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how would anyone know "what's in his heart"

what does that even mean?

what does that mean to you?

So if you (or Agnostic) don’t know who are you too pass judgement on me?

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So if you (or Agnostic) don’t know who are you too pass judgement on me?

They will know them by their fruits.... and of course their is Matthew 25, sheep and the goat parable. You got goat all over your Coach. Read that chapter and get back to me.

"But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will tell those on his right hand, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.’

“Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?’

“The King will answer them, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ Then he will say also to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you didn’t give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me in; naked, and you didn’t clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’

“Then they will also answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn’t help you?’

“Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you didn’t do it to one of the least of these, you didn’t do it to me.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

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They will know them by their fruits.... and of course their is Matthew 25, sheep and the goat parable. You got goat all over your Coach. Read that chapter and get back to me.

"But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will tell those on his right hand, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.’

“Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?’

“The King will answer them, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ Then he will say also to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you didn’t give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me in; naked, and you didn’t clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’

“Then they will also answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn’t help you?’

“Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you didn’t do it to one of the least of these, you didn’t do it to me.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

You are so full of crap.  Stop trying to quote the Bible.  You don't know Coach.  You are in no position to judge him.  And you are being a total hypocrite.

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You are so full of crap.  Stop trying to quote the Bible.  You don't know Coach.  You are in no position to judge him.  And you are being a total hypocrite.

Of your entire statement, none of it rings true. I have seen what Coach has written for years. I probably know him better than some of his clients. And comparing him to what the bible says is a perfectly legit way to judge him. He is no Christ like Christian. Not even close

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Of your entire statement, none of it rings true. I have seen what Coach has written for years. I probably know him better than some of his clients. And comparing him to what the bible says is a perfectly legit way to judge him. He is no Christ like Christian. Not even close

So let me get this straight:  you have been reading comments on a message board for years and because of that you know what's in that person's heart, what kind of relationship he has with God, etc.  Ridiculous.  I would expect that kind of garbage from the Village Idiot. 

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So let me get this straight:  you have been reading comments on a message board for years and because of that you know what's in that person's heart, what kind of relationship he has with God, etc.  Ridiculous.  I would expect that kind of garbage from the Village Idiot. 


Let me get this straight, for arguments sake.. If you were to follow a supremacists blog, read time and again a person on that blog talk about burning crosses, beating up minorities and how they are sub human... it would be impossible for you because you "don't know what's in their heart or their relationship with God etc"  to determine that the writer is a racists? give me a friggin break

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So if you (or Agnostic) don’t know who are you too pass judgement on me?

By that same standard who are you to pass judgement on liberals and claim they can't be Christians?

Why do so called Christians always get tripped up by hypocrisy so easily?    ::)

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Let me get this straight, for arguments sake.. If you were to follow a supremacists blog, read time and again a person on that blog talk about burning crosses, beating up minorities and how they are sub human... it would be impossible for you because you "don't know what's in their heart or their relationship with God etc"  to determine that the writer is a racists? give me a friggin break

I think you can conclude that a person belonging to Stormfront who repeatedly posts overtly racist things is probably a racist.  But that's not what we're talking about.  Your hypothetical is pretty darn offensive.  Why mention Coach in the same breath as some white supremacist.  You wouldn't like it if someone used a NAMBLA hypothetical to talk about your hypocrisy. 

We're talking about you judging what is in Coach's heart regarding his faith and his personal relationship with God.  No, reading his posts on this website do not give you enough information to categorically tell him he isn't a Christian. 

And frankly, you really don't know much about being a Christian.  You don't believe in God, you don't believe in the Bible, and you do nothing more than cherry pick stuff you find on Google. 

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Apparently the Chaplain has rescinded his resignation

Maybe he looked into the heart of Paul Ryan and realized he was a lying douche

Although all Ryan needs is one confession and some penance and he's right back in line for purgatory when he dies

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So let me get this straight:  you have been reading comments on a message board for years and because of that you know what's in that person's heart, what kind of relationship he has with God, etc.  Ridiculous.  I would expect that kind of garbage from the Village Idiot. 

even better, guys like you and our idiot phony "coach" have said who can who can't be real christian's without actually knowing "what's in their heart"...again whatever the fuck that means


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looks like Paul Ryan has accepted the rescission of the resignation letter

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James Madison, the father of the Constitution and primary author of the First Amendment, was also a member of the House committee that chose the first chaplain. But years later, he concluded that Congress had made a mistake. In an essay that scholars believe was written between 1820 and 1830, Madison asked: “Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom?” His answer: “In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-do-we-need-a-chaplain-in-congress-anyway/2018/05/01/8ca98862-4d75-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?utm_term=.833b198affb0

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By that same standard who are you to pass judgement on liberals and claim they can't be Christians?

Why do so called Christians always get tripped up by hypocrisy so easily?    ::)

But hypocrisy doesn't apply to them

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But hypocrisy doesn't apply to them

Christianity depends on a disconnection from reality in order to exist.  So it's really no surprise.