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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #175 on: September 25, 2018, 04:28:22 PM »
I clicked on the first link, didn't see anything about death threats.  Didn't bother with the other two.

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #176 on: September 25, 2018, 04:29:07 PM »
I clicked on the first link, didn't see anything about death threats.  Didn't bother with the other two.
That's the problem. You guys see and believe what you want, unless it jives with what you're looking for.

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #177 on: September 25, 2018, 04:32:05 PM »
Was Andrea Cosigner/Constand a looker back in the day?











Looks like the guitarist from Queen. 

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #178 on: September 25, 2018, 04:33:17 PM »
According to his publicist, he was targeted because he was black ::)

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #179 on: September 25, 2018, 04:34:31 PM »
According to his publicist, he was targeted because he was really rich and famous

and black ::)
Fixed ;-)

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #180 on: September 25, 2018, 04:38:12 PM »
That's the problem. You guys see and believe what you want, unless it jives with what you're looking for.

As opposed to seeing death threats that are not listed in the links?   You made the claim, I asked for evidence.... nothing.

Oh well. 

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #181 on: September 25, 2018, 04:40:56 PM »
As opposed to seeing death threats that are not listed in the links?   You made the claim, I asked for evidence.... nothing.

Oh well. 
Here's something you may not understand so I'm going to explain it to you:

A prosecutable, real death threat: If Cosby's acquitted I'm going to kill the prosecutor.

A non-prosecutable, equally real threat to cause mayhem and chaos if cosby's acquitted: The streets gonna be packed AF if that rapist gets acquitted, because we won't be silenced and whoever acquits him gonna have to watch their backs!

The latter was all over social media at the time of his acquittal, in various forms. You can find it easily and the second link shows but a sample.

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #182 on: September 25, 2018, 04:42:18 PM »
Next you'll tell me there weren't days-long riots, burnings, lootings in Baltimore when Freddie Gray died or in Ferguson when Michael Brown's shooter wasn't charged. I have lots of video for that too, and yet no one spelled out their threats the way you would want them to in both cases.

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #183 on: September 25, 2018, 05:51:24 PM »
Here's something you may not understand so I'm going to explain it to you:

A prosecutable, real death threat: If Cosby's acquitted I'm going to kill the prosecutor.

A non-prosecutable, equally real threat to cause mayhem and chaos if cosby's acquitted: The streets gonna be packed AF if that rapist gets acquitted, because we won't be silenced and whoever acquits him gonna have to watch their backs!

The latter was all over social media at the time of his acquittal, in various forms. You can find it easily and the second link shows but a sample.

Translation :  Make a statement and when asked for evidence, when none is forthcoming, then simply claim that it is true because it is implied in the poster's own mind. 

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #184 on: September 25, 2018, 05:57:32 PM »
Why didn't they just draw a giraffe....



Well done!

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #185 on: September 25, 2018, 05:58:07 PM »
Translation :  Make a statement and when asked for evidence, when none is forthcoming, then simply claim that it is true because it is implied in the poster's own mind. 

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Nope, that's not what I said. Read it again.

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #186 on: September 25, 2018, 06:11:51 PM »
Oh, it's what you implied?

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #187 on: September 25, 2018, 06:14:07 PM »
Oh, it's what you implied?
Now we're getting somewhere.

You're looking for explicit. I'm giving you subtle.

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #188 on: September 25, 2018, 09:00:31 PM »
Andrea Costand, who continued social contact with Cosby long after the event, asked him for a letter of recommendation in his capacity as a member of the university's board of directors, and settled with him out of court for around $10,000,000.

This almost looks like blackmail. How the hell is this not considered in the case?  MeToo is a complete fucking joke, driven by social media, which is a moderate day Illness! 

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #189 on: September 25, 2018, 09:02:50 PM »
This almost looks like blackmail. How the hell is this not considered in the case?  MeToo is a complete fucking joke, driven by social media, which is a moderate day Illness! 
I agree.

