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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2018, 08:38:19 PM »
Exactly this. Start of full body until (advantage of hitting muscles multiple times a week) can't progress any more (and developed enough that it's more difficult to recover). Then move on to upper lower split and continue once again until progress halts.

Then push pull legs. Then individual parts.

Best way to progress... ofcourse I never did it that way but wish I had known this when I first started.

Broscience pure and simple. Congratulations.

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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2018, 06:32:49 PM »
Broscience pure and simple. Congratulations.

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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2018, 09:07:19 PM »
One advantage I like about about higher frequency splits other than the increased frequency which some respond to better is sandwiching in a lower body exercise between two upper body ones, like a bench/squat/bench variation. I feel like that second upper body exercise you can hit a bit harder having given it a break.

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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2018, 09:08:10 PM »
Train four days a week no more. Rest days are growth days...if your training hard enough you shouldn’t be able to workout five days a week.
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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2018, 04:16:23 AM »
Note to Vince B.:

Your bodyfat % is in the danger zone.  Experts recommend a waist size no more than 1/2 height.

"Danger Will Robinson!"

I suggest eating less as a solution.  

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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2018, 05:04:24 AM »
Note to Vince B.:

Your bodyfat % is in the danger zone.  Experts recommend a waist size no more than 1/2 height.

"Danger Will Robinson!"

I suggest eating less as a solution.  

Who are these experts? My health is very good. I look at guys my age and most look old and are in poor health.

Hypertrophy training once a week can benefit older people. By the way, it  isn't easy to diet at my age.

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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2018, 05:34:34 AM »
Who are these experts? My health is very good. I look at guys my age and most look old and are in poor health.

Hypertrophy training once a week can benefit older people. By the way, it  isn't easy to diet at my age.


Yes, it totally sucks,

I am amazed at how little I need to eat to maintain my weight and even less to lose weight.

Visceral fat is the thing. 

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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2018, 05:54:07 AM »
Training is pretty simple IMO. It's about making sure you are absolutely recovered - and then some.

If something isn't increasing/improving every workout, you are hitting that body part too often and/or subjecting it to too much volume.

You also need to remember training other body parts on separate days has a systemic effect and will impact recovery.

So relatively recently for example:

I was stuck on 190kg on supinated lat pulldowns for 5 reps to failure on my working set for 2 consecutive workouts. (Just positive failure as I train alone)

This is after heavy barbell rows, which incidentally I have had no real sticking points with for a long time.

When I got to the next workout where I would usually perform them again, I simply omitted them and just did the  barbell bent over rows and some pullovers, which both improved again.

When I came back to the pulldowns a fortnight later, I could do 8 reps to failure.

This is how I personally make improvements, I omit the relevant exercise to absolutely ensure overcompensation takes place.

As long as you are hitting that body part with some other movement/s, you are not going to lose any size and strength on the movement omitted. On the contrary.

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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2018, 12:34:10 PM »
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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2018, 08:24:23 PM »
Who are these experts? My health is very good. I look at guys my age and most look old and are in poor health.

Hypertrophy training once a week can benefit older people. By the way, it  isn't easy to diet at my age.



Vincenzo stop BS, dragging around + 20 kg of FAT like U do is catastrophic.


Anyone & any age can diet.

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Re: Is full body or split better for hypertrophy?
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2018, 10:11:17 AM »
Starting out, everybody should do full body.

Ten to twelve exercises. Mostly compound movements.

Two sets apiece.

Mon/Wed/Fri.

Do this for six months before going to a two on/one off/two on/two off split to begin doing bodypart specific.



I did something similar, only I did full body workouts for a year. I got confused About what type of split to use. So, I simplified it: Upper body on Monday and Thursday, Legs on Tuesday and Friday