Author Topic: Westside vs Strongman vs Starting Strength (Read 2425 times)

Brian Poulos · « **on:** June 05, 2018, 05:22:50 PM »

I've been doing a bodybuilding split for 18 months and had some awesome gains. However I feel I'm genetically prone to strength training and am looking to exploit my DNA. I have a friend doing Westside but from what I'm reading on the net I am leaning towards doing Starting Strength and milking the newbie gainz and then jumping into Westside or maybe even Strongman, particuarly Highlands training. Thoughts?

SOMEPARTS · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2018, 07:28:01 PM »

Post pics.

keanu · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2018, 11:14:56 PM »

Try it all and figure out what works for you.

IroNat · « **Reply #3 on:** June 06, 2018, 03:48:00 AM »

Go straight to astronaut training.

Do not pass GO.

BB · « **Reply #4 on:** June 06, 2018, 04:38:54 AM »

As mentioned, try it all, and see what fits you. There is no "one size fits all" to programming. Some guys need volume, some guys break down on it. Pick one, give it a good 4-6 months of honest try, and go from there.

If it were me, I'd run a simpler routine like the Bill Starr/Starting Strength stuff or one of the old Hepburn routines first, then move into trying Westside type programming.

Also ditch the "good morning squat / low bar" and "GOMAD" advice that is common. The gallon of milk a day diet sucks for most people, and a beginner should try a few different styles of squat before locking it in.

DanM · « **Reply #5 on:** June 06, 2018, 06:44:47 AM »

Westside is fun though really is a program that should be ran with decent training partners as you'll be working up to a near max week in and week out. If you feel that strength is in your cards try running a old school traditional 12-16 week powerlifting program using either block periodization or linear periodization and see how you do at the end.

Brian Poulos · « **Reply #6 on:** June 06, 2018, 03:45:30 PM »

What about Stronglifts?

hardgainerj · « **Reply #7 on:** June 06, 2018, 03:54:02 PM »

Quote from: Brian Poulos on June 05, 2018, 05:22:50 PM

I've been doing a bodybuilding split for 18 months and had some awesome gains. However I feel I'm genetically prone to strength training and am looking to exploit my DNA. I have a friend doing Westside but from what I'm reading on the net I am leaning towards doing Starting Strength and milking the newbie gainz and then jumping into Westside or maybe even Strongman, particuarly Highlands training. Thoughts?

joe defranco bastardization of westside

https://www.defrancostraining.com/westside-for-skinny-bastards-part1/

polychronopolous · « **Reply #8 on:** June 06, 2018, 03:59:02 PM »

Sell everything you have and move to Wichita Falls Texas.

Brian Poulos · « **Reply #9 on:** June 07, 2018, 09:55:46 AM »

My pal did 5/3/1 and it turned him into a monster

keanu · « **Reply #10 on:** June 07, 2018, 12:56:01 PM »

Quote from: Brian Poulos on June 07, 2018, 09:55:46 AM

My pal did 5/3/1 and it turned him into a monster

Lol. Impossible.

Explorerspl · « **Reply #11 on:** June 07, 2018, 02:05:05 PM »

4 day version of Texas method

Brian Poulos · « **Reply #12 on:** June 07, 2018, 03:33:45 PM »

Quote from: Explorerspl on June 07, 2018, 02:05:05 PM

4 day version of Texas method

Would have to complete Starting Strength first

DanM · « **Reply #13 on:** June 07, 2018, 03:45:03 PM »

If you have decent genetics and work ethic any of those programs will work and get you stronger, spending much time deciding on which is just splitting hairs, favor the one that you find more fun and will stick with and have at it.

hardgainerj · « **Reply #14 on:** June 07, 2018, 05:52:28 PM »

Quote from: Brian Poulos on June 07, 2018, 03:33:45 PM

Would have to complete Starting Strength first

dont forget to drink a gallon a milk a day

cephissus · « **Reply #15 on:** June 07, 2018, 08:07:13 PM »

you might want to check your local laws before getting too exploitative with the DNA, gringo... sounds like you could be in for some hard time on account of such activity

Brian Poulos · « **Reply #16 on:** June 07, 2018, 08:12:22 PM »

Quote from: hardgainerj on June 07, 2018, 05:52:28 PM

dont forget to drink a gallon a milk a day

I'm leaning towards Starting Strength. Rip is definitely the man.

HonestBob · « **Reply #17 on:** June 07, 2018, 08:35:20 PM »

Rip is definitely not the man.

How to get people fat and fcuk up their backs with terrible squatting set up.

IroNat · « **Reply #18 on:** June 08, 2018, 11:23:50 AM »

Quote from: Brian Poulos on June 05, 2018, 05:22:50 PM

I've been doing a bodybuilding split for 18 months and had some awesome gains. However I feel I'm genetically prone to strength training and am looking to exploit my DNA. I have a friend doing Westside but from what I'm reading on the net I am leaning towards doing Starting Strength and milking the newbie gainz and then jumping into Westside or maybe even Strongman, particuarly Highlands training. Thoughts?

Train full-body, 3 times a week, 1-2 hours per workout.

Eat a lot.

Get huge.

Become a Navy Seal.

Explorerspl · « **Reply #19 on:** June 09, 2018, 12:33:02 PM »

Quote from: Brian Poulos on June 07, 2018, 03:33:45 PM

Would have to complete Starting Strength first

If you've been lifting for 18 months why would you need starting strength?

What are your big 3 poundages?

Brian Poulos · « **Reply #20 on:** June 09, 2018, 02:16:17 PM »

Quote from: Explorerspl on June 09, 2018, 12:33:02 PM

If you've been lifting for 18 months why would you need starting strength?

What are your big 3 poundages?

Bench is up to 185. I haven't done squats or deadlifts because I have been bodybuilding.

Batfreak · « **Reply #21 on:** June 09, 2018, 03:15:36 PM »

Quote from: Brian Poulos on June 09, 2018, 02:16:17 PM

Bench is up to 185. I haven't done squats or deadlifts because I have been bodybuilding.

If you haven’t done squats or deadlifts you havent been bodybuilding

Brian Poulos · « **Reply #22 on:** June 11, 2018, 12:34:35 PM »

Update: Ok guys heres the plan: 6-9 months Starting Strength and then straight into 5/3/1. My pal followed this blueprint and turned himself into a monster. He did a high protein diet as well.

illuminati · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2018, 01:32:15 PM »

Quote from: Brian Poulos on June 11, 2018, 12:34:35 PM

Update: Ok guys heres the plan: 6-9 months Starting Strength and then straight into 5/3/1. My pal followed this blueprint and turned himself into a monster. He did a high protein diet as well.

Ok - enough of your nonsense ramblings.

18mnths training no squats or deadlifts & 185lb bench

Seriously WTF.

Brian Poulos · « **Reply #24 on:** June 11, 2018, 01:43:02 PM »

Quote from: illuminati on June 11, 2018, 01:32:15 PM

Ok - enough of your nonsense ramblings.

18mnths training no squats or deadlifts & 185lb bench

Seriously WTF.

I'll be doing plenty of Squats and Deadlifts with Starting Strength.