He got railroaded, which is why the first trail collapsed. The second time they made sure to turn opinion against him by letting those other women testify even though they had nothing to do with this case and he was never convicted for their accusations because they were too old by that time. The fact that he paid her a huge settlement was not allowed to be mentioned in court...seems sketchy.

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #190 on: September 25, 2018, 09:14:22 PM »
I agree.

He got railroaded, which is why the first trail collapsed. The second time they made sure to turn opinion against him by letting those other women testify even though they had nothing to do with this case and he was never convicted for their accusations because they were too old by that time. The fact that he paid her a huge settlement was not allowed to be mentioned in court...seems sketchy.


Serious question here, I understand your reason for being bothered by this but did he drug and rape these women or was it all an elaborate witch hunt and Cosby was the patsy?

Or is this a perversion of justice because he had NDA and these women signed it, and he already "won" in court only to lose again.

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Re: cosby sentenced final
« Reply #191 on: September 25, 2018, 09:27:52 PM »

Serious question here, I understand your reason for being bothered by this but did he drug and rape these women or was it all an elaborate witch hunt and Cosby was the patsy?

Or is this a perversion of justice because he had NEW and these women signed it, and he already "won" in court only to lose again.
With Constand, the case was only possible because it fell narrowly within the statue of limitations and was soon to expire. It had been reviewed in the past and the DA hadn't filed charges, citing the lack of evidence and the fact that Cosby had settled with her out of court. Settlements happen all the time - it's the victim's way of saying they prefer money to justice.

The other women - and there's many - may well have all had sexual relationships with him. It's unknown with whom it was consensual and with whom it wasn't because they all claimed to be victims. However, none of them can explain why they didn't report it to the police at the time it happened. They say no one would've believed them. First of all, there's no way they can possibly know that, as it's pure speculation. But even if true, a paper trail would've existed which, taken in its entirety, would amount to a body of evidence establishing a pattern. There is no pattern, because there is no paper trail, no interviews, or arrest history, no affidavits, nothing. Why? The real reason is because they all were aspiring actresses and entertainers and traded sexual favors with Bill to move up in their industries. That has been established in a number of their cases; in the ones where it wasn't - because their careers went nowhere - they didn't report him, either, which is odd considering they didn't benefit from their acquaintance. More likely, they had consensual sex with him because he was a star and that was that. Before MeToo, that happened daily. It's not rape and it's not assault.

Did he ever assault and rape anyone? Sure, it's possible. But there's no proof, and that's not good enough to get a conviction. The burden of proof is meant to be high for a reason; you're not supposed to lock people up on hearsay or 30-50 year old unfounded recollections. The Constand case was a setup from the beginning, from her choice of lawyer (a celebrity ambulance chaser whose specialty is targeting famous  men) to the fact that she made a fortune in a settlement and remained in social contact with Bill after the alleged assault. None of it added up in the first trial, which is why the jury threw it out. This second one was a show trial, plain and simple. If he'd been acquitted, all of social media would've erupted claiming money buys freedom and justice doesn't apply to women, etc. Same as they're doing with Kavanaugh, again with no proof.

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Re: Bill Cosby - Guilty for Sexual Assault - 10 years in prison
« Reply #192 on: September 25, 2018, 10:15:13 PM »
I just can't understand how Bill Cosby couldn't get laid.

Did he really have to drug and rape?

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Re: Bill Cosby - Guilty for Sexual Assault - 10 years in prison
« Reply #193 on: September 25, 2018, 10:33:28 PM »
Celebrity inmates get to choose their prisons and are in protected custody from start to finish. He'll have color TV, a microwave, writing materials, a comfy bed, and lots of recreation time. Don't worry about millionaire Bill Cosby's incarceration. He'll probably be out in 6 months once his appeal for compassionate release due to advanced age and failing health gets approved.

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I'm sure Bill is getting an Emerson panel tv.

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Re: Bill Cosby - Guilty for Sexual Assault - 10 years in prison
« Reply #194 on: September 25, 2018, 11:00:38 PM »
I just can't understand how Bill Cosby couldn't get laid.

