Anyone a fan of the old UFC fights?

[Danimal77]

I've been going on a UFC binge lately. I started with UFC 1 from 1993 and am now up to UFC 23. It was so brutal up until they introduced all the new rules (no headbutting, no kicking someone when they are down, no rabbid punches, no kidney strikes, no hair pulling, no grabbing the fence, have to wear gloves, 5 minute rounds, restarting the matches on their feet, the ref can stop the fight at the first drop of blood, light weight, middle weight, heavy weight classes, etc). There was so much more action in the early UFC's. Was way more exciting. Also the commentators were great (Bruce Beck, Jeff Blatnick, Don the Dragon Wilson and the introduction of Mike Golberg). Any memorable matches for you guys from 1993 to 2001?

[Kwon]

I've been going on a UFC binge lately. I started with UFC 1 from 1993 and am now up to UFC 23. It was so brutal up until they introduced all the new rules (no headbutting, no kicking someone when they are down, no rabbid punches, no kidney strikes, no hair pulling, no grabbing the fence, 5 minute rounds, restarting the matches on their feet, the ref can stop the fight at the first drop of blood, light weight, middle weight, heavy weight classes, etc). There was so much more action in the early UFC's. Was way more exciting. Also the commentators were great (Bruce Beck, Jeff Blatnick, Don the Dragon Wilson and the introduction of Mike Golberg). Any memorable matches for you guys from 1993 to 2001?

Gotta love Patrick Smith VS Scott "Ninja" Morris.


Talk about sweet elbows to the face.





Also love Gary "Big Daddy" Goodridge VS Paul Herrera, Elbows from crucifix

[Danimal77]

Gotta love Patrick Smith VS Scott "Ninja" Morris.


Talk about sweet elbows to the face.





Also love Gary "Big Daddy" Goodridge VS Paul Herrera, Elbows from crucifix

Yup. Also the first Kimo fight where he almost beat Royce and Royce couldn't even compete in the final match (when they had the tournament system).

Goodridge never displayed the same level of skill after that first match with his fury of elbows to the side of Herrera's head. Goodridge became a jobber to guys like Don Frye and Mark Coleman. Speaking of Coleman, it was great when he got knocked out with a kick to the faceby Pete Williams.

[robcguns]

Not a fan of watching any sport as I find them all so fucking boring but I did used to like watching tank abbot fights.I love watching a street brawler fight.

[Danimal77]

Not a fan of watching any sport as I find them all so fucking boring but I did used to like watching tank abbot fights.I love watching a street brawler fight.

You find sports boring to watch yet you're on a bodybuilding site where guys stand in a line and pose? That's exciting to you?

[Kwon]

You find sports boring to watch yet you're on a bodybuilding site where guys stand in a line and pose? That's exciting to you?

Rob probably joined Getbig back in the day in hopes regarding training and what to use, aka Regarding his own trainings sake, and not so much for the sake of the thong-warriors battling on stage.

When we started training, did we wonder what those thongwarriors did to get in that shape? sure.

[Agnostic007]

I was a fan of UFC from the early days. Used to watch all the matches. Haven't watched a match live in the last 5 years. Just got old and too regulated

[peroni]

Gotta love Patrick Smith VS Scott "Ninja" Morris.


Talk about sweet elbows to the face.





Also love Gary "Big Daddy" Goodridge VS Paul Herrera, Elbows from crucifix

I always thought the Herrera bout was fixed. It also looks like he's holding back quite a bit with the elbows

[NotMrAverage]

The old ufc days were just awesome! I remember when Pat Smith elbowed THE SHIT out of Scott NINJA Morris like yesterday! Also Tank Abbots debut fight! I would love to see these hardcore rules apply again.

[Royalty]

I've been going on a UFC binge lately. I started with UFC 1 from 1993 and am now up to UFC 23. It was so brutal up until they introduced all the new rules (no headbutting, no kicking someone when they are down, no rabbid punches, no kidney strikes, no hair pulling, no grabbing the fence, have to wear gloves, 5 minute rounds, restarting the matches on their feet, the ref can stop the fight at the first drop of blood, light weight, middle weight, heavy weight classes, etc). There was so much more action in the early UFC's. Was way more exciting. Also the commentators were great (Bruce Beck, Jeff Blatnick, Don the Dragon Wilson and the introduction of Mike Golberg). Any memorable matches for you guys from 1993 to 2001?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=644927.0

[Danimal77]

I always thought the Herrera bout was fixed. It also looks like he's holding back quite a bit with the elbows

No it was legit. That said there were quite a few fixed fights back then. They occured mostly when there were tournament events where the fighters had to fight 3 times in 1 night and so they'd have favorite face either easier jobber opponents or guys who would tap out for no apparent reason so that the favorite wouldnt have to expend as much energy early on in the tournament.

