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Palumboism · « **on:** March 31, 2018, 10:18:45 AM »

Tesla Model X Driver Killed In California After Crashing On Barrier With Autopilot Engaged
BY Brad Anderson

A Tesla Model X driver has been killed in California after the all-electric luxury SUV slammed into a barrier on U.S. Highway 101.

The crash and subsequent fire occurred earlier in the week, involved two other cars, and killed 38-year-old Walter Wong, an Apple engineer, who was driving the Tesla. The electric automaker has now confirmed that Autopilot was enabled at the time of the crash, Reuters reports.

In a blog post, Tesla said: “Autopilot was engaged with the adaptive cruise control follow-distance set to minimum.” In the seconds leading up to the fatal impact, numerous visual and an audible hands-on warning instructed the driver to put their hands back on the steering wheel.

“The driver had about five seconds and 150 meters of unobstructed view of the concrete divider with the crushed crash attenuator, but the vehicle logs show that no action was taken,” the blog post continued.

Tesla hasn’t said why Autopilot failed to detect the concrete divider.

Authorities start investigation

Both the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board are investigating the fatal crash.

The first confirmed fatal crash to have occurred when Autopilot was introduced happened in mid-2016. Upon investigating that incident, the NTSB said that Tesla should have taken further steps to prevent the system’s misuse.

In the aforementioned blog post, Tesla admitted that Autopilot is not perfect, but asserts that it makes driving safer.

“Autopilot does not prevent all accidents – such a standard would be impossible – but it makes them much less likely to occur. It unequivocally makes the world safer for the vehicle occupants, pedestrians and cyclists.”

This tragic incident comes less than two weeks after a Volvo XC90 operated by Uber, that was on autonomous mode, killed a woman cyclist in Arizona.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/03/tesla-model-x-driver-killed-california-crashing-barrier-autopilot-engaged/

Palumboism · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2018, 10:20:01 AM »

I wonder why Elon and the Shareholders don't worry about the safety reputation of Tesla. Lithium Ion batteries + self driving cars = What could go wrong? See picture above for results.

Palumboism · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2018, 10:20:54 AM »

Board_SHERIF · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2018, 11:07:40 AM »

haa haa haa...fuking losers

Hypertrophy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2018, 11:55:58 AM »

Apparently a lot of people are willing to put down lots of money just to become guinea pigs for Tesla.

Irongrip400 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2018, 11:58:32 AM »

So it said there were warnings for five seconds and the dude didn't grab the wheel and change direction? Sounds to me like he was asleep. Reminds me of the joke a few threads ago by Big Al about his grandad dying peacefully in his sleep.

Anyway, my GMC has a seat vibration and lights that flash on the bottom of the windshield if I get too close to a car while driving or if I cross a solid line. That's literally milliseconds and I correct myself if I'm not just being and asshole and tailgating. This dude must've been on his phone or something.

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2018, 12:06:27 PM »

remember the good old days when driving took most of your attention? You would actively drive? Sure, there was changing the radio station, talking to a passenger, or sliding a matchbook under the 8 track but people weren't texting, reading newspapers or putting on makeup at 60 mph

Skylge · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2018, 12:14:49 PM »

Quote from: Palumboism on March 31, 2018, 10:20:01 AM

I wonder why Elon and the Shareholders don't worry about the safety reputation of Tesla. Lithium Ion batteries + self driving cars = What could go wrong? See picture above for results.

It's not a level 5 self driving car

Second: the barrier had been hit earlier (days or weeks) so was almost completely removed / destroyed by the earlier accident

Local government, or who ever was responsible, should have repaired it sooner

Model X is a very safe car, for an SUV a very low centre of gravity

HTexan · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2018, 12:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Skylge on March 31, 2018, 12:14:49 PM

It's not a level 5 self driving car

Second: the barrier had been hit earlier (days or weeks) so was almost completely removed / destroyed by the earlier accident

Local government, or who ever was responsible, should have repaired it sooner

Model X is a very safe car, for an SUV a very low centre of gravity

Yeah Telsa say dude didn’t have his hands on wheel for 6 seconds before crash. This is why we can’t have nice things. Some dumass has to ruin it for all for us.

Rambone · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2018, 12:58:09 PM »

Quote from: Palumboism on March 31, 2018, 10:18:45 AM

Tesla Model X Driver Killed In California After Crashing On Barrier With Autopilot Engaged
BY Brad Anderson

A Tesla Model X driver has been killed in California after the all-electric luxury SUV slammed into a barrier on U.S. Highway 101.

The crash and subsequent fire occurred earlier in the week, involved two other cars, and killed 38-year-old Walter Wong, an Apple engineer, who was driving the Tesla. The electric automaker has now confirmed that Autopilot was enabled at the time of the crash, Reuters reports.

In a blog post, Tesla said: “Autopilot was engaged with the adaptive cruise control follow-distance set to minimum.” In the seconds leading up to the fatal impact, numerous visual and an audible hands-on warning instructed the driver to put their hands back on the steering wheel.

“The driver had about five seconds and 150 meters of unobstructed view of the concrete divider with the crushed crash attenuator, but the vehicle logs show that no action was taken,” the blog post continued.

