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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #100 on: May 22, 2018, 04:07:46 PM »
No you were not "talking" to anyone.  You were encouraging the board tale spinner to launch off on other asinine claims and stories.

ESfitness is someone. I was responding to his post. If it encourages him to spin tales, make claims or tell stories, that's fine with me.  :)

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #101 on: May 22, 2018, 09:54:12 PM »
No you were not "talking" to anyone.  You were encouraging the board tale spinner to launch off on other asinine claims and stories.

Asinine claims and stories about what, exactly? When I startes training? You sound like a cryin little butthurt sissy.

So, when did you first start training? It's interesting that you studied anabolic steroids at such a young age. Did you find out about them on your own or did someone mentor you?
Saw bodybuilding on tv for the first time when I was 4 and wanted to be what I saw on tv. Years went by and learned you got like that by lifting weights. Wasn't allowed to workout till I was 14 so made sure I hit the ground running my 14th birthday. Quickly learned not only do you need to "work out"" but steroids are required as well, so read everything I could. Then with the internet I had access to guys like Will Brink, Pat Arnold, Dan Duchaine, & a hand full of others. The idea of a steroid mentor is ridiculous. I have a memory that records everything I read/see/hear like a video tape. I found out what was available in Mexico and for how much so I went down and smuggled to the s*** across when I was 16 over the course of a few weekends and started my first cycle on my 17th birthday. Found out insulin was OTC so I picked up a bottle and ask around however back then either nobody knew how to use it or if they did babe weren't going to tell some 17 year old kid(Duchaine Had already passed. Only met him twice) so came right out and asked Nasser one day after telling him what I was doing at the time and that I had already purchased the bottle of insulin and I couldn't find any dosing guidelines anywhere and was going to try it no matter what and got a basic rundown. Did the same with milos without mentioning I'd already spoken with nasser and said nearly identical "advice". That was that.

Anything I learned *I* learned. I wasn't "taught" or repeating what anybody told me to. I'd read something then form a hypothesis, and I would try it out, usually on myself (also coached teammates. Wrestling mostly, also baseball and football), compare results, compared notes and learn from there. Nobody "mentored" me. I had questions not many people had the answers to so I had to figure a lot out on my own. This was back when very few people or even going over 1000mg testosterone per week, much less 2 or 4o
 Or even 5k and most, not just many but nearly everybody believed you would die from even though most miniscule miscalculations mismeasurements when it came to insulin and hardly anybody spoke from first-hand experience. Most, even still today, especially here, just repeat shit they "heard" about other people doing.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #102 on: May 23, 2018, 05:14:29 AM »
What was the basic rundown?

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« Reply #103 on: May 23, 2018, 07:40:37 AM »
Asinine claims and stories about what, exactly? When I startes training? sound like a cryin little butthurt sissy.
Saw bodybuilding on tv for the first time when I was 4 and wanted to be what I saw on tv. Years went by and learned you got like that by lifting weights. Wasn't allowed to workout till I was 14 so made sure I hit the ground running my 14th birthday. Quickly learned not only do you need to "work out"" but steroids are required as well, so read everything I could. Then with the internet I had access to guys like Will Brink, Pat Arnold, Dan Duchaine, & a hand full of others. The idea of a steroid mentor is ridiculous. I have a memory that records everything I read/see/hear like a video tape. I found out what was available in Mexico and for how much so I went down and smuggled to the s*** across when I was 16 over the course of a few weekends and started my first cycle on my 17th birthday. Found out insulin was OTC so I picked up a bottle and ask around however back then either nobody knew how to use it or if they did babe weren't going to tell some 17 year old kid(Duchaine. Had already passed. Only met him twice) so came right out and asked Nasser one day after telling him what I was doing at the time and that I had already purchased the bottle of insulin and I couldn't find any dosing guidelines anywhere and was going to try it no matter what and got a basic rundown. Did the same with milos without mentioning I'd already spoken with nasser and said nearly identical "advice". That was that.

Half of anything you post is over exaggerated blatant bullshit.

Despite being schooled by experts since you were 14 you still gave yourself abscesses from your dirty gear.   Doesn't sound like you learned too much.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #104 on: May 23, 2018, 11:25:27 AM »
What was the basic rundown?

