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« on: June 08, 2018, 11:54:01 AM »

Is one better than the other for a natural? What about a non-natty.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2018, 11:58:41 AM »

If I had to choose one, Iíd go with a split simply because you can hit the groups harder without worrying  about compromising performance  later in the work out.

Iím doing a lot of running these days. So, itís a bit much to do a full body workout right after a 5 mile run, but just hitting shoulders and back is doable.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2018, 12:19:25 PM »

Is one better than the other for a natural? What about a non-natty.

Spilt for both natural and enhanced
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2018, 12:29:16 PM »

Is one better than the other for a natural? What about a non-natty.

oh, calfzilla aka SHARIA lover is back  Angry
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2018, 05:00:04 PM »

oh, calfzilla aka SHARIA lover is back  Angry


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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2018, 05:02:50 PM »

split. Body can only recover so much in 24 hrs
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2018, 08:52:28 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2018, 08:54:13 PM »

Just get a Sharpie and draw on some definition on your stomach before you go to the pool.  Instant results without having to worry which lifting program will make you the most gay.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2018, 11:28:19 PM »

It doesn't make much of a difference in my opinion.  You should do whatever is most enjoyable and sustainable for you.  As long as you are hitting every body part once or twice a week, you should be good to go.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2018, 12:49:36 AM »

It doesn't make much of a difference in my opinion.  You should do whatever is most enjoyable and sustainable for you.  As long as you are hitting every body part once or twice a week, you should be good to go.


Plainly false. No way you can generate hypertrophy in more than a few muscles in any workout.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2018, 06:31:15 AM »

Full-body for natties is my vote.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2018, 10:46:22 AM »


Plainly false. No way you can generate hypertrophy in more than a few muscles in any workout.

just ask Steve Reeves  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2018, 10:54:12 AM »

No discussion here. Split.
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2018, 10:58:44 AM »

when all getbiggers agree on something, do the opposite
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2018, 11:30:10 AM »

just ask Steve Reeves  Roll Eyes

Or any bodybuilder before mid 1950s.
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2018, 02:20:52 PM »

Coach Rippetoe espouses full body three times a week. Who could argue?
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2018, 03:15:38 PM »

Coach Rippetoe espouses full body three times a week. Who could argue?

Honestly I was doing that for a couple months and was getting a lot stronger despite not trying for strength. I only stopped because I strained my bicep tendon.

Iíll  check out his philosophies.
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2018, 03:23:43 PM »


Plainly false. No way you can generate hypertrophy in more than a few muscles in any workout.

So if you do a full body workout hitting every muscle, how does the body chose which few muscles will hypertrophy?
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2018, 03:48:25 PM »

So if you do a full body workout hitting every muscle, how does the body chose which few muscles will hypertrophy?


I discussed hypertrophy a few times with Ray Mentzer. We both agreed that one had to do something extraordinary to trigger hypertrophy. For intermediate and advanced trainees it is not possible to train that hard to trigger growth widespread in the body. So that means you have to target a few muscles such as arms and calves or chest and back or legs.

Look at it like a funnel. No matter what you do in your training you eventually get to the point where your muscles are shaking, pumped and exhausted. I doubt many would or could want to do this for too many muscles in one day.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2018, 04:19:19 PM »

Honestly I was doing that for a couple months and was getting a lot stronger despite not trying for strength. I only stopped because I strained my bicep tendon.

Iíll  check out his philosophies.

Not necessary.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2018, 05:15:05 PM »

discussed with ray mentzer...are you fucking serious fatso? May as well say you discussed it with with one of the little boys on the beach you follow around.  STFU.  Being a schmoe doesnt make you knowledgeable about anything

I discussed hypertrophy a few times with Ray Mentzer. We both agreed that one had to do something extraordinary to trigger hypertrophy. For intermediate and advanced trainees it is not possible to train that hard to trigger growth widespread in the body. So that means you have to target a few muscles such as arms and calves or chest and back or legs.

Look at it like a funnel. No matter what you do in your training you eventually get to the point where your muscles are shaking, pumped and exhausted. I doubt many would or could want to do this for too many muscles in one day.

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2018, 05:48:54 PM »

discussed with ray mentzer...are you fucking serious fatso? May as well say you discussed it with with one of the little boys on the beach you follow around.  STFU.  Being a schmoe doesnt make you knowledgeable about anything



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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2018, 06:06:42 PM »

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Coach gets paid to know this... I'll go with Coach
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2018, 05:29:38 PM »

Starting out, everybody should do full body.

Ten to twelve exercises. Mostly compound movements.

Two sets apiece.

Mon/Wed/Fri.

Do this for six months before going to a two on/one off/two on/two off split to begin doing bodypart specific.

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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2018, 05:50:16 PM »

Starting out, everybody should do full body.

Ten to twelve exercises. Mostly compound movements.

Two sets apiece.

Mon/Wed/Fri.

Do this for six months before going to a two on/one off/two on/two off split to begin doing bodypart specific.



Exactly this. Start of full body until (advantage of hitting muscles multiple times a week) can't progress any more (and developed enough that it's more difficult to recover). Then move on to upper lower split and continue once again until progress halts.

Then push pull legs. Then individual parts.

Best way to progress... ofcourse I never did it that way but wish I had known this when I first started.
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