Last week prep and diuretics

[GWYAD]

I seems that you have everything in place. The last couple weeks are more a mind game than anything else. Keep in mind that the rebound should be fierce when diuretics are used for more than 2 days or so. I wouldn't go cold turkey on diuretics after the show otherwise the rebound could be the problem and not the peaking itself.

Good luck and keep us posted as you peak to your show.

Thanks. Yes, I stay on low dosed Aldactone for a few days and maybe throw in a Thiazide or two. I am running 50 mcg of T3 and will stay on 25 while I stuff my face. I also get back in the gym for some training at 90% intensity.

I like to carry around pastries and eat them in front of everyone when I look almost good enough to be on the cover of a magazine, LOL.

Also, I am doing a trial run of diuretics, 25 mgs spiro yesterday, 50 today with 25 thiazide, 75 and 50 tomorrow then 75 75.

I was going to go to nationals to make a run at a pro card, but honestly there are at least 3-4 guys who should beat me. At my age I really should not be running this amount of gear.

Thanks for all the help, guys.

[GWYAD]

UPDATE: I am doing a trial run.

I did this a few weeks back but I did not record results. I am in shape...not below 5% (where I hope to be in 2 weeks....show is in 2 weeks 4 days) but close. I would say my conditioning is better than average right now. Did a full leg workout last night (I hammer legs fully until 2 weeks out then stop training them) and 55 minutes of cardio. Ate about 250 grams of carbs yesterday, plenty of sodium. I drank lots of water.

OK, so I took 25 mgs of spiro last night, 25 this morning and another 25 a little while ago. I took 25 mg thiazide about 4 hours ago.

I just went in and took a look at myself: I definitely look better. Veins are everywhere in my stomach, legs are more cut (even though they were blasted yesterday).

This confirms something I pretty much knew, even if you are in shape a small/conservative amount of diuretics will make you look better. You may not need them as some claim, but you will look better. The key is the right combination and staying conservative.

So, I am taking nothing else today. Training later, keeping carbs around 250 which is low for me. Tomorrow I will bump spiro up to 75 mgs and thiazide up to 50, split morning and afternoon or so. Then it will be 75 75 and a tiny bit of Lasix. That is probably as far as I will go.

[lilhawk1]

I guess everyone has their definition of conservative.  I would hate to see your aggressive approach lol.  Hey if you're in shape and thats what you have to do, then thats awesome.  Props to you for doing it.

[GWYAD]

I look great right now. I ate a bit extra today. However, I have taken a grand total of 25 mgs of thiazide. Tomorrow I take 50. The question is, will I look better now or after 50?

I may look better on less, we will see.

One thing about diuretics, you can just eat, drink, consume sodium normally. That is what I was told 25 years ago. When guys cut everything and try and pull a bunch of stupid tricks, that is when things go wrong. 

[GWYAD]

Update: Started at 25 sprio, then 50 next day and 25 thiazide. Day 3 was 75 spiro and 50 thiazide. Looked better and better. next day was 75 spiro 75 thiazide.

Looked better in the morning but started to flatten out a bit later in the day.

Carbs were very low until 2 PM and looked better after some carbs. Keep in mind daily total was less than 300 and I eat at least twice that on the 2 days before my show.

Today did 75 and 75 again, early carbs were low and I looked flat. Long back workout and hour of cardio....flat. I had 150 grams of carbs between then and now and filled out a bit.

However, I think one day at 75 75 is plenty, another day and I start flattening....look very dry but vascularity suffers. Took some Cialis....Viagra would probably be better, but I am going to stay more conservative.

Also, I will be having some junk food the night before prejudging, maybe a couple of donuts/chocolate/simple sugars which should make me more full but I am not going too crazy. 10 days out from show I lower carbs to around 200. Keep them stable and then gradually raise up starting 5 days before show. Crazy depleting loading water/salt....all too extreme. I salt normally and reduce salt Wednesday. I drink lots of water, don't cut until 6 PM 14 hours before pre judging.

I suppose plasma expanders would enable me to run more diuretics and not look flat, but I have no experience with them. I am in excellent shape. 

[GWYAD]

My back and legs are my best bodyparts, but these pics give an idea of my condition. They were taken after only one or two thiazides.

[illuminati]

My back and legs are my best bodyparts, but these pics give an idea of my condition. They were taken after only one or two thiazides.

Looking at those 2 pics your body fat is fairly low.
Though they aren’t the best shots to judge someone’s condition.
Again just from the pics I’d say you’ve got more body fat to lose
Before worrying about the use of diuretics.

I’d be more concerned about the abdominal distension & waist width
Plus lack of calves.

Post up better pics as I don’t think those 2 are doing you any favours.

[GWYAD]

These pics are terrible.....I can't take a selfie if my life depended on it. My stomach looks distended, but it is not, and I actually do have very good calves. The pics make my center look larger and every thing else look smaller. I took them to assess my body fat levels.

It was several days ago, I think I was 2 weeks and 5 days out. However, it does give an idea of my body fat level. I am maintaining cardio. Should I drop my carbs lower in order to get leaner?

Since I don't deplete and load, I could drop my carbs over the next 10 days and still have 4-5 days to eat more. I am getting some better pics next week.

