McDonald's is pure garbage.

[pellius]

You have some reading to do, Pellius. Mainly Max Weber but also Adam Smith’s Theory of Moral Sentiments.

What you are describing is the lowest common denominator economy or what Peter Sloterdijk has described as the Leftist mass consumption economy: cheap shit for everyone.

That’s not Capitalism.

One of the hallmarks of a pseudointellectual is to claim ignorance, lack of education, or simply stupidity -- inferior cognitive function to grasp abstract ideas -- to the opposing speaker. Then comes the requisite homework assignments and references to sources that the speaker knows full well that the majority of the audience addressed will be unfamiliar with in hopes of adding credibility and gravitas to his massive intellect and making the audience feel inferior and even guilty that they are so preoccupied with making a living, caring for their families, dealing with various relationships, juggling the constant unforeseen blind side attacks that life always has for you, and generally trying to keep body and soul together that they have been remiss in their study of the good philosopher and cultural theorist, Peter Sloterdijk, who is probably just as unknown in Germany as he is here in America outside of the intellectual elite who sneer at we unwashed masses.

Never is a specific point addressed or disputed or any arguments made to refute any claims made. Dr. Chimps, also a very well read individual, does this constantly. Never actually poses any refutation or contrary argument. Just that you're wrong, probably stupid, and you need to educate yourself and read "this and that".

If there is a specific point you want to address or refute or require clarification then by all means. Any reference or quotes I might make to outside sources is only to buttress an already made point argued and reasoned.

[pellius]

In our version of capitalism, the workers that produce the goods cannot afford the goods they produced...hence the wonderful world of credit and debt.....or financial slavery....Poor people are encouraged to buy commodities they cannot afford with "No money down and easy payments"....Of course the rich will always benefit from this system as they don't need credit..and if they decide to use credit, its usually with little or no interest...because the poor pay such exhorbitant interest, fees and finacning charges....and of course the entire world of finance is owned by the rich..with Heads of banks getting $100 million dollars just as bonuses while cranking up late fees, overdraft charges, under limit fees...account maintenance fees on the poor...the rich will never pay any type of these fees....



I'm not a socialist but think we can improve on this form of capitalism.

Coming from someone who is living in the wealthiest country in history sitting in front of a computer, living in a house or apartment, many with just as many cars as residents and more TV's than occupants, with more than more refrigerator to store all the food they can eat, living in a climate controlled environment....

How one manages their resources is a matter of personal responsibility and has nothing to do with access or wealth of a nation or individual.

[MORTALCOIL]

One of the hallmarks of a pseudointellectual is to claim ignorance, lack of education, or simply stupidity -- inferior cognitive function to grasp abstract ideas -- to the opposing speaker. Then comes the requisite homework assignments and references to sources that the speaker knows full well that the majority of the audience addressed will be unfamiliar with in hopes of adding credibility and gravitas to his massive intellect and making the audience feel inferior and even guilty that they are so preoccupied with making a living, caring for their families, dealing with various relationships, juggling the constant unforeseen blind side attacks that life always has for you, and generally trying to keep body and soul together that they have been remiss in their study of the good philosopher and cultural theorist, Peter Sloterdijk, who is probably just as unknown in Germany as he is here in America outside of the intellectual elite who sneer at we unwashed masses.

Never is a specific point addressed or disputed or any arguments made to refute any claims made. Dr. Chimps, also a very well read individual, does this constantly. Never actually poses any refutation or contrary argument. Just that you're wrong, probably stupid, and you need to educate yourself and read "this and that".

If there is a specific point you want to address or refute or require clarification then by all means. Any reference or quotes I might make to outside sources is only to buttress an already made point argued and reasoned.

You just happened to make a stupid assessment about Capitalism, with no theoretical or historical background to it. I just pointed a direction, pretty much the most basic, concerning a concept you employed while being extremely affirmative. If the point you're trying to make is that every opinion has the same value and the analysis of an uninformed imbecile is as valuable as of someone who has bothered studying a subject, there's no point in making statements like the one you did about one system being better than another. As it's pretty obvious that you're an relativist, at least when it comes to you making idiotic statements.

