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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2018, 09:55:44 AM »
explain to me how no regulations is better than some?

Obama's failed deal was paying Iran billions of dollars.   Europissants loved it because they wanted to do business w the ayatollah. 


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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2018, 09:56:04 AM »
reneged on the US promise not Obama's

and now the country is safer ?

Who approved the deal?
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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2018, 09:58:39 AM »
Who approved the deal?

You must have have thought Obama was a king

Makes sense since you think Trump is now a king

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2018, 10:00:08 AM »
Obama's failed deal was paying Iran billions of dollars.   Europissants loved it because they wanted to do business w the ayatollah. 



paying? you mean releasing frozen assets? the only paying done was the 40 billion iran paid boeing and aribus

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2018, 10:04:00 AM »
Trump Was Right to Terminate the Iran Deal
The National Interest ^ | May 9, 2018 | Peter Brookes
Posted on 5/9/2018, 12:51:37 PM by Yo-Yo

The nuclear deal hasn’t reduced Tehran’s threat to international security and stability.

Highly controversial? Yes. But President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)—also known as the Iran nuclear deal—was totally justifiable.

The deal was a well-intentioned effort by the Obama administration to limit Iran’s nuclear program—including its nuclear weapons program. But from the beginning, there were a number of reasonable concerns about the JCPOA.

How About That Sunset?

One of the most problematic provisions of the JCPOA is that it ends —or “sunsets”—after a specified period of time. At the fifteen-year mark of the agreement, Iran is no longer bound by the JCPOA.

The fact is that Tehran didn’t sign up to limit its nuclear-power (or weapons) program forever, but rather for just a period before being unbridled from the JCPOA. The JCPOA essentially kicks the can down the road to the next president after Trump.

Iran needs to sign up to limiting its nuclear activities in perpetuity.

Going Ballistic

Despite early calls for it to do so, the JCPOA doesn’t fully address Iran’s ballistic-missile program. Ballistic missiles are a common delivery system for weapons of mass destruction, especially nuclear weapons.

Since Iran lacks a highly capable global—or regional—Navy or Air Force, Tehran would have to rely on its ballistic-missile arsenal to deliver nuclear weapons against any of its self-perceived enemies, including the United States.

The concerns over Iran’s missile program is evident in UN Security Council Resolutions 1929 and 2231, which attempt to limit Iran’s activities involving nuclear-capable ballistic missiles. Tehran has been accused of violating both resolutions.

Restrictions on ballistic missiles must be part of any new, comprehensive agreement.

Hide-and-Seek

Another troubling aspect of the JCPOA is that the United Nations’ International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors aren’t allowed to check Iranian military sites. This is beyond comprehension.

Since nations would likely—even probably—develop nuclear weapons within the context of a military program, it is only reasonable to expect that inspectors would be able to visit military sites where illicit nuclear activities may be taking place.

Verification of compliance is essential. Iran historically hasn’t been fully forthcoming on its nuclear activities, including its weapons program—a fact recently buttressed by revelations uncovered by Israeli intelligence operations. Tehran may still be hiding unauthorized activities beyond the inspectors’ purview.

Comprehensive, no-notice inspections need to be part of any future agreement.

Bad Behavior

While admittedly not part of the JCPOA, Iran’s destabilizing activities abroad are deeply troubling. The nuclear deal arguably hasn’t appreciably reduced Iran’s threat to international security and stability.

But Iran has become more fully integrated into the international economy with the lifting of punitive economic sanctions under the JCPOA. This has provided it with revenue streams that are helping fund its aggressive adventurism in the region.

Iran is supporting the ruthless regime in Syria in the bloody civil war there. Tehran is also aiding the Houthis rebels in Yemen, allowing them to indiscriminately rain missiles down on Saudi Arabia.

Iran, of course, is an active state sponsor of terrorism, supporting the likes of Hezbollah and Hamas, according to the U.S. government. In Afghanistan, it’s supporting some elements of the Taliban, continuing to destabilize the long, war-torn country.

Bottom-line: Iran is very dangerous.