Start with low.doses 2-3iu post workout and 20g (juice) per iu
 Drink half right after and sip the rest and go from there. For example a 5iu shot post workout with 100g carbs (grape juice at the time.. I mixed it with PhosphagenHP or Cell Tech). Don't recall being told to avoid fats or any mention of protein or aminos. Just.basic shit so i wouldnt go into hypo or die.

I got used to how insulin worked and will hypoglycemia felt like and built up to using a big dose(15-18iu) first thing in the morning and a big toast post workout along with a smaller dose(5-8iu) during the day and a medium dose (10-14iu) before bed.

Morning and post workout was usually 1.5-2boxes of mac & cheese w/1/4-1/2gal milk or a box of Hamburger Helper with 1.5 to 2 pounds of ground beef. Medium dose was with 1-2 10pc chicken tenders from.burger king & a vanilla shake. Before bed was 4-8 Eggos with butter, covered with cinnamon and sugar and maple syrup with I'm about a quarter gallon of milk.

Usually waited 40-45mins post injection to eat because I'd be in moderate hypoglycemia and hungry as fuck.

Overtime realized I was taking in way too much fat and not enough protein. Would've been better off keeping it simple and drinking my meals to keep carbohydrates at about 5 grams per unit and taking in Whey concentrate and aminos throughout the day.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #105 on: May 23, 2018, 11:31:13 AM »
Half of anything you post is over exaggerated blatant bullshit.

Despite being schooled by experts since you were 14 you still gave yourself abscesses from your dirty gear.   Doesn't sound like you learned too much.

Your stick is a little old. It's been over 20 years now and you little cry babies have yet to point out what I said or say isn't true. And far as the "dirty gear", I've been in business for a long long time and have yet to have ANY customers with infections. If my gear was dirty I wouldn't have the same guys coming back month after month, year after year and bringing along with them new customers.

Considering the thousands of injections I've add over the past 20 + years I've had infections from 2 anabolics. Testoprim-D in 2001,& Sciroxx Deca in 2017. Any infections from B12 earlier this year... A WATER BASED injectable from Cancun 3yrs ago.

You people embarrass yourselves with your little arguments and claim

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #106 on: May 23, 2018, 11:54:44 AM »
Interesting stuff es

Thanks for sharing bro

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« Reply #107 on: May 23, 2018, 04:59:40 PM »
Asinine claims and stories about what, exactly? When I startes training? You sound like a cryin little butthurt sissy.
Saw bodybuilding on tv for the first time when I was 4 and wanted to be what I saw on tv. Years went by and learned you got like that by lifting weights. Wasn't allowed to workout till I was 14 so made sure I hit the ground running my 14th birthday. Quickly learned not only do you need to "work out"" but steroids are required as well, so read everything I could. Then with the internet I had access to guys like Will Brink, Pat Arnold, Dan Duchaine, & a hand full of others. The idea of a steroid mentor is ridiculous. I have a memory that records everything I read/see/hear like a video tape. I found out what was available in Mexico and for how much so I went down and smuggled to the s*** across when I was 16 over the course of a few weekends and started my first cycle on my 17th birthday. Found out insulin was OTC so I picked up a bottle and ask around however back then either nobody knew how to use it or if they did babe weren't going to tell some 17 year old kid(Duchaine Had already passed. Only met him twice) so came right out and asked Nasser one day after telling him what I was doing at the time and that I had already purchased the bottle of insulin and I couldn't find any dosing guidelines anywhere and was going to try it no matter what and got a basic rundown. Did the same with milos without mentioning I'd already spoken with nasser and said nearly identical "advice". That was that.

Anything I learned *I* learned. I wasn't "taught" or repeating what anybody told me to. I'd read something then form a hypothesis, and I would try it out, usually on myself (also coached teammates. Wrestling mostly, also baseball and football), compare results, compared notes and learn from there. Nobody "mentored" me. I had questions not many people had the answers to so I had to figure a lot out on my own. This was back when very few people or even going over 1000mg testosterone per week, much less 2 or 4o
 Or even 5k and most, not just many but nearly everybody believed you would die from even though most miniscule miscalculations mismeasurements when it came to insulin and hardly anybody spoke from first-hand experience. Most, even still today, especially here, just repeat shit they "heard" about other people doing.

