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CPAP - WTF
« on: May 17, 2018, 07:18:40 AM »
I have had a sleep study done recently. Turns out I stop breathing about 15-30 times an hour, the max at one point was 65 seconds.  Pretty scary shit.  The Doctor sent me to a Sleep Center to get a CPAP.  I've read the threads on here and saw how man of steele claims how his life has changed and got excited about the positive outcomes for myself.

I go and they initially wanted to force me to use a nasal pillow first.  I tell the bitch I don't breathe from my nose but she insists I try it.  She tells me to close my mouth and start breathing through my nose.  About 10 breaths in I start to feel like I'm drowning and panic and rip it off. She then still insists I try it and gives me a different nose piece.  Same shit, same reaction.  Then we try the mouth cover thing.  I put it on and it seems more comfortable except for the strap over and around the back of my head and my chin.  I felt like Bane.  The air was cool breathing in and it seemed to be okay.  They send me home and tell me to try it when working and shit to get used to it.  I tried it for an hour and it seemed fine.

At night I usually fall asleep right away, never had issues falling asleep but had issues staying asleep.  I strap this thing on and try to get comfortable.  I usually sleep on my stomach but that's impossible with the mask since it gets pushed into my face or over away from my mouth.  So now I can't get comfortable.  I try to lay on my back and the more I breath, the more refreshed I get.  Instead of sleeping or wanting to sleep I find myself getting more and more awake.  I struggle for 3 hours to sleep, I think I nodded off a couple times and woke up panicked like I was chocking and ripped the mask off my face.  Finally I gave up and went to sleep normally and get a few hours in. Felt like shit all day. 

Midday I'm dying tired so I try it on and see if I can nap.  Nope, it just refreshes me again and makes me feel more alert and awoke.  the rest of the day I felt fine.  Back to bed, this time I pop a valium which always knocks me out in like 5 minutes.  I lay there and 2 hours withe the mask on, even try the ramp function which starts low and increases but hours pass by and no sleep.  I feel awake and not tired.  I take it off and sleep within minutes without it.

How the fuck is anyone supposed to sleep with this shit?  All of the fucking straps and mask and constant cool air being pumped into my mouth and nose doesn't seem like a good way to pass out.  Anyone else try these CPAPs and felt the same?  Anyone have tips on what might work?

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2018, 07:39:12 AM »
I got one about 8 months ago. I have the nasal pillows it takes time to get use too. Get yourself a good pillow learn to be still and sleep on your back. It's healthier for your spine. I can sleep through the night with mine now. Very worth it.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2018, 08:10:46 AM »
Its better than death
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2018, 08:13:55 AM »
I know what you're going through, as I went through the same thing when I got mine.  However, it does get better.  It took me about a week to get used to it, and now I wouldn't sleep without it.  Most people struggle with it at first, its normal.  Just concentrate on taking in nice deep, slow breaths, and before you know it you will be asleep, and wake up feeling refreshed in the morning.  On a side note, tell your doctor you want a prescription for Provigil(Modafinil), as you have a diagnosis of sleep apnea so your insurance will cover it.  You'll never be tired again between using the CPAP and Provigil.

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2018, 08:14:06 AM »
Its better than death
Agree but man it sucks getting 1/2 nights sleep for the past two nights.  Making me all depressed and shit.  I'm going to keep trying to nap and eventually sleep with it on.  Not sure why it seems to wake me up instead of helping me sleep.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2018, 08:32:03 AM »
It amazes me that they seem to prescribe a CPAP or APAP right away in the US. I went from 14 to less than 1 breathing stops/hour, using an apnea mouth device.


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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2018, 08:52:26 AM »
interesting how EVRY man seems to have sleep apnea these days and it can be so fatal....where are all the dead bodies?? I went for a sleep study once because my ex kunt complained about my snoring (no other bitch I ever slept with complained before) in the end they said I was fine...its a scam industry imo!!

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2018, 12:19:56 PM »
My neighbour has the CPAP. You just wear it every night it until you're so tired, you will fall asleep with it.
Then you cannot sleep without it....just like drugs.

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 12:21:08 PM »
How the fuck do people sleep on their stomach?

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 12:54:48 PM »
How the fuck do people sleep on their stomach?

The only reason why I don't sleep on my stomach is because of the stiff back pain the next morning..

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 01:12:20 PM »
It amazes me that they seem to prescribe a CPAP or APAP right away in the US. I went from 14 to less than 1 breathing stops/hour, using an apnea mouth device.



Did you try both or straight to the mouthpiece?  How does it work? Just seems to keep the mouth open the whole time.

Yeah it is a scam for sure.  Bitch nurse said that insurance won't cover it unless I average 4 hours per day with it so she says if I can't use it sleeping then use it when awake watching TV.  What benefit is that to me?  They just want the fucking money.

The thing doesn't make me tired, seems to invigorate me.  Maybe I don't get enough oxygen in the first place.

