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program to get to mid 400's incline?
« on: April 12, 2018, 09:02:57 AM »
Basically I have this obsession with the incline bench. According to charles Poliquin

"The pressing angle of an incline bench press is more specific in terms of sporting movement due to the shoulder joint angle in relation to the trunk. Whether it is a punch delivered in boxing, the release of a shot put, or the push-off position in the short-track speed skating relay, you will notice that the upper arm is at a 45-degree angle upward in relation to the trunk. There are also many sporting movements where one pushes with the upper arm directly at 90 degrees to the trunk."

Plus its safer than the flat bench and you can't cheat.


I want to rep out 405 on incline for at least 3-4 reps. To me that's the sign of a legit strong guy. Once I hit that I will be content with my pursuit of strength. My current best is 365 for 3. Other than hopping on a bunch of drugs which I'd rather not do honestly, what is the best method to get there?

Then again will these even be possible without drugs? Remember I'm about 6'0, and only weight 220 ish....most guys I know repping 405 on incline were all 240-250 at around that height. Is it possible I've just maxed out my strength for the amount of muscle I have? From a health perspective, I don't want to gain 30 fucking pounds.
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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2018, 09:04:07 AM »
Up the dose.

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2018, 09:07:04 AM »
Up the dose.

HAHA other than that. In all seriousness I don't see whats  the point of taking a bunch of gear... Muscle will go away when you come off them anyways. Rather use that cash to buy a rolex or something. IMO if you can't do something without abusing yourself fuck it.
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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2018, 09:20:19 AM »
"Then again will these even be possible without drugs? Remember I'm about 6'0, and only weight 220 ish....most guys I know repping 405 on incline were all 240-250 at around that height. Is it possible I've just maxed out my strength for the amount of muscle I have"

Perhaps, #365 x 3 @ #220 is already a very big incline. You're probably at a point were you'll probably have to grind for years to see more improvement. The advice most pros would give you is either eat through your sticking point or drug through it.

The only other thing you might try is upping the frequency. It's like the old Norb Schemanshy advice of "If you want to press more, press more". Sometimes guys will put aside everything else, and go on a low rep, high volume approach for a long while. It might not get you to #405, but most I've seen try it that way gain at least a few pounds on the lift.

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2018, 09:23:11 AM »
Dear Flintstones,

Have you given any thought to the idea of reincarnation? It's a gamble, sure, but imagine coming back as someone genetically gifted enough to incline bench 405 lbs.  :o

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2018, 10:04:28 AM »
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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2018, 10:04:59 AM »
hello darling, my names Flintstones, I dont have a ride home but I can bench 405

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2018, 10:07:22 AM »
hello darling, my names Flintstones, I dont have a ride home but I can bench 405

Lol there is a good chance I make more money than you. I’m a private trainer in La. no boss...I have the dream job
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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2018, 10:08:52 AM »
Dear Flintstones,

Have you given any thought to the idea of reincarnation? It's a gamble, sure, but imagine coming back as someone genetically gifted enough to incline bench 405 lbs.  :o

I can already hit 405 on incline. . But it’s a grinder....I want to rep it out like the strongest pros without taking the drugs those guys do
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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2018, 10:10:24 AM »
You still 21?

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2018, 11:02:10 AM »
Is it possible to do this natural?

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2018, 11:05:23 AM »
Is it possible to do this natural?

Not without world class strength genetics.

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2018, 01:01:52 PM »
I can already hit 405 on incline. . But it’s a grinder....I want to rep it out like the strongest pros without taking the drugs those guys do
Any videos of you hitting 405 on incline?  That's pretty big weight.  Also, are you natty?

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2018, 01:16:42 PM »
You still 21?

HaHa.

He turned 21 for the 20th straight year

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2018, 01:53:09 PM »
look at the stuff Mcgarver was using for his strength levels  :D

to get an idea

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2018, 03:50:16 PM »
Basically I have this obsession with the incline bench. According to charles Poliquin

"The pressing angle of an incline bench press is more specific in terms of sporting movement due to the shoulder joint angle in relation to the trunk. Whether it is a punch delivered in boxing, the release of a shot put, or the push-off position in the short-track speed skating relay, you will notice that the upper arm is at a 45-degree angle upward in relation to the trunk. There are also many sporting movements where one pushes with the upper arm directly at 90 degrees to the trunk."

