Length of workout.

[benchmstr]

Usually 3-4 hours

But that’s lifting, running, biking, and swimming all at once

Bench

[Conker]

I used to do:

Wide Grip Chins: 6 sets
Close Grip Chins: 6 sets
Barbell Rows: 3-4 sets
Dumbbell Rows on incline bench: 3 sets
T-bar rows: 3 sets
Pullovers: 3-4 sets
Hyperextensions: 4 sets

i personally think that looks like overkill unless you're lifting very light weights to "tone up"

that's like 25+ sets for upper back. i think 12(max) intense sets would be ample and maybe 5 or 6 for lower

[Rambone]

Less focus on length. More focus on tracking overall volume/load(no homo)

[DroppingPlates]

i personally think that looks like overkill unless you're lifting very light weights to "tone up"

that's like 25+ sets for upper back. i think 12(max) intense sets would be ample and maybe 5 or 6 for lower

I fully agree with that. A pull, row, lower back and -optionally- an isolation exercise should be enough for a good back development.
For those who don't believe me, check Dorian's blood 'n guts.

[IroNat]

Depends on the amount of venom in your bloodstream.

[cephissus]

Doing deadlifts, rows, and pullups tonight. Maybe curls.

I do maybe ten sets for the main exercise, pyramid up down, low reps, medium reps, high reps... going by feel mostly.

Then the rest is just maybe 3 sets each, real quick.

1.5 hours, which includes 15-20 min to warm up on the bike.

[Dokey111]

Usually 3-4 hours

But that’s lifting, running, biking, and swimming all at once

Bench

that i'd like to see

[SF1900]

i personally think that looks like overkill unless you're lifting very light weights to "tone up"

that's like 25+ sets for upper back. i think 12(max) intense sets would be ample and maybe 5 or 6 for lower

I agree. I stated I liked longer workout, not because I thought I’d get much bigger, I just enjoyed working out. However, these days, I’m trying to incorporate shorter workouts.

[Desolate]

I used to do:

Wide Grip Chins: 6 sets
Close Grip Chins: 6 sets
Barbell Rows: 3-4 sets
Dumbbell Rows on incline bench: 3 sets
T-bar rows: 3 sets
Pullovers: 3-4 sets
Hyperextensions: 4 sets

Yeah, way overdone.

Reduce your chins sets down to two each. Weight the last set.

If you do barbell rows, you don't have to do dumbbell rows.

Make sure you are doing close-grip on the T Bar, otherwise you're hitting the same muscles as the barbell row.

Always do barbell rows. Alternate T Bar and dumbbell rows every other back workout.

Do barbell rows underhand (Yates Row)

Pullovers are nonsense.

Hyperextensions. Slow and smooth. Hold a plate for the last set.

Deadlift. No excuses.

[Julio Ceasar]

I think most people can agree with "the period I tried the most, I was in the best shape"

[denarii]

On back day by the time I get to 3rd exercise. Second compound one I'm wasted.

[SF1900]

Yeah, way overdone.

Reduce your chins sets down to two each. Weight the last set.

If you do barbell rows, you don't have to do dumbbell rows.

Make sure you are doing close-grip on the T Bar, otherwise you're hitting the same muscles as the barbell row.

Always do barbell rows. Alternate T Bar and dumbbell rows every other back workout.

Do barbell rows underhand (Yates Row)

Pullovers are nonsense.

Hyperextensions. Slow and smooth. Hold a plate for the last set.

Deadlift. No excuses.

I don't deadlift because of past hernia.

[Desolate]

Understandable.

But just know that you won't get the best back you could possibly have without it.

[SF1900]

Understandable.

But just know that you won't get the best back you could possibly have without it.

Meh, I am okay with that. I am happy with my back development.

[benchmstr]

that i'd like to see

The bike rust like crazy when I swim with it

Bench

[benchmstr]

I don't deadlift because of past hernia.

I don’t currently deadlift because I haven’t built a new platform...still do stiff leg/Romainian 4 times a week though..haven’t did a full conventional deadlift in almost 6 months

Bench

[SF1900]

I don’t currently deadlift because I haven’t built a new platform...still do stiff leg/Romainian 4 times a week though..haven’t did a full conventional deadlift in almost 6 months

Bench

I used to deadlift every back workout.

After a double inguinal hernia, didn’t seem worth the risk especially since I do not compete.

[benchmstr]

I used to deadlift every back workout.

After a double inguinal hernia, didn’t seem worth the risk especially since I do not compete.

Deadlifts are not an exercise for high reps..I do warmups with 10..but once I get to 135lbs I don’t go above 3 reps

Bench

[FREAKgeek]

Deadlifts are not an exercise for high reps..I do warmups with 10..but once I get to 135lbs I don’t go above 3 reps

Bench

It's great cardio when running is not happening

[Powerlift66]

My workouts normally last right around 1 hr and 15 mins.

55 mins average for the weights (one bodypart) and 20 mins of cardio.

Back might be:

Hyper or reverse hyper (4 sets)

Deadlift (couple of warmups), then (4 sets)

Some sort of row (4 sets)

Pulldowns or chins (4 sets)

Traps / shrugs (4 sets)

Cardio - Jog on treadmill (10 mins)
            Spin bike - 10 mins.

[milone79]

I used to do:

Wide Grip Chins: 6 sets
Close Grip Chins: 6 sets
Barbell Rows: 3-4 sets
Dumbbell Rows on incline bench: 3 sets
T-bar rows: 3 sets
Pullovers: 3-4 sets
Hyperextensions: 4 sets

Why? so much unnecessary repetition...only two functions you need to worry about with training back 1) Shoulder extension ie. pulldowns, chins etc. and 2) Scapular depression/retraction ie. rows

[IroNat]

When I was really into bodybuilding in my early 20s I used to do full-body or split workouts for 2 1/2 hours doing 50 sets or so total, 20-25 sets per bodypart with the splits.

Now I'm around 45 minutes to an hour doing much fewer sets and using much lighter weights.

Long workouts give you great work capacity as long as you don't take long rests.

Long rests are good for strength though.  

Nobody worried about over-training in the "old days" or length of workouts.

All this crap today created by personal trainers people worry about is probably BS.  People with toothpick bodies worried about their macros and if they should bulk, cut, or recomp and having 5% bodyfat so they can look like scrawny male models.

[Powerlift66]

People with toothpick bodies worried about their macros and if they should bulk, cut, or recomp and having 5% bodyfat so they can look like scrawny male models.

It really is a joke these days, never mind 17 year old getting on gear and getting shut down, comical...

[ratherbebig]

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