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2018, 01:44:59 PM »
Did you try both or straight to the mouthpiece?  How does it work? Just seems to keep the mouth open the whole time.

Yeah it is a scam for sure.  Bitch nurse said that insurance won't cover it unless I average 4 hours per day with it so she says if I can't use it sleeping then use it when awake watching TV.  What benefit is that to me?  They just want the fucking money.

The thing doesn't make me tired, seems to invigorate me.  Maybe I don't get enough oxygen in the first place.

No, but I would love to try a CPAP for 1-2 weeks, since I've heard so many good stories, like those from Stan Efferding. This will also answer the question if it's a scam or not.

You start with a neutral offset between your lower and upper jaw. During the starting phase you adjust it by lengthening the distance between both jaws (the lower one shifts forward). Once you're at a certain offset, which feels still comfortable, your tongue isn't able to cover your throat almost completely (i.e. almost blocking the air circulation).

It fits like a normal sized mouth piece, so you're still able to breath 100% via your nose, which is better anyway.

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2018, 05:00:02 PM »
No, but I would love to try a CPAP for 1-2 weeks, since I've heard so many good stories, like those from Stan Efferding. This will also answer the question if it's a scam or not.

You start with a neutral offset between your lower and upper jaw. During the starting phase you adjust it by lengthening the distance between both jaws (the lower one shifts forward). Once you're at a certain offset, which feels still comfortable, your tongue isn't able to cover your throat almost completely (i.e. almost blocking the air circulation).

It fits like a normal sized mouth piece, so you're still able to breath 100% via your nose, which is better anyway.

and drool like a moose when its in imo

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2018, 05:31:25 PM »
How the fuck do people sleep on their stomach?

Most comfortable for me is sleeping on stomach,feels so good.

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2018, 05:36:38 PM »
How the fuck do people sleep on their stomach?

My favorite way to sleep. I snore on my back, plus it just feels weird.

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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2018, 05:39:19 PM »
Doesn't it kill your lower back? And where do you put your arms?

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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2018, 05:44:44 PM »
Doesn't it kill your lower back? And where do you put your arms?

Yes, and beside me. I feel it may help my back though actually, much like a back bend or hyper extension. My back hurts no matter what. I usually just toss and roll around until I fall asleep.

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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2018, 05:47:17 PM »
Doesn't it kill your lower back? And where do you put your arms?

Arms up over head,wake with sore shoulders but sleep great.Lower hurts off and on for 12 years now no big deal.

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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2018, 06:12:28 PM »
Would you sleep on your stomach at Goodrums house for 10 grand?

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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2018, 06:37:53 PM »
Would you sleep on your stomach at Goodrums house for 10 grand?

Hahahahhhh

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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2018, 06:49:16 PM »
Would you sleep on your stomach at Goodrums house for 10 grand?
Nah.  I’d pay him a lot less.

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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2018, 11:32:16 PM »
I found the nasal pillows to be less obtrusive than any of the masks.  I use a chin strap to keep my mouth closed.

As for snoring while on your back....the cpap is supposed to keep you from snoring...If you are using a full face mask, your mouth is opening while you sleep.

Before the cpap, I would find the sheets and blankets to be all in dissaray upon getting up...All tired too...if you are waking up suddenly out of breath and feeling claustraphobic, that means the pressure needs to be turned up...you are still apneaing

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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2018, 11:37:55 PM »
It amazes me that they seem to prescribe a CPAP or APAP right away in the US. I went from 14 to less than 1 breathing stops/hour, using an apnea mouth device.



I use this exact one and have for years. I sleep like a baby with it.

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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2018, 12:05:38 AM »
I use this exact one and have for years. I sleep like a baby with it.

You had a mild index.  JADs don't have really good success rates.

I found the nasal pillows to be less obtrusive than any of the masks.  I use a chin strap to keep my mouth closed.

As for snoring while on your back....the cpap is supposed to keep you from snoring...If you are using a full face mask, your mouth is opening while you sleep.

Before the cpap, I would find the sheets and blankets to be all in dissaray upon getting up...All tired too...if you are waking up suddenly out of breath and feeling claustraphobic, that means the pressure needs to be turned up...you are still apneaing

The pressure helps stabilize the uvula, in which its' vibration is a major component of snoring.

A Full Face mask pushes down in the lower jaw, forcing you to mouth breath.  Smart move to go with a nasal mask and chin strap even if you are a severe ventor.  In most cases over time patients can sleep with the venting, as long as there are no associated arousals.   

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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2018, 01:03:42 AM »


The pressure helps stabilize the uvula, in which its' vibration is a major component of snoring.


And that of course is a bullshit claim. In Finland they used to do snoring treatments where they remove whole uvula, but they stop that because it doesn't have any effect of snoring. The real major component is fat which narrow your airways, or massive tonsils, limp palate etc. Just for snoring there is a RFA treatment, if you have the sleep apnea, you need more than that, like CPAP.