Plus its safer than the flat bench and you can't cheat.


I want to rep out 405 on incline for at least 3-4 reps. To me that's the sign of a legit strong guy. Once I hit that I will be content with my pursuit of strength. My current best is 365 for 3. Other than hopping on a bunch of drugs which I'd rather not do honestly, what is the best method to get there?

Then again will these even be possible without drugs? Remember I'm about 6'0, and only weight 220 ish....most guys I know repping 405 on incline were all 240-250 at around that height. Is it possible I've just maxed out my strength for the amount of muscle I have? From a health perspective, I don't want to gain 30 fucking pounds.

Wait until winter and then put on 20 lbs. Do it a few times to say you did it.

Unless you have to shed 340lb nfl guards for a living, its gonna be a pain to maintain that strength at 6' and be worth it. That is if you value being lean.

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2018, 03:59:31 PM »
I can already hit 405 on incline. . But it’s a grinder....I want to rep it out like the strongest pros without taking the drugs those guys do

Not possible.  Drugs and sheer bodyweight are what make what you wish "possible"; and even then, you have to ask yourself, how far are you willing to go?

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2018, 04:58:14 PM »
Basically I have this obsession with the incline bench. According to charles Poliquin

"The pressing angle of an incline bench press is more specific in terms of sporting movement due to the shoulder joint angle in relation to the trunk. Whether it is a punch delivered in boxing, the release of a shot put, or the push-off position in the short-track speed skating relay, you will notice that the upper arm is at a 45-degree angle upward in relation to the trunk. There are also many sporting movements where one pushes with the upper arm directly at 90 degrees to the trunk."

Plus its safer than the flat bench and you can't cheat.


I want to rep out 405 on incline for at least 3-4 reps. To me that's the sign of a legit strong guy. Once I hit that I will be content with my pursuit of strength. My current best is 365 for 3. Other than hopping on a bunch of drugs which I'd rather not do honestly, what is the best method to get there?

Then again will these even be possible without drugs? Remember I'm about 6'0, and only weight 220 ish....most guys I know repping 405 on incline were all 240-250 at around that height. Is it possible I've just maxed out my strength for the amount of muscle I have? From a health perspective, I don't want to gain 30 fucking pounds.

up the doses and eat tons of food

mass moves mass -

good luck

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2018, 05:53:09 PM »
Get up to Ronnie 320 and bench 405 for 10

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2018, 08:02:10 PM »
Weider principles brah.

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2018, 08:09:58 PM »
Lots of good knowledge in this thread. For once.

A 405 incline is seriously STRONG regardless of drug use or bodyweight.

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2018, 08:15:02 PM »
Must have a giant chest if you can put up 405.
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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2018, 08:24:39 PM »
Must have a giant chest if you can put up 405.

Nothing to really do with chest size

All in the triceps, back, technique,, etc

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2018, 08:13:33 PM »
Honestly man, of all the goals in life... incline benching 405 for reps has to be one of the most useless.  Make money, bang a hot broad, enjoy life.  Nobody with even half a brain gives a fat shit what anybody else lifts anyway.

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Re: program to get to mid 400's incline?
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2018, 08:29:00 PM »
Honestly man, of all the goals in life... incline benching 405 for reps has to be one of the most useless.  Make money, bang a hot broad, enjoy life.  Nobody with even half a brain gives a fat shit what anybody else lifts anyway.
Well you can argue if putting up this kind of weight consistently will develop massive pecs, this in turn will help out his personal training business because nobody wants to hire a trainer with a bird chest, also because of these huge pectorals he can post more shirtless photos on tinder thus getting him more bitches, he can also post videos of this impressive lift on instagram and youtube making gain more followers also giving him a boost in self confidence, so it may all be interrelated in a way. Or he could be a dude who puts up 400 but doesn't have a physique that looks like he puts up 400, thus none of the above things listed will end up happening.
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