You were a confident, aggressive and inventive teenager. I suspect that hasn't changed much. I also think you've been fairly lucky.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #108 on: May 23, 2018, 06:40:18 PM »
I am this close to starting HRT. I have contacted a supplier with a decent (if overpriced) supply system. I am about to request a test, and I think it will be low/normal. It will probably be low enough to qualify for this testosterone mill. But who wants to pin themselves every week for the rest of their late adult years? I know it will be a big mental health boost, but at what cost? Plus the whole hemocrit dilemma.

If its the frequent pinning that is bothering you then you can request the Testosterone Unecanoate ester (brand name Nebido) which has a half life of 3 months.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #109 on: May 24, 2018, 03:47:28 AM »
and most, not just many but nearly everybody believed you would die from even though most miniscule miscalculations mismeasurements when it came to insulin and hardly anybody spoke from first-hand experience. Most, even still today, especially here, just repeat shit they "heard" about other people doing.

People still think it's easy to die from it. It's not easy at all. It should be respected though as it can catch you off-guard every now and then.

I've purposely induced hypoglycemia with it for various reasons. I've taken 25iu Humalog and 30iu Lantus and sat for about an hour waiting for the crash. Last time I got so weak I could hardly stand up to pick out my food from the fridge 5 feet away Lol.

I would like to sample these
https://www.instagram.com/p/BiUvWPlHsfX/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=809livwkm6qa

Tresiba and Fiasp

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #110 on: May 24, 2018, 03:56:10 AM »
to find tresiba and fiasp you need to find a type I friend.

anybody here know about SGLT1 carrier for glucose (intestine-> blood)

According to science (in normal ppl), this carrier prevents (because its limited in number) uptake of more than 60gr/carbs per hour

There is no litterature on any possible upregulation of sglt-carriers....

just another tidbit in the equation..

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #111 on: May 25, 2018, 01:35:18 AM »
ESfitness is someone. I was responding to his post. If it encourages him to spin tales, make claims or tell stories, that's fine with me.  :)

Count me as a fan of ESF. He livens up this place and has a lot of experiences to share even if embellished. Don't get why some get so bent out of shape and take it all so seriously. He doesn't attack anyone unless someone starts up with him.

He's made it abundantly clear that he does not take kindly to disrespect.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #112 on: May 25, 2018, 02:25:52 AM »
People still think it's easy to die from it. It's not easy at all. It should be respected though as it can catch you off-guard every now and then.

I've purposely induced hypoglycemia with it for various reasons. I've taken 25iu Humalog and 30iu Lantus and sat for about an hour waiting for the crash. Last time I got so weak I could hardly stand up to pick out my food from the fridge 5 feet away Lol.

I would like to sample these
https://www.instagram.com/p/BiUvWPlHsfX/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=809livwkm6qa

Tresiba and Fiasp


My friend tried to commit suicide and wanted to do it as gently, painlessly and "cleanly" as possible. He fasted for one day because he wanted to be sure his bowels were empty and took a thorough shower on the night of his planned death. He made sure he had clean bed sheets and that his a/c was on max power. It gets hot in Hawaii and he wanted to minimize the stink if it should take a some days before his body is discovered. He picked a day where he was 3 days late on the rent. He's always on time and hoped that by being late his landlord would come looking for him.

So his death protocol began with taking about ten sleeping pills. Not so much to poison himself but so that he would not have any issues going to sleep. He felt that worrying might keep him up. He then injected a vial of Humulin R. 3ml in each glute and 2ml in each delt. Worried that he might be discovered before complete death and would have to live with brain damage he also wrapped a plastic bag over his head and use some elastic around his neck for a tight fit. His plan was to suffocate to death after he passed out "just to be sure". He didn't put on the plastic bag immediately but waited until he started to go hypo. He wanted to be unconscious before he started suffocating. I can understand that.

Anyway, his timing was off and was still conscious and the feeling of suffocating was just too much. He ripped off the plastic bag gasping for air and just said "screw it". The suffocating part just spoiled everything. The plan was to drift blissfully into unconsciousness and then suffocate to death. No worrying about lingering and just going into a coma if the insulin wasn't enough.

