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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2018, 03:01:02 PM »
ban guns!
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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2018, 03:34:13 PM »
there are obviously a lot of things you don't realize

Coach doesn’t fully grasp your obsession w all things Ttump w that comment.  He suspects you got a mail order diploma from Phoenix U or Devry

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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2018, 03:47:19 PM »
Coach doesn’t fully grasp your obsession w all things Ttump w that comment.  He suspects you got a mail order diploma from Phoenix U or Devry

I'm not sure you understand where that comment comes from

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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2018, 06:02:30 PM »
A friend of mine posted his opinion on mass shootings on his Facebook page. I thought some of you might enjoy reading it. Feel free to weigh in if you have an opinion. Just so you know, I am not in favor of executions, but I can see where what he writes makes sense. My friend is half my age, (to give this some perspective).

"School Shootings and the Manchild, a conjecture

These school shooters all fill the same niche: outsider, gun access, angry and trying to vindicate self, others as incurables who need to be disciplined, "I'll show them", etc., etc.

These are the attitudes of manchildren--those curious teenagers who are still very much children but who are beginning to have man sized feelings and capabillities.

I think that we have experience dealing with manchildren. They are like little bitches who need to be disciplined themselves. They need to be hardened out of their immaturity.

This latest shooter was planning on killing himself as the finale, but couldn't bring himself to kill himself. That shows me you've got a big, fat, manchild there.
His only social value at this point is in showing what happens to people like himself, to make an example of himself.

If we allow people like him to be treated with incarceration or institutionalization, then we are rewarding their behavior. The state should be clear that it will not incur undue costs associated with housing and maintaining these kind of people. On some level, knowing that you'll be treated fairly and with due process and won't be tarred and feathered and thrown into a bog with a 100lb stone around your neck is an incentive to these assholes.

Because of the ongoing frequency of these crimes, the state should take a deterrence minded penal philosophy towards its punitive approach. I think that these manchildren should know that once they embark upon this path there is no exit. The authorities will be merciless with them and they will be executed. I think death penalty should be used in these cases. The children should be tried as men and should face man sized penalties.

You can go after the NRA, but in the end it is the manchild who is pulling the trigger in these cases and we need to go after the manchild, too."

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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2018, 02:09:03 AM »
Good post


A friend of mine posted his opinion on mass shootings on his Facebook page. I thought some of you might enjoy reading it. Feel free to weigh in if you have an opinion. Just so you know, I am not in favor of executions, but I can see where what he writes makes sense. My friend is half my age, (to give this some perspective).

"School Shootings and the Manchild, a conjecture

These school shooters all fill the same niche: outsider, gun access, angry and trying to vindicate self, others as incurables who need to be disciplined, "I'll show them", etc., etc.

These are the attitudes of manchildren--those curious teenagers who are still very much children but who are beginning to have man sized feelings and capabillities.

I think that we have experience dealing with manchildren. They are like little bitches who need to be disciplined themselves. They need to be hardened out of their immaturity.

This latest shooter was planning on killing himself as the finale, but couldn't bring himself to kill himself. That shows me you've got a big, fat, manchild there.
His only social value at this point is in showing what happens to people like himself, to make an example of himself.

If we allow people like him to be treated with incarceration or institutionalization, then we are rewarding their behavior. The state should be clear that it will not incur undue costs associated with housing and maintaining these kind of people. On some level, knowing that you'll be treated fairly and with due process and won't be tarred and feathered and thrown into a bog with a 100lb stone around your neck is an incentive to these assholes.

Because of the ongoing frequency of these crimes, the state should take a deterrence minded penal philosophy towards its punitive approach. I think that these manchildren should know that once they embark upon this path there is no exit. The authorities will be merciless with them and they will be executed. I think death penalty should be used in these cases. The children should be tried as men and should face man sized penalties.

You can go after the NRA, but in the end it is the manchild who is pulling the trigger in these cases and we need to go after the manchild, too."

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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2018, 11:33:38 AM »
Could be wrong but I’ve been told that even if he is charged as an adult the death penalty and life without parole is off the table. The most he can receive is supposedly life with the possibility of parole.

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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2018, 11:34:45 AM »
Oh and straw, they updated the transcript link I posted and you can see for yourself where she said access to firearms is the biggest warning sign/red flag

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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2018, 07:45:01 PM »
Could be wrong but I’ve been told that even if he is charged as an adult the death penalty and life without parole is off the table. The most he can receive is supposedly life with the possibility of parole.

Actually, when tried as an adult, the punishment can be more severe.

The United States Supreme Court ruled in Roper v. Simmons in 2005 that imposing the death penalty on offenders who were younger than age 18 at the time of the murder for which they were charged violates the Eighth Amendment. Following the 2012 U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Miller v. Alabama1) states and the federal government are required to consider the unique circumstances of each juvenile defendant in determining an individualized sentence. Montgomery v. Louisiana,2) a 2016 decision, ensures that the decision applies retroactively. For juveniles, a mandatory life sentence without the possibility of parole is unconstitutional.

SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Kip Kinkel has lost an appeal to the Oregon Supreme Court, where he had sought reduction of the 111-year sentence he received for a 1998 mass shooting at a Springfield high school. TOM JAMES , Associated Press Thursday, May 10th 2018. His appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court is expected.

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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2018, 11:04:44 AM »
Buy a shotgun, buy a shotgun.


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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2018, 07:03:30 PM »
Buy a shotgun, buy a shotgun.


Yup the shot gun is joe Biden’s gun of choice!!!

I always wonder when people like him start talking about guns if they know exactly how fucking stupid they sound or if they think that what they see in the movies is how real life guns work?

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Re: Texas high school gunman in custody identified: AP
« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2018, 09:48:43 AM »
John Kerry  2004 , went duck hunting with 4-5 campaign staffers .
They each held a dead duck in one hand and their gun in the other, walking in 1 straight line.
When the reporters asked how they did , he replied ; " We each got 1." ::)

I like John Kerry, but compared to Pres W Bush, he sounded like a complete tool on that duck hunt.

Obama never made that mistake and did his best to sound more authentic on the campaign trail.
A great example is him laughing at himself while throwing a gutter ball, bowling.

He was often advised early on, the call himself " Barry " Obama.
But he knew being authentic was more important.

Plenty of pudits advised Trump to act more "presidentail " .
Jeb Bush even scolded him during the debates saying ;
" You can't insult your way to the Presidency Donald."
Oh well, he damn sure did ...