Despite the American withdrawal from the JCPOA, there is still time for diplomacy while the U.S. economic sanctions—that will go after a broad range of Iranian economic activities—are reimposed.

While a parade of European leaders made their way recently to Washington to preserve the JCPOA, these same senior officials could now engage in the diplomatic heavy lifting of getting new negotiations started, especially considering their less-hostile relations with Iran.

President Trump made the right call. For the sake of American and international security and interests, a new nuclear deal is needed—one that addresses, at a minimum, the glaring flaws in the current JCPOA.

The first step toward a new agreement is the recent U.S. withdrawal from the nuclear deal. The next thoughtful step is for Iran to willingly come back to the table to tackle these fundamental and reasonable concerns.

Dr. Peter Brookes is a Heritage Foundation senior fellow and a former deputy assistant secretary of defense.

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2018, 10:11:58 AM »
You must have have thought Obama was a king

Makes sense since you think Trump is now a king

So he didn't have any power and was forced to allow the US to join? Just like he didn't know about any pallets of unmarked cash.
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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2018, 10:57:39 AM »
So he didn't have any power and was forced to allow the US to join? Just like he didn't know about any pallets of unmarked cash.

Obama represents the US just like Trump represents the US

both of them occupied the office of POTUS

they are not kings

Still haven't seen anyone who supports this move explain how it makes us safer

I'm sure there must be some way that allowing Iran to get nukes sooner rather than later somehow makes us all safer but I haven't quite figured it out yet.



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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2018, 11:07:45 AM »
Obama's failed deal was paying Iran billions of dollars.   Europissants loved it because they wanted to do business w the ayatollah.


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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2018, 12:52:01 PM »
The Gay Muslim Hussien can now concentrate on building up ISIS again
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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2018, 01:03:03 PM »

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2018, 01:43:34 PM »
I wonder why this deal wasn't a treaty instead?


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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2018, 01:44:05 PM »
Obama represents the US just like Trump represents the US


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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2018, 01:51:48 PM »
the US doesnt believe in treaties so why does it matter ?
Over your head.

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2018, 02:08:51 PM »
The Gay Muslim Hussien can now concentrate on building up ISIS again

3 lies in 12 words.. might be a new record for you.

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2018, 03:06:45 PM »

The Gay Muslim Hussien can now concentrate on building up ISIS again

3 lies in 12 words.. might be a new record for you.

Didn't Obama himself admit to experimenting with same sex relationships in the past?

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2018, 03:19:46 PM »
3 lies in 12 words.. might be a new record for you.


Didn't Obama himself admit to experimenting with same sex relationships in the past?

LOL - only in yours and 333's dreams

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2018, 03:24:16 PM »
LOL - only in yours and 333's dreams

Okay.  So no, Obama didn't admit to that?

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2018, 03:25:26 PM »
LOL - only in yours and 333's dreams

False - Obama said he wanted to have a gay hook up w his professor - which is still dicey

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2018, 03:34:40 PM »
3 lies in 12 words.. might be a new record for you.


Didn't Obama himself admit to experimenting with same sex relationships in the past?

wouldn't be hard to find that on the net... did you find anything?

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2018, 03:41:19 PM »
wouldn't be hard to find that on the net... did you find anything?

Thought it was in his latest Biography, which I have not read nor will I ever read.  Did you read it?

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2018, 03:43:40 PM »
Thought it was in his latest Biography, which I have not read nor will I ever read.  Did you read it?

his latest biography?

what's the title?

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Re: Trump says US with withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2018, 03:45:47 PM »
Thought it was in his latest Biography, which I have not read nor will I ever read.  Did you read it?

“He was a wonderful guy,” said Obama. “He was the first openly gay professor that I had ever come into contact with, or openly gay person of authority that I had come in contact with… just his comfort in his own skin and the friendship we developed helped to educate me on a number of these issues.”

In 2012, Goldyn told BuzzFeed that as a student Obama “talked to me, he hung around with me, he wanted to learn from me. He was clearly not gay. But he thought I was somebody unusual and somebody he had something to learn from.”