Anyway, still functional even though he was going through the profuse sweating phase, he rushed to the kitchen and dumped scoops of sugar into a half drunk carton of apple juice and downed it. He then opened his pantry and took out a box of Captain Crunch but then put this back and got the Frosted Flakes instead. He pour a generous portion of sugar on the cereal and mixed it with chocolate milk. Always prefered chocolate milk from a carton for his cereal. He said he started to feel a lot better pretty
quick. He then started munching M&Ms watching TV. He then remember something and took his M&Ms along with more juice with about a cup of sugar mixed in and got in his car. He drove back to the closed Pizza Hut that he had a part time job with (he worked security full time) and went in back to the trash area where he dumped all his gear stashed in a garbage bag. Got to have your gear if you're going to live.

When he got home, he just went to sleep and is still alive but not quite well. He still thinks about offing himself but just can't think of a good way to do it. Doesn't want to leave a mess that guns or jumping out of a building would leave and doesn't know enough about the proper drugs and combos to use. Also, as he frankly told me, "It's not as easy as you think to just kill yourself. It goes against your nature and is a big step to take." That comment kind of cracked me up.

Anyway, what is a vial of Humulin R? A thousand units? That didn't do it and he said the hypo wasn't anything worse than he's experienced before. You get a lot of warning signs before you pass out. I'm sure if he didn't do the plastic bag over the head and just take the vial, especially after a 24+ hour fast when he would been a bit depleted would have done the trick. He would have just fell asleep and I figure he would have at least a good full day, but most likely more, before anyone came looking for him. But I'm really not sure how long you can go before actually dying. I mean, being in a coma isn't death and your body does things to keep you alive. I'm not sure how much glucose is stored in your body (liver, muscles...) before it shuts down completely.

If anybody decides to try this then LMK how it goes.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #113 on: May 25, 2018, 02:55:22 AM »
People still think it's easy to die from it. It's not easy at all. It should be respected though as it can catch you off-guard every now and then.

I've purposely induced hypoglycemia with it for various reasons. I've taken 25iu Humalog and 30iu Lantus and sat for about an hour waiting for the crash. Last time I got so weak I could hardly stand up to pick out my food from the fridge 5 feet away Lol.

I would like to sample these
https://www.instagram.com/p/BiUvWPlHsfX/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=809livwkm6qa

Tresiba and Fiasp


I used to do my ahots and wait till I was in hypo just so incould eat more lol. Only been one time where I really, really fucked up,& even then it wasn't "too bad". Did my 15iu humulin R in the gymnparkingnlot b4 heading home. Got home and.. I forget the time frame, but long story short, didn't feel it kicking in after that 15iu, plus another 5-7iu (both IM) at about the 55min mark, so did 5iu IV while mac n cheese was cooking, still nothing, so 5iu IV more, while online trying to type (posting on Anabolex),& couldn't figure out why my hands and fingers were twitching and accidentally clicking the mouse when my ex asks wtf I'm doing?  And says my mac n cheese is burnt.. Like black, burned to a crisp inn the bottom of the pot... And I'm pouring sweat, & shaking,& confused a lol..& realize "oh fuck.. I'm in bad bad hypo & in have no food cooked now"& quick put 4 slices of bread inn the toaster and guzzle a can of coke (whixh was the best tasting coke is ever had lol) .. Quick made some.cinnamon toast w/lots of sugar and by the time I'd eaten it all and pounded a couple 12oz glasses of milk, I was back to normal (after way less than the 10g/iu usually recomended)... And then there's numbskull Scott Markey who loaded up 2 insulin syringes. 1 with 10iu Nubian, and 1 with 100iu Humulin-R. He shoots the one cc insulin IV thinking it was nubain. And he wouldn't have even caught his mistake if he had not shot the 10 IU nubain IM afterwards (thinking it was insulin) and noticed it.stung (insulin doesn't sting IM, Nubian.does)....  He tells me he's this story the next morning when I and picking him up and taking him to work. Says when he woke up to an empty 2L coke bottle and a 1/2eaten and melted container of ice cream (& maybe an empty or half empty gal of milk.. I forget after 17yrs).... But he woke up nonetheless.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #114 on: May 25, 2018, 03:21:08 AM »
My friend tried to commit suicide and wanted to do it as gently, painlessly and "cleanly" as possible. He fasted for one day because he wanted to be sure his bowels were empty and took a thorough shower on the night of his planned death. He made sure he had clean bed sheets and that his a/c was on max power. It gets hot in Hawaii and he wanted to minimize the stink if it should take a some days before his body is discovered. He picked a day where he was 3 days late on the rent. He's always on time and hoped that by being late his landlord would come looking for him.