Did he really have to drug and rape?

I don't think it's about getting laid. Ted Bundy was a charasmatic guy who could have gotten laid as much as he wanted. Some people get wired wrong and it becomes not so much about sex but power, control etc.

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Re: Bill Cosby - Guilty for Sexual Assault - 10 years in prison
« Reply #195 on: September 25, 2018, 11:10:02 PM »
I just can't understand how Bill Cosby couldn't get laid.

Did he really have to drug and rape?
Despite his wealth I don't think women flocked to him. He had to bribe them with promises of career advancement, private acting lessons, and sometimes just plain money. This is from the testimony of almost every woman who reported him. Chris Farley was hugely popular and rich too, but in private he died with a prostitute in his expensive condo, high on heroin and cocaine. People overrate celebrities' abilities to get sex with beautiful women - it's not as easy as it looks, especially when their entire identity is wrapped up in their characters in films or TV and away from the cameras, they're basically nonpersons with zero personality (like Michael Jackson). Granted, if Bill wanted some ugly woman who was overweight and had no self esteem, he could've gotten any number of them. His wife, after all, was very homely looking but devoted and loyal. But Bill liked mostly young, attractive girls, and he enjoyed being a father figure to them. The problem is they didn't want to suck his dick, they just wanted his company and/or patronage in Hollywood. That's where the powerful sedatives came in.

Like I said in the other Cosby thread, no one is saying he's innocent or not a rapist. But his 'victims' benefited from the uneven power dynamic between them more or often than not. And not a single one reported him to the police, which itself is very telling. To do so would've meant cutting his support out of their lives.

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Re: Bill Cosby - Guilty for Sexual Assault - 10 years in prison
« Reply #196 on: September 26, 2018, 01:09:53 AM »
Hope he gets raped in prison. That fucker.

Someone would have to be pretty desperate to rape an over ripe prune.

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Re: Bill Cosby - Guilty for Sexual Assault - 10 years in prison
« Reply #197 on: September 26, 2018, 01:11:03 AM »
Celebrity inmates get to choose their prisons and are in protected custody from start to finish. He'll have color TV, a microwave, writing materials, a comfy bed, and lots of recreation time. Don't worry about millionaire Bill Cosby's incarceration. He'll probably be out in 6 months once his appeal for compassionate release due to advanced age and failing health gets approved.

Without a doubt.

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Re: Bill Cosby - Guilty for Sexual Assault - 10 years in prison
« Reply #198 on: September 26, 2018, 02:43:36 AM »
Despite his wealth I don't think women flocked to him. He had to bribe them with promises of career advancement, private acting lessons, and sometimes just plain money. This is from the testimony of almost every woman who reported him. Chris Farley was hugely popular and rich too, but in private he died with a prostitute in his expensive condo, high on heroin and cocaine. People overrate celebrities' abilities to get sex with beautiful women - it's not as easy as it looks, especially when their entire identity is wrapped up in their characters in films or TV and away from the cameras, they're basically nonpersons with zero personality (like Michael Jackson). Granted, if Bill wanted some ugly woman who was overweight and had no self esteem, he could've gotten any number of them. His wife, after all, was very homely looking but devoted and loyal. But Bill liked mostly young, attractive girls, and he enjoyed being a father figure to them. The problem is they didn't want to suck his dick, they just wanted his company and/or patronage in Hollywood. That's where the powerful sedatives came in.

Like I said in the other Cosby thread, no one is saying he's innocent or not a rapist. But his 'victims' benefited from the uneven power dynamic between them more or often than not. And not a single one reported him to the police, which itself is very telling. To do so would've meant cutting his support out of their lives.
Kwon3 you seem to be very wise.

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Re: Bill Cosby - Guilty for Sexual Assault - 10 years in prison
« Reply #199 on: September 26, 2018, 03:43:00 AM »
Kwon3 you seem to be very wise.

Narcissists like me tend to have a high opinion of themselves, and enjoy being told as much by others.  :D