Tesla hasn’t said why Autopilot failed to detect the concrete divider.

Authorities start investigation

Both the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board are investigating the fatal crash.

The first confirmed fatal crash to have occurred when Autopilot was introduced happened in mid-2016. Upon investigating that incident, the NTSB said that Tesla should have taken further steps to prevent the system’s misuse.

In the aforementioned blog post, Tesla admitted that Autopilot is not perfect, but asserts that it makes driving safer.

“Autopilot does not prevent all accidents – such a standard would be impossible – but it makes them much less likely to occur. It unequivocally makes the world safer for the vehicle occupants, pedestrians and cyclists.”

This tragic incident comes less than two weeks after a Volvo XC90 operated by Uber, that was on autonomous mode, killed a woman cyclist in Arizona.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/03/tesla-model-x-driver-killed-california-crashing-barrier-autopilot-engaged/

Further proves that Asians are the worst drivers on the planet (excluding Haitians). An Asian behind the wheel of a self-driving car. What could go wong?

Parker · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2018, 01:04:35 PM »

Quote from: Skylge on March 31, 2018, 12:14:49 PM

It's not a level 5 self driving car

Second: the barrier had been hit earlier (days or weeks) so was almost completely removed / destroyed by the earlier accident

Local government, or who ever was responsible, should have repaired it sooner

Model X is a very safe car, for an SUV a very low centre of gravity

Victim had reported that the vehicle would veer to that barrier and several occasions.

Bevo · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2018, 01:22:36 PM »

Quote from: Rambone on March 31, 2018, 12:58:09 PM

Further proves that Asians are the worst drivers on the planet (excluding Haitians). An Asian behind the wheel of a self-driving car. What could go wong?

No one is worse than women drivers! No one

You prob never been to Italy or Russia then

Bevo · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2018, 01:24:28 PM »

Electric and self driving are great concepts

Teslas are overrated cars, piss poor build quality that people buy up cause of Hollywood and smart marketing like the Prius was hyped, both pieces of garbage

Rambone · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2018, 01:45:05 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on March 31, 2018, 01:22:36 PM

No one is worse than women drivers! No one

You prob never been to Italy or Russia then

I agree. Worst combo is an Asian woman by far in the U.S.

IRON CROSS · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2018, 01:46:44 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on March 31, 2018, 01:22:36 PM

No one is worse than women drivers! No one

You prob never been to Italy or Russia then

Nope, Chinese male & females

, bloody catastrophic on the roads.

Mayday · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2018, 02:15:57 PM »

unfortunately it seems the vital point of us not being able to automate driving has been missed.

Today is primitive vs 5yrs from now. Im in this sector and they massively oversell the car's ability to self drive when it fails to detect things or veers off its path because the data is bad.

el numero uno · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2018, 02:29:46 PM »

Quote from: Hypertrophy on March 31, 2018, 11:55:58 AM

Apparently a lot of people are willing to put down lots of money just to become guinea pigs for Tesla.

Elon Musk has a huge fan base.

Go to any tech/startups forum, he's basically the Arnold of techpreneurs.

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2018, 02:29:50 PM »

Tesla will be bankrupt soon.

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2018, 02:31:02 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on March 31, 2018, 01:24:28 PM

Electric and self driving are great concepts

Teslas are overrated cars, piss poor build quality that people buy up cause of Hollywood and smart marketing like the Prius was hyped, both pieces of garbage

Didn't they get Consumer reports highest rating?

Parker · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2018, 02:39:34 PM »

Quote from: Mayday on March 31, 2018, 02:15:57 PM

unfortunately it seems the vital point of us not being able to automate driving has been missed.

Today is primitive vs 5yrs from now. Im in this sector and they massively oversell the car's ability to self drive when it fails to detect things or veers off its path because the data is bad.

Autonomous cars will encourage people to be more neglectful (already we saw that the driver of the Uber was looking down), while "riding" and throughout their lives. There is this constant mantra that "humans are the weak link", and "human error are the cause for accidents, so remove the human". So less humans driving, means less accidents. So, self driving cars can be marketed as being for your own good. Is this sounding familiar? It should. And take a guess at which side/ideology would be pushing this?

HTexan · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2018, 03:19:05 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on March 31, 2018, 02:29:50 PM

Tesla will be bankrupt soon.

They just recalled half their current cars. Which makes me actually want to buy one, because it could be the future delorean.

Bevo · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2018, 03:27:09 PM »

Quote from: Agnostic007 on March 31, 2018, 02:31:02 PM

Didn't they get Consumer reports highest rating?

Not in build quality with the cheap materials they use, for the price they charge

Go sit in a 7 Series and S class Mercedes and then the tesla, tesla looks so cheap and not luxury at all

Bevo · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2018, 03:27:45 PM »

Quote from: IRON CROSS on March 31, 2018, 01:46:44 PM

Nope, Chinese male & females , bloody catastrophic on the roads.

Like I said go to Russia or parts of Italy....

oldschoolfan · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2018, 03:45:56 PM »

tesla has a massive amount of debt its all hype.

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2018, 03:46:22 PM »

What good is auto pilot if you're supposed to be alert and vigilant? Might as well have the wheel in your hand then.