[NotMrAverage]

I always thought the Herrera bout was fixed. It also looks like he's holding back quite a bit with the elbows

Maybe youre right? The way he went down was very fictional! Never seen it since. The elbows are fucking hardcore though!

[Danimal77]

Surprised there aren't more UFC/MMA fans on here? Do you guys only like bodybuilding?

[oldtimer1]

I started taking BJJ lessons soon after UFC 1. There were only three dojo in the US  at the time. California, NJ and NY.

[robcguns]

You find sports boring to watch yet you're on a bodybuilding site where guys stand in a line and pose? That's exciting to you?

Don’t watch bodybuilding shows either,but I will say I am much more impressed by bodybuilders doing what they do to look like freaks than someone who can throw a football,hit a baseball,dunk a basketball etc... I like this forum cause it’s fun,funny,occasionally I learn stuff,cool to chat with other like minded individuals as well as those not like minded etc...

[Danimal77]

I started taking BJJ lessons soon after UFC 1. There were only three dojo in the US  at the time. California, NJ and NY.

The dojo in California was being run by the Gracies at that time. It was in Hollywood.

[oldtimer1]

Rorion Gracie if I have the spelling right came to California. He was teaching out of a garage. He challenged division I wrestlers and beat them easily. They never knew about the arsenal of submissions that he had. His reputation spread fast. If I got the story straight that is where he met Craig Kukuk who was a wrestler. On a side note I don't think Craig's name is not his original name. Craig went on to become the first American to earn a Black belt in BJJ. He teamed up with Renzo Gracie and opened a school in Red Bank, NJ and in NY. Rorion created the UFC and got his little brother Royce to fight in it. Now BJJ dojos are everywhere across the US. Renzo and Craig had a falling out. I believe Renzo was resentful of how much money Craig was making and accused him of ripping him off in sales of their crazy successful video tape that sold for $400 bucks at the time. The only other instruction was Gracie tapes and they were horrible teaching you such things as escapes from the guard that put you right into a triangle submission if used. Craig's and Renzo tapes were the cutting edge real deal at the time.

[Danimal77]

Rorion Gracie if I have the spelling right came to California. He was teaching out of a garage. He challenged division I wrestlers and beat them easily. They never new about the arsenal of submissions that he had. His reputation spread fast. If I got the story straight that is where he met Craig Kukuk who was a wrestler. On a side note I don't think Craig's name is not his original name. Craig went on to become the first American to earn a Black belt in BJJ. He teamed up with Renzo Gracie and opened a school in Red Bank, NJ and in NY. Rorion created the UFC and got his little brother Royce to fight in it. Now BJJ dojos are everywhere across the US. Renzo and Craig had a falling out. I believe Renzo was resentful of how much money Craig was making and accused him of ripping him off in sales of their crazy successful video tape that sold for $400 bucks at the time. The only other instruction was Gracie tapes and they were horrible teaching you such things as escapes from the guard that put you right into a triangle submission if used. Craig's and Renzo tapes were the cutting edge real deal at the time.

Cool history lesson man. I knew some of that, but there's a lot that I didn't know. No one thought that Royce would stand a chance again stand up martial art fighters in the first UFC. He shocked them all. The guy weighed 176 pounds and was able to shoot these much larger guys, was able to get punched in the face and still win the fight while LYING ON HIS BACK. Pretty crazy stuff back then. Little did people know that everyone within the next 3-4 years or so would NEED to know how to do this style of fighting in order to be successful as a mixed martial artist. What's cool is that the wrestlers, grappler's and submission artists would need to start learning how to strike from their feet to be competitive as well. Did you know that it was Jeff Blatnick that was the first commentator to ever coin the term mixed martial arts and because of him (he was promoted to commissioner of representing the UFC), as well as Big John McCarthy, we had all the rules introduced back in the late 90's, which they still use today.

[oldtimer1]

MMA has gone through so many changes. In the early UFC no one knew how to do various arm bars, leg bars, reversals and chokes. No one knew counters. Skinny Royce had a field day with his superior wrestling ability.

When I started BBJ the class was filled with black belts from other arts like Karate. It seemed to follow the same pattern. They would come in with their black belt and after being submitted repeatedly they would be in the next class with a white belt.

UFC when through so many changes. Jui Jitsu guys ruled early on. Then Division I wrestlers with their ground and pound. Now the guys are so good at avoiding take downs and getting back up back up that strikers are ruling the day. You really need a complete game today.  

[luc]

The Gracies should've accepted Karelin in the first UFC. The legend of Royce would've never been created 

[oldtimer1]

The Gracies should've accepted Karelin in the first UFC. The legend of Royce would've never been created 

Maybe truth in that. His ground and pound would have been hard to defend even for a grappler as skilled as Royce. No way for those guys to avoid having Karelin mounted and pounding the crap out them.