[IroNat]

How one manages their resources is a matter of personal responsibility and has nothing to do with access or wealth of a nation or individual.

Agreed.  "Just Say No" to consumerism.

Invest your money.  Make money with your money (capital).

That is Capitalism.  

Change your thinking.  What is $100,000?  

To the consumer it is the means to buy more stuff.

To the Capitalist it represents an income stream from investment.  $100,000 invested at 5% makes you $5,000/yr.  Accumulate $1 million and you earn $50,000/yr.  And you still have your $1 million.

Educate yourself instead of complaining.  Get smart.

This is the mindset of Warren Buffett.

[pellius]

You just happened to make a stupid assessment about Capitalism, with no theoretical or historical background to it. I just pointed a direction, pretty much the most basic, concerning a concept you employed while being extremely affirmative. If the point you're trying to make is that every opinion has the same value and the analysis of an uninformed imbecile is as valuable as of someone who has bothered studying a subject, there's no point in making statements like the one you did about one system being better than another. As it's pretty obvious that you're an relativist, at least when it comes to you making idiotic statements.

I was not making the point that every opinion has the same value. I don't know where you get that from. I am pointing out how Capitalism, economic competition, breeds excellence. It forces business not to be selfish but to serve the interest of their customers. Only by giving them goods and services that they want, and doing it better and cheaper than their competitors, can they succeed. And you have to be nice. Anybody that has had first-hand experience with government agencies, where there is no competition, knows that they are notoriously less than consumer friendly. Just trying to get them to answer the phone is an achievement.

But what is most surprising to me is that you: who fancies himself an intellectual, cultured, sophisticate, should be so emotionally vested in this debate and is actually angry and attack me personally for disagreeing with you. You offer no specific arguments to any of my assertions but just call me names. That I am stupid and idiotic. I have zero animosity towards you for disagreeing with me. Any argument or refutation you want to offer I will address best I can. But all you do is insult me.

Very unbecoming of a Frenchman who fancies himself as a person of class and dignity which, as you claim, money can't buy. Perhaps you should stick to your fine dining of little food, old moldy cheese, expensive wine driving about in your tiny smart cars that look more like a gay spaceship than slumming about with us American boors and our cheap, fast, pedestrian swill.   

This is why you hate him. This is why we love him. We'll see who wins in the end.

[MORTALCOIL]

I was not making the point that every opinion has the same value. I don't know where you get that from. I am pointing out how Capitalism, economic competition, breeds excellence. It forces business not to be selfish but to serve the interest of their customers. Only by giving them goods and services that they want, and doing it better and cheaper than their competitors, can they succeed. And you have to be nice. Anybody that has had first-hand experience with government agencies, where there is no competition, knows that they are notoriously less than consumer friendly. Just trying to get them to answer the phone is an achievement.

But what is most surprising to me is that you: who fancies himself an intellectual, cultured, sophisticate, should be so emotionally vested in this debate and is actually angry and attack me personally for disagreeing with you. You offer no specific arguments to any of my assertions but just call me names. That I am stupid and idiotic. I have zero animosity towards you for disagreeing with me. Any argument or refutation you want to offer I will address best I can. But all you do is insult me.

Very unbecoming of a Frenchman who fancies himself as a person of class and dignity which, as you claim, money can't buy. Perhaps you should stick to your fine dining of little food, old moldy cheese, expensive wine driving about in your tiny smart cars that look more like a gay spaceship than slumming about with us American boors and our cheap, fast, pedestrian swill.   

This is why you hate him. This is why we love him. We'll see who wins in the end.

You're so obsessed with your political agenda that you're ready to twist facts so that you can create a reality that suits you're beliefs.
When did I insult you? I just stated that you made a stupid point about Capitalism, that you confuse with Consumerism.
I just gave you a few hints, a historical perspective that you seemingly don't care about.
Pretty interesting that an advocate of the capitalist system would completely ignore the forefathers of that very theory.
You're playing the victim over and over again, we've seen you revel in this kind of behavior  and you've been constantly called out for it.
You'll have to admit that it's not the most manly thing to do.