So his death protocol began with taking about ten sleeping pills. Not so much to poison himself but so that he would not have any issues going to sleep. He felt that worrying might keep him up. He then injected a vial of Humulin R. 3ml in each glute and 2ml in each delt. Worried that he might be discovered before complete death and would have to live with brain damage he also wrapped a plastic bag over his head and use some elastic around his neck for a tight fit. His plan was to suffocate to death after he passed out "just to be sure". He didn't put on the plastic bag immediately but waited until he started to go hypo. He wanted to be unconscious before he started suffocating. I can understand that.

Anyway, his timing was off and was still conscious and the feeling of suffocating was just too much. He ripped off the plastic bag gasping for air and just said "screw it". The suffocating part just spoiled everything. The plan was to drift blissfully into unconsciousness and then suffocate to death. No worrying about lingering and just going into a coma if the insulin wasn't enough.

Anyway, still functional even though he was going through the profuse sweating phase, he rushed to the kitchen and dumped scoops of sugar into a half drunk carton of apple juice and downed it. He then opened his pantry and took out a box of Captain Crunch but then put this back and got the Frosted Flakes instead. He pour a generous portion of sugar on the cereal and mixed it with chocolate milk. Always prefered chocolate milk from a carton for his cereal. He said he started to feel a lot better pretty
quick. He then started munching M&Ms watching TV. He then remember something and took his M&Ms along with more juice with about a cup of sugar mixed in and got in his car. He drove back to the closed Pizza Hut that he had a part time job with (he worked security full time) and went in back to the trash area where he dumped all his gear stashed in a garbage bag. Got to have your gear if you're going to live.

When he got home, he just went to sleep and is still alive but not quite well. He still thinks about offing himself but just can't think of a good way to do it. Doesn't want to leave a mess that guns or jumping out of a building would leave and doesn't know enough about the proper drugs and combos to use. Also, as he frankly told me, "It's not as easy as you think to just kill yourself. It goes against your nature and is a big step to take." That comment kind of cracked me up.

Anyway, what is a vial of Humulin R? A thousand units? That didn't do it and he said the hypo wasn't anything worse than he's experienced before. You get a lot of warning signs before you pass out. I'm sure if he didn't do the plastic bag over the head and just take the vial, especially after a 24+ hour fast when he would been a bit depleted would have done the trick. He would have just fell asleep and I figure he would have at least a good full day, but most likely more, before anyone came looking for him. But I'm really not sure how long you can go before actually dying. I mean, being in a coma isn't death and your body does things to keep you alive. I'm not sure how much glucose is stored in your body (liver, muscles...) before it shuts down completely.

If anybody decides to try this then LMK how it goes.

Next time drive 100mph into a bridge abutment with no seatbelt.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #115 on: May 25, 2018, 04:44:02 AM »
Either that or take a bottle of oral potassium supplements along with a heavy dose of sleeping pills.  If it's good enough for the US Justice System it's good enough for anyone

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #116 on: May 25, 2018, 04:49:37 AM »
People still think it's easy to die from it. It's not easy at all. It should be respected though as it can catch you off-guard every now and then.

I've purposely induced hypoglycemia with it for various reasons. I've taken 25iu Humalog and 30iu Lantus and sat for about an hour waiting for the crash. Last time I got so weak I could hardly stand up to pick out my food from the fridge 5 feet away Lol.

I would like to sample these
https://www.instagram.com/p/BiUvWPlHsfX/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=809livwkm6qa

Tresiba and Fiasp


On the one hand you say it's hard to overdo it or die from it, on the other hand you admit that you almost weren't able to eat your food to correct your hypoglycemia.  Insulin is maybe less dangerous than people say but it's still the only bbing drug that is really able to kill the user if not dosed properly.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #117 on: May 25, 2018, 04:53:25 AM »
Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years? 

That is the question no Pro Bodybuilder wants to answer ...... or non Pro  Palumbo .



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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #118 on: May 25, 2018, 02:28:03 PM »
Either that or take a bottle of oral potassium supplements along with a heavy dose of sleeping pills.  If it's good enough for the US Justice System it's good enough for anyone

How does that work? I'm thinking something to do with the heart. That sounds clean and easy.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #119 on: May 25, 2018, 03:23:00 PM »
How does that work? I'm thinking something to do with the heart. That sounds clean and easy.

