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 Back in the 80s I belong to one of those small, now extinct gyms with no a/c, no "cardio" equipment and primary just free weights. There were only two women that could stomach working out there but the rest were men. Being small it was close knit and we all saw each other socially outside the gym and I made many life long friends there. I'm sure there must have been more but I remember three topics of the day that really made a buzz at the gym and everyone was talking about it. One was when Jeff King won the AAU Mr. America. Nobody really heard about him then but seeing him on the cover of Iron Man everybody's jaw dropped! So young and so massively developed! He was sure to be the new Arnold and dominate. Then there was Mike Tyson when he won the heavyweight championship. What more can be said about him. He captured the world's attention and any man that had a pair was fascinated by his sheer brutal savagery and dominance. And then there was Michael Jackson's performance of "Billie Jean" on the 1984 Grammy Awards.

You wouldn't think he would capture such attention at an old hardcore weight lifting gym but he did. He seem to capture everybody's imagination. We are about the same age so I literally grew with him and was a huge fan beginning with the Jackson 5. While MTV changed everything, he changed MTV and just redefined and set a new standard with his videos. It was like watching a short movie. I remember my family and some friends gathering around the TV to watch the "Thriller" music videos and it gave us all goose bumps. We never saw anything like it. Same when he performed "Billie Jean" on the 1984 Grammy awards. The first time we ever saw the moon walk. Again it was mind blowing in those times from people from all walks of life. Michael Jackson was one of a kind.

When he performed "Billie Jean" again on stage nearly 20 years later it was not only nostalgic but it gave you an idea the impact he had on this world. His ability to move people emotionally. Needless to say a lot had gone in his life during those 20 years. Most of it seem to be bad and he got more weird and eccentric. He even started to look not quite human but kind of like an alien with humanoid features. By this time everyone knew, and could do, his shtick. There were so many imitators that could dance and dress like him. It wasn't new anymore. And when Michael walked out on stage to do his reenactment of his original "Billie Jean" performance, busting out the old jacket, the hat, the one white glove (lol)... it happened again. Even though none of this was new anymore just watching Michael do it made it alive and magical again. The crowd went wild. How one man could move people so emotionally powerfully and enrich their lives so much in that one moment in time. So many there were about the same age I was when I first saw him perform in 1984 and were just babies or not even born at the time. I considered Billie Jean a good song, but like most of his music, I never considered it great. But when Michael performed it, it was great.

Hard to believe it been nine years now since his death. I remember I was at Kualoa beach park texting my friends on the mainland when the news was breaking.

The jacket, the hat, the glove, the dancing... it never gets old when Michael Jackson is doing it.





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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2018, 11:36:29 PM »
Thank you, mods.

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2018, 11:39:37 PM »
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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2018, 12:17:50 AM »
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pellius is a bender?  ???  Bombshell news if true.  I had no clue that pellius was a bender.  I would have never guessed he was a bender based on anything prior to this.

To be honest, I feel there is a lot of liability in being a straight male, brought on by crap like #MeToo" [is that pronounced "Pound Me too"?  It may explain why the movement attracts the sorts of women it does].

Ultimately, I am a family man and a father at heart, so I am glad I am straight, but I would be in more relationships if not for the liability of being a male in a relationship, where the default position is to blame the man for everything.  My experience has been that people close to a given situation will fairly assess it, more or less.  So if a man is the victim of abuse by a female, people who know him will acknowledge it.  I also think that thanks to our court system, that men will win in court if they did indeed do nothing wrong.

What I find disturbing is the immediate finding of guilt in the court of public opinion.  That bothers me immensely.  No man stands a chance in the court of public opinion.  Enough cases have proven that.  And these things ruin a man's reputation.

PS - great post, pellius.  I too was a fan of Michael Jackson.  He was a tremendous performer.  His dance speed was incredible, and I wonder to what extent drugs played a role in his ability to sing and dance as he did.  Regardless, genetics obviously played a huge role, as very few performers ever did what he did.  When do you suppose Eminem will pass away?  He is 46 this year, and I suspect he did WAY more drugs than Jackson ever did.  I told my mother that I feel drugs are to rock [or rap] stars what steroids are to professional bodybuilders and strongmen.  When she asked if I felt that drugs were a necessity to perform at the top level in the music industry, I said yes.  :-\

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2018, 12:28:04 AM »
Great performer but a repulsive pederast.

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2018, 12:33:56 AM »

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2018, 01:00:41 AM »
Never liked he/she, or his shitty music...

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2018, 01:38:54 AM »
pellius is a bender?  ???  Bombshell news if true.  I had no clue that pellius was a bender.  I would have never guessed he was a bender based on anything prior to this.

To be honest, I feel there is a lot of liability in being a straight male, brought on by crap like #MeToo" [is that pronounced "Pound Me too"?  It may explain why the movement attracts the sorts of women it does].