[Powerlift66]

I had their new “fresh” quarter pounder with cheese. Shut tasted and looked the same as the old frozen version. 

I get some of my most anabolic protein gains from McD's!!

[pellius]

You're so obsessed with your political agenda that you're ready to twist facts so that you can create a reality that suits you're beliefs.
When did I insult you? I just stated that you made a stupid point about Capitalism, that you confuse with Consumerism.
I just gave you a few hints, a historical perspective that you seemingly don't care about.
Pretty interesting that an advocate of the capitalist system would completely ignore the forefathers of that very theory.
You're playing the victim over and over again, we've seen you revel in this kind of behavior  and you've been constantly called out for it.
You'll have to admit that it's not the most manly thing to do.

Holy shit! Talk about a meltdown!

I give my opinion why I choose McDonald's over other fast food restaurants and attribute that to the competition inherent in a market economy and demonstrated in real life as I stand between a Jack-in-the-Box and a McDonald's and it becomes a political agenda of twisted facts and playing a victim and not caring about the historical perspective that '"we've" seen you revel in...'

There is no "we've". There's only you. A typical European Leftist that thinks he's smarter than anybody else and that his shit don't stink. You can eat all the overpriced fancy French food and drink all the fine wines to nourish that flaccid body of yours but your turds stinks just as much as a homeless man's poop.

Man, you are such a weirdo.

[pellius]

I get some of my most anabolic protein gains from McD's!!

Peter Sloterdijk would not approve.

[MORTALCOIL]

Holy shit! Talk about a meltdown!

I give my opinion why I choose McDonald's over other fast food restaurants and attribute that to the competition inherent in a market economy and demonstrated in real life as I stand between a Jack-in-the-Box and a McDonald's and it becomes a political agenda of twisted facts and playing a victim and not caring about the historical perspective that '"we've" seen you revel in...'

There is no "we've". There's only you. A typical European Leftist that thinks he's smarter than anybody else and that his shit don't stink. You can eat all the overpriced fancy French food and drink all the fine wines to nourish that flaccid body of yours but your turds stinks just as much as a homeless man's poop.

Man, you are such a weirdo.

I think that in the weirdo department, you're pretty difficult to beat. Your pics have the been the laughing stock of the site for years, your "elf" status didn't help either and you're . You come out as creepy 50 something yo with no kids and who barely breaks the 50k a year barrier.
Your semantics revolve constantly around "meltdown", "Leftist", "flaccid". Do you realize that you sound like a teenager? Probably there lies the reason you have nothing against grow men fucking 13yo girls.. You seem very much obsessed with Europe also. It sure hasn't reached the level of sophistication of Hawaii.

[Primemuscle]

Holy shit! Talk about a meltdown!

I give my opinion why I choose McDonald's over other fast food restaurants and attribute that to the competition inherent in a market economy and demonstrated in real life as I stand between a Jack-in-the-Box and a McDonald's and it becomes a political agenda of twisted facts and playing a victim and not caring about the historical perspective that '"we've" seen you revel in...'

There is no "we've". There's only you. A typical European Leftist that thinks he's smarter than anybody else and that his shit don't stink. You can eat all the overpriced fancy French food and drink all the fine wines to nourish that flaccid body of yours but your turds stinks just as much as a homeless man's poop.

Man, you are such a weirdo.

-Good response with one exception. There is no such person as a typical leftist, European or otherwise, just as there is no typical ring-wing person. Referring to people in stereotypes is just lazy thinking. You're a smart fellow. You can do better than this.

It is exceptional that a thread about a fast food restaurant has become a catalyst for abundant and varied posts, some having absolutely nothing to do with McDonald's. 'Melting down' over imagined political connotations of patronizing McDonald's is the height of absurdity.