Actually a potassium e buy over the counter at GNC or wherever won't really do s***. Body won't absorb it

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #120 on: May 25, 2018, 03:35:33 PM »
just slit your jugular like a man... if ur worried about the mess then u r not ready to die.

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Re: Who wants to pin themselves with HRT for the next 20 years?
« Reply #121 on: May 25, 2018, 03:38:57 PM »
My friend tried to commit suicide and wanted to do it as gently, painlessly and "cleanly" as possible. He fasted for one day because he wanted to be sure his bowels were empty and took a thorough shower on the night of his planned death. He made sure he had clean bed sheets and that his a/c was on max power. It gets hot in Hawaii and he wanted to minimize the stink if it should take a some days before his body is discovered. He picked a day where he was 3 days late on the rent. He's always on time and hoped that by being late his landlord would come looking for him.

So his death protocol began with taking about ten sleeping pills. Not so much to poison himself but so that he would not have any issues going to sleep. He felt that worrying might keep him up. He then injected a vial of Humulin R. 3ml in each glute and 2ml in each delt. Worried that he might be discovered before complete death and would have to live with brain damage he also wrapped a plastic bag over his head and use some elastic around his neck for a tight fit. His plan was to suffocate to death after he passed out "just to be sure". He didn't put on the plastic bag immediately but waited until he started to go hypo. He wanted to be unconscious before he started suffocating. I can understand that.

Anyway, his timing was off and was still conscious and the feeling of suffocating was just too much. He ripped off the plastic bag gasping for air and just said "screw it". The suffocating part just spoiled everything. The plan was to drift blissfully into unconsciousness and then suffocate to death. No worrying about lingering and just going into a coma if the insulin wasn't enough.

Anyway, still functional even though he was going through the profuse sweating phase, he rushed to the kitchen and dumped scoops of sugar into a half drunk carton of apple juice and downed it. He then opened his pantry and took out a box of Captain Crunch but then put this back and got the Frosted Flakes instead. He pour a generous portion of sugar on the cereal and mixed it with chocolate milk. Always prefered chocolate milk from a carton for his cereal. He said he started to feel a lot better pretty
quick. He then started munching M&Ms watching TV. He then remember something and took his M&Ms along with more juice with about a cup of sugar mixed in and got in his car. He drove back to the closed Pizza Hut that he had a part time job with (he worked security full time) and went in back to the trash area where he dumped all his gear stashed in a garbage bag. Got to have your gear if you're going to live.

When he got home, he just went to sleep and is still alive but not quite well. He still thinks about offing himself but just can't think of a good way to do it. Doesn't want to leave a mess that guns or jumping out of a building would leave and doesn't know enough about the proper drugs and combos to use. Also, as he frankly told me, "It's not as easy as you think to just kill yourself. It goes against your nature and is a big step to take." That comment kind of cracked me up.

Anyway, what is a vial of Humulin R? A thousand units? That didn't do it and he said the hypo wasn't anything worse than he's experienced before. You get a lot of warning signs before you pass out. I'm sure if he didn't do the plastic bag over the head and just take the vial, especially after a 24+ hour fast when he would been a bit depleted would have done the trick. He would have just fell asleep and I figure he would have at least a good full day, but most likely more, before anyone came looking for him. But I'm really not sure how long you can go before actually dying. I mean, being in a coma isn't death and your body does things to keep you alive. I'm not sure how much glucose is stored in your body (liver, muscles...) before it shuts down completely.

If anybody decides to try this then LMK how it goes.

-Sad story. Your friend was crying for help. Hopefully, he found it. The will to live is stronger than some people want to believe, specially when they are emotionally distraught. committing suicide is harder than one thinks it will be.

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« Reply #122 on: May 25, 2018, 03:40:50 PM »
Next time drive 100mph into a bridge abutment with no seatbelt.

Did you not get that his friend did everything he could to insure he didn't leave a mess. Your suggestion would be very messy.

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« Reply #123 on: May 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM »
Either that or take a bottle of oral potassium supplements along with a heavy dose of sleeping pills.  If it's good enough for the US Justice System it's good enough for anyone

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« Reply #124 on: May 25, 2018, 03:48:31 PM »
just slit your jugular like a man... if ur worried about the mess then u r not ready to die.

This is an accurate and logical statement.