Ultimately, I am a family man and a father at heart, so I am glad I am straight, but I would be in more relationships if not for the liability of being a male in a relationship, where the default position is to blame the man for everything.  My experience has been that people close to a given situation will fairly assess it, more or less.  So if a man is the victim of abuse by a female, people who know him will acknowledge it.  I also think that thanks to our court system, that men will win in court if they did indeed do nothing wrong.

What I find disturbing is the immediate finding of guilt in the court of public opinion.  That bothers me immensely.  No man stands a chance in the court of public opinion.  Enough cases have proven that.  And these things ruin a man's reputation.

PS - great post, pellius.  I too was a fan of Michael Jackson.  He was a tremendous performer.  His dance speed was incredible, and I wonder to what extent drugs played a role in his ability to sing and dance as he did.  Regardless, genetics obviously played a huge role, as very few performers ever did what he did.  When do you suppose Eminem will pass away?  He is 46 this year, and I suspect he did WAY more drugs than Jackson ever did.  I told my mother that I feel drugs are to rock [or rap] stars what steroids are to professional bodybuilders and strongmen.  When she asked if I felt that drugs were a necessity to perform at the top level in the music industry, I said yes.  :-\

I've never heard the term "bender" but by your post the implication is that it means "gay". I never thought that being a fan of Michael Jackson makes you gay. If this is the case, then maybe gays are correct when they claim that all research, polls and studies indicate that homosexuals is about 2-4% of the population is vastly understated. Michael Jackson was the most popular pop start among both women and men.

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2018, 01:41:22 AM »


The pedo fantasies never end with you, does it? It never ends. Even when the mods warn you by deleting posts you just can't help yourself.





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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2018, 01:46:18 AM »
he was up there with new kids on the block

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2018, 02:05:02 AM »

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2018, 02:06:15 AM »
The pedo fantasies never end with you, does it? It never ends. Even when the mods warn you by deleting posts you just can't help yourself.






What are you talking about?  I'm just showing happy pictures of Michael with the little boys that he loved.  Why are you so obsessed with pedophilia?

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2018, 02:14:43 AM »
pellius is a bender?  ???  Bombshell news if true.  I had no clue that pellius was a bender.  I would have never guessed he was a bender based on anything prior to this.

To be honest, I feel there is a lot of liability in being a straight male, brought on by crap like #MeToo" [is that pronounced "Pound Me too"?  It may explain why the movement attracts the sorts of women it does].

Ultimately, I am a family man and a father at heart, so I am glad I am straight, but I would be in more relationships if not for the liability of being a male in a relationship, where the default position is to blame the man for everything.  My experience has been that people close to a given situation will fairly assess it, more or less.  So if a man is the victim of abuse by a female, people who know him will acknowledge it.  I also think that thanks to our court system, that men will win in court if they did indeed do nothing wrong.

What I find disturbing is the immediate finding of guilt in the court of public opinion.  That bothers me immensely.  No man stands a chance in the court of public opinion.  Enough cases have proven that.  And these things ruin a man's reputation.

PS - great post, pellius.  I too was a fan of Michael Jackson.  He was a tremendous performer.  His dance speed was incredible, and I wonder to what extent drugs played a role in his ability to sing and dance as he did.  Regardless, genetics obviously played a huge role, as very few performers ever did what he did.  When do you suppose Eminem will pass away?  He is 46 this year, and I suspect he did WAY more drugs than Jackson ever did.  I told my mother that I feel drugs are to rock [or rap] stars what steroids are to professional bodybuilders and strongmen.  When she asked if I felt that drugs were a necessity to perform at the top level in the music industry, I said yes.  :-\

“Pound me, too”

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2018, 02:16:18 AM »
Michael was one creepy mofo.

He was a creative guy and a unique dancer, but as a “musician”, he was next to nothing.


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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2018, 02:17:45 AM »
Michael was one creepy mofo.

He was a creative guy and a unique dancer, but as a “musician”, he was next to nothing.



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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2018, 02:19:59 AM »

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2018, 02:22:11 AM »
One can only shudder to contemplate the “rides” at Neverland Ranch.

I bet even Bubbles was taking it in the shit chute.

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2018, 03:20:41 AM »
The 1993 interview with Jordie Chandler. Highlights how Jackson manipulated and groomed the boy.

https://www.mjfacts.com/psychiatric-interview-with-jordie-chandler/

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2018, 03:30:53 AM »
MJ died on George Michael's birthday.

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2018, 03:53:57 AM »
A nonce's nonce.

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2018, 05:47:26 AM »
The pedo fantasies never end with you, does it? It never ends. Even when the mods warn you by deleting posts you just can't help yourself.






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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2018, 06:00:50 AM »
Michael was one creepy mofo.

He was a creative guy and a unique dancer, but as a “musician”, he was next to nothing.



great songwriter!

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2018, 06:16:46 AM »
great songwriter!

Everyone else wrote his tunes.

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Re: Michael Jackson. Can't believe it's been nine years since he died.
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2018, 06:26:21 AM »
Everyone else wrote his tunes.

he wrote over 200 songs and is in the songwriters hall of fame.