Craving one of these:

[pellius]

I think that in the weirdo department, you're pretty difficult to beat. Your pics have the been the laughing stock of the site for years, your "elf" status didn't help either and you're . You come out as creepy 50 something yo with no kids and who barely breaks the 50k a year barrier.
Your semantics revolve constantly around "meltdown", "Leftist", "flaccid". Do you realize that you sound like a teenager? Probably there lies the reason you have nothing against grow men fucking 13yo girls.. You seem very much obsessed with Europe also. It sure hasn't reached the level of sophistication of Hawaii.

Now you are really, really desperate and having a truly brutal meltdown that you are just making things up. Fact is, I've been married, I've raised far more kids then you have, have made far more than 50 grand a year since my twenties (I live in the most expensive State in the country), and I am in way, way better shape then you have ever been. You'd be ashamed at posting a recent pic of your skinny fat bod eating all that
Frenchy food thinking you're so sophisticated. LOL!

You're a pussified clown passing yourself as an intellectual sophisticate having a meltdown at where other people eat. And Hawaii is a way better place to live than France. LOL. We don't even have a Muslim population let alone one that is easily conquering your country without so much as a fight.

And for someone who claims to be so educated can you at least spell, punctuate, and use decent grammar you pussified ninny.

[pellius]

-Good response with one exception. There is no such person as a typical leftist, European or otherwise, just as there is no typical ring-wing person. Referring to people in stereotypes is just lazy thinking. You're a smart fellow. You can do better than this.

It is exceptional that a thread about a fast food restaurant has become a catalyst for abundant and varied posts, some having absolutely nothing to do with McDonald's. 'Melting down' over imagined political connotations of patronizing McDonald's is the height of absurdity.

Craving one of these:

Not true, Prime (may I call you Prime?). There are reasons for labels. Of course, there are subtle differences but someone on the Left and someone on the Right has specific traits. Some general, some specific. A general observation is an almost diametrically opposed worldview between the Western Europeans and the U.S. Again this doesn't mean every single individual and it does vary by degrees. The U.S. is more defined by Capitalism, Religiosity and a strong military and the willingness to use it. The Europeans are more defined by Socialism, Secularism, and Pacificism.

Now you may say, "Well, I'm not religious. We spend too much on defense. I support more government regulations..." Well, that's you. But that's not the country. We are still primarily a religious country (far, far more so than Europe), still have the most formidable military and plan to keep it that way, and make it even greater under Trump, and still believe in a market economy.

But what is truly outrageous and absurd, is this moron having such a meltdown that someone considers McDonald's a great fast food chain and emblematic of the American way. A small business growing into an international empire simply by providing goods and services that people want. He tries to minimize my life but I go on living it and enjoying it in Hawaii and feel very grateful and thankful for winning life's lottery simply by being born here having access to places like McDonald's at my fingertips. This guy seems like such a little, petty, whiny, poor excuse for a man by obsessing over this. How pathetic his life must be to give even a nanosecond of thought to this. It is beyond comprehension that I would care one iota what he thinks of me going to McDonald's. It's crazy to even be saying this. I mean, I thought it was kind of tongue in cheek, as you probably gather by my posts, but this guy is serious. Does MORTALCOIL strike you as a happy man? "Why so serious, bro?"

[MORTALCOIL]

Now you are really, really desperate and having a truly brutal meltdown that you are just making things up. Fact is, I've been married, I've raised far more kids then you have, have made far more than 50 grand a year since my twenties (I live in the most expensive State in the country), and I am in way, way better shape then you have ever been. You'd be ashamed at posting a recent pic of your skinny fat bod eating all that
Frenchy food thinking you're so sophisticated. LOL!

You're a pussified clown passing yourself as an intellectual sophisticate having a meltdown at where other people eat. And Hawaii is a way better place to live than France. LOL. We don't even have a Muslim population let alone one that is easily conquering your country without so much as a fight.

And for someone who claims to be so educated can you at least spell, punctuate, and use decent grammar you pussified ninny.

You're like a broken record. It's a good thing you manage to live in a reality of your own. Your pics have been laughed for years here, knowing that you were juicing for such a pitiful result. And sure, 99% of the population would rather live in shitty Hawaii compared to one of the most visited capitals in the world. Good to know that you have a family, you did wait for a woman to hit puberty to fuck her at least once in your life. Quite an achievement for a uber-pedo like yourself. Go on your merry way.