[Zillotch]

u r holding a good amount of muscle and have great hair. i'd drop the diuretics and cut ur dosages, tho... cuz sometime the less u take, the better u look... not to mention that old age is no time to tard out health wise 

[illuminati]

These pics are terrible.....I can't take a selfie if my life depended on it. My stomach looks distended, but it is not, and I actually do have very good calves. The pics make my center look larger and every thing else look smaller. I took them to assess my body fat levels.

It was several days ago, I think I was 2 weeks and 5 days out. However, it does give an idea of my body fat level. I am maintaining cardio. Should I drop my carbs lower in order to get leaner?

Since I don't deplete and load, I could drop my carbs over the next 10 days and still have 4-5 days to eat more. I am getting some better pics next week.

If your asking Me?

From the look of you in them pics I’d say yes drop the carbs
Though I’d have 2 very low days p, 1 high day, 3 low days, 1 medium day, 3 low days
Or something very similar - low days of approx 50 - 80grms depending on what work
You do.

[GWYAD]

I normally reduce cardio 7-10 days out, but I am going to keep it high, an hour a day for another 8-9 days.

I am cutting back my weight training intensity a bit, maintaining 95% of volume but no more forced reps, drop sets going to failure. Last leg workout is today.

I am basically going to just stick to my diet, keep carbs around 250 a day. I am losing, and will continue to lose weight that way....I am definitely getting leaner each day. I ate a bit more carbs yesterday and look fuller and more vascular today, but I am still going to stay more conservative with diuretics.

Really, in terms of conditioning I am right on track if I simply do not change anything. I looked really good this morning, wife said so. Super vascular.

In terms of drugs, I am running 100 mgs tren ace/100 primo e/75 mast p/75 test ace injected everyday. I am going to stay with that and drop the test/mast/primo 8 days out. I will run the tren up to Wednesday. I am also taking 50 mgs of anavar and 50 mgs of winstrol/day. I will run that up to pre judging.

Oh, I am running 6 ius of GH/day. I am running that until Tuesday. That gives me 10 days to dry up. The GH, tren, cardio, and diet taken together will continue to lean me out, I really think I do not need to change anything.

[GWYAD]

u r holding a good amount of muscle and have great hair. i'd drop the diuretics and cut ur dosages, tho... cuz sometime the less u take, the better u look... not to mention that old age is no time to tard out health wise 

LOL....yes my hair is bulletproof. My wife is going to dye it tomorrow.

[AbrahamG]

Looking at those 2 pics your body fat is fairly low.
Though they aren’t the best shots to judge someone’s condition.
Again just from the pics I’d say you’ve got more body fat to lose
Before worrying about the use of diuretics.

I’d be more concerned about the abdominal distension & waist width
Plus lack of calves.

Post up better pics as I don’t think those 2 are doing you any favours.

You were very kind/diplomatic.  Totally agree that better pics should be posted as these pics show a guy in really good condition but the physique is brutal on the eyes. 

[dgrippe]

My back and legs are my best bodyparts, but these pics give an idea of my condition. They were taken after only one or two thiazides.

Body fat is low but I think the water manipulation will do the trick if you lose a bit more of fat. All in all you are looking great, keep grinding because this last days are brutal on the body and mind.

[GWYAD]

Thank you sir! Weight training is at 90-95% intensity, cardio staying high at 1 hour per day. Keeping diet stable. Everyone says I get leaner every day so not going to change much. Increase posing, stopped leg training, cutting cardio 5 days out and resting completely on Thursday/Friday.

[Zillotch]

I am also taking 50 mgs of anavar and 50 mgs of winstrol/day. I will run that up to pre judging.

I do not endorse competitive bodybuilding, but if u cut the winstrol, and ingest 1-2mg of letro 48hrs prior to stage, while running the anavar all the way thru... couldn't hurt.

[GWYAD]

I am running A Dex.....don't think I have any letro. Bumping up to 1 mg of A Dex, also running 20 mgs of Nolvadex/day.

Yes, competitive B building is a very dangerous sport (trained MMA for 17 years...its safer) I just needed to do one last insane thing before dying, lol.

[GWYAD]

Holy shit....I am looking good. Twice as big as I did in the above pics. Still doing an hour of cardio but eating more. Went down to 200 3 days ago and raised up to 500 grams of carbs today. A pound of prime tenderloin a pound of crab. I will stay 450-500 carbs all week and just not train Thursday Friday, I will fill out. Tomorrow is last day of cardio/hard training and keeping weights light.

I really should be careful not to fuck up because damn I look shredded and full. Doing more posing which is a workout.

I added Winstrol 2 weeks ago and have responded really well. Still on close to 600 week tren ace. Maybe 5% b fat.

Going to stay conservative with the diuretics.

[equipoise]

In the many years between your competition in your younger days and your prep now, did you use any AAS or TRT and GH?

[GWYAD]

I have been on moderate dosage HRT for many years....300 week test, 2 iu's of GH. Never large amounts like now. I am going back to lower amounts, 300 test 200 deca cruise for the next 3 months.

[equipoise]

I have been on moderate dosage HRT for many years....300 week test, 2 iu's of GH. Never large amounts like now. I am going back to lower amounts, 300 test 200 deca cruise for the next 3 months.

Nice, good to see you can low dose and stay healthy. I only use 100mg/week now + HCG, so I should be safe...

[GWYAD]

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[GWYAD]

Came in full and dry:   

[illuminati]

From that pic
There doesn’t appear any need for the use of diuretics
I’d say that condition & tighter could easily been achieved
Through diet & AS alone.

As long as you are pleased with how you looked
That’s a Positive.