cardio to get the blood flowing, warm up joints and ligaments, then I  did 6 sets of squats finishing at 500 pounds for 8 reps.

then i do 4 sets of 4 exercises in a circle with no rest in between exercises - today they were neck bridges, forearm curls, shrugs with kettle bell front shoulder trowing shit.

then i take my shirt off for them bitches,

[LurkerNoMore]

14 Sandows

vs.

0 Sandows and a 10 year prison sentence

True.   But how much help is those Sandows in the mornings when they try to get out of bed?

At their current conditions, I would rather be Vince and healthy with 0 Sandows than any of the others.