[Kwon3]

Oh my god, does every fucking thread need to be a fight between two people that nobody cares about? Fucking hell. Make your own goddamned thread and fucking go there with all your feuds. 

[pellius]

You're like a broken record. It's a good thing you manage to live in a reality of your own. Your pics have been laughed for years here, knowing that you were juicing for such a pitiful result. And sure, 99% of the population would rather live in shitty Hawaii compared to one of the most visited capitals in the world. Good to know that you have a family, you did wait for a woman to hit puberty to fuck her at least once in your life. Quite an achievement for a uber-pedo like yourself. Go on your merry way.

The only people that laugh at my pics are those that wouldn't  dare post one their own. You're proof of that.

And wanting to visit is not the same as wanting to live. France is committing cultural suicide because of cucks like you.

[Primemuscle]

Not true, Prime (may I call you Prime?). There are reasons for labels. Of course, there are subtle differences but someone on the Left and someone on the Right has specific traits. Some general, some specific. A general observation is an almost diametrically opposed worldview between the Western Europeans and the U.S. Again this doesn't mean every single individual and it does vary by degrees. The U.S. is more defined by Capitalism, Religiosity and a strong military and the willingness to use it. The Europeans are more defined by Socialism, Secularism, and Pacificism.

Now you may say, "Well, I'm not religious. We spend too much on defense. I support more government regulations..." Well, that's you. But that's not the country. We are still primarily a religious country (far, far more so than Europe), still have the most formidable military and plan to keep it that way, and make it even greater under Trump, and still believe in a market economy.

But what is truly outrageous and absurd, is this moron having such a meltdown that someone considers McDonald's a great fast food chain and emblematic of the American way. A small business growing into an international empire simply by providing goods and services that people want. He tries to minimize my life but I go on living it and enjoying it in Hawaii and feel very grateful and thankful for winning life's lottery simply by being born here having access to places like McDonald's at my fingertips. This guy seems like such a little, petty, whiny, poor excuse for a man by obsessing over this. How pathetic his life must be to give even a nanosecond of thought to this. It is beyond comprehension that I would care one iota what he thinks of me going to McDonald's. It's crazy to even be saying this. I mean, I thought it was kind of tongue in cheek, as you probably gather by my posts, but this guy is serious. Does MORTALCOIL strike you as a happy man? "Why so serious, bro?"

Of course you may call me Prime. It's a heck of a lot better than some of the things I've been called on Getbig. I'd change my handle to something more appropriate except I kinda enjoy humor in its innuendo and its satirical aspects. I'm certainly not in my prime...physically speaking.

Generalized labels, as much as I deplore them, do help us define things more easily. I'm okay with them as long as folks understand they are generalizations and not absolutely definitive. Everyone I've met in my long life is unique despite any similarities to others. We do folks a big disservice when we stereotype them while ignoring their individuality.

Bottom line is that IMO, McDonald's rocks! LOL

[tres_taco_combo]

Bottom line is that IMO, McDonald's rocks! LOL

yes it does - ask any young child or sr citizen too - thy will all agree

[FitnessFrenzy]

Pellius, have you tried the mcdouble burgers with white cheese? Here it is called cheeseburger deluxe, or similar, and I prefer it to mcd's yellow cheese.

[pellius]

Pellius, have you tried the mcdouble burgers with white cheese? Here it is called cheeseburger deluxe, or similar, and I prefer it to mcd's yellow cheese.

I didn't know they had White cheese. Not sure if available in Hawaii. I just came from McDonald's. I'll ask when I go there Sunday. Thanks for the tip.

[Stan Diego]

[Gym Rat]

Gym Rats McMuffins (not mine)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqdtoF6jSwJ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[Flexacon]

I still love it.

I could happily eat one of their 1/4 pounders (UK one is not as greasy as the US one) every day for the rest of my life

[joswift]

havent been in Mc Donalds for over 2 years

[Hulkotron]

Haven’t been in a long while, kind of want a QPwC now.