Ronnie Coleman - Positive Outlook

[TheOne]

A lot of Ronnie hate in this thread.  Maybe he should be listening to his doctors advice a little more closely but the guy was the best at one time and will never be surpassed.  I live close to Arlington, TX.  I have seen Ronnie in his prime at Kroger supermarket.  If you’ve never seen him up close I cannot express how massive this guy was in real life not to mention the most humble and genuinely the nicest bodybuilder ever.  People like Shawn Ray are dirt bags compared to how giving Ronnie is.  I wish him the best and only hope he listens to his doctors and follows the rehab plan laid out for him.

[seCrawler]

People like Shawn Ray are dirtbags compared to how giving Ronnie is.  I wish him the best and only hope he listens to his doctors and follows the rehab plan laid out for him.

[Bevo]

A lot of Ronnie hate in this thread.  Maybe he should be listening to his doctors advice a little more closely but the guy was the best at one time and will never be surpassed.  I live close to Arlington, TX.  I have seen Ronnie in his prime at Kroger supermarket.  If you’ve never seen him up close I cannot express how massive this guy was in real life not to mention the most humble and genuinely the nicest bodybuilder ever.  People like Shawn Ray are dirt bags compared to how giving Ronnie is.  I wish him the best and only hope he listens to his doctors and follows the rehab plan laid out for him.

I’ve seen Ronnie in his prime in a strip club

[Earl1972]

.  He's not as great as Haney or Yates and nowhere near the Oak.

 

what makes those guys better?  haney seems to be almost forgotten

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[plebian]

GH being "anti aging" and "protective" and "healing" is the biggest bunch of bullshit that has ever become proliferated about this drug.

does GH work for osteoarthritis? No - it EXACERBATES the symptoms

does GH work for anti aging? NO - every animal model shows GH is correlated strongly with DECREASED LIFE SPAN.

does GH work for repairing damaged tissues? Absolutely no evidence of this despite widespread moron belief about magical healing powers. Pigs might fly - but it WILL give you insulin resistance on a long enough timeline, and when that sets in you can kiss your recuperative functions goodbye.

GH is a STRESS HORMONE. Thats it literal classification before big pharma attempted to do the same sleight of hand they did when they convinced women they "needed" cancer-fuel synthetic estrogens, another class of stress hormones.

point of this ranting? Why do all the guys from the golden era seem to be absolutely fine or otherwise their problems are completely expectant with their age group, while all the guys from the modern era are all sorts of fucked up? ITs the HGH abuse. And you can tell ronnie hasn't given that shit up either. probably listening to other morons who tell him his doctors are full of shit and he needs to get on that HGH test combo for maximum recovery 

he's 54 and yet he looks and moves like he's 90. He's got exactly one chance of recovery and that doesn't involve drugs and trying to go to the gym, it involves letting his surgeon do his fucking work without having to expect this retard will pop another screw out of place from over activity.

[Bevo]

what makes those guys better?  haney seems to be almost forgotten

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In Haney’s case he stepped away, retired and never looked back, doesn’t seem to care or be involved as much as the others

He’ll have an interview or make an appearance here and there but I think he’s content in where he’s at in life

[BSN]

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[NarcissisticDeity]

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My waist nice & small 

[Van_Bilderass]

GH being "anti aging" and "protective" and "healing" is the biggest bunch of bullshit that has ever become proliferated about this drug.

does GH work for osteoarthritis? No - it EXACERBATES the symptoms

does GH work for anti aging? NO - every animal model shows GH is correlated strongly with DECREASED LIFE SPAN.

does GH work for repairing damaged tissues? Absolutely no evidence of this despite widespread moron belief about magical healing powers. Pigs might fly - but it WILL give you insulin resistance on a long enough timeline, and when that sets in you can kiss your recuperative functions goodbye.

GH is a STRESS HORMONE. Thats it literal classification before big pharma attempted to do the same sleight of hand they did when they convinced women they "needed" cancer-fuel synthetic estrogens, another class of stress hormones.

point of this ranting? Why do all the guys from the golden era seem to be absolutely fine or otherwise their problems are completely expectant with their age group, while all the guys from the modern era are all sorts of fucked up? ITs the HGH abuse. And you can tell ronnie hasn't given that shit up either. probably listening to other morons who tell him his doctors are full of shit and he needs to get on that HGH test combo for maximum recovery 

he's 54 and yet he looks and moves like he's 90. He's got exactly one chance of recovery and that doesn't involve drugs and trying to go to the gym, it involves letting his surgeon do his fucking work without having to expect this retard will pop another screw out of place from over activity.

You make some good points, but from what I've read the gh/igf-1 and longevity/lifespan connection is complicated.
GH is neither all good nor all bad, just like with insulin, cortisol or any other hormone. GH and GH secretagogues are being investigated as being protective of *certain aspects* of aging, like some neurogenerative brain diseases. As far as insulin sensitivity, it's dosage related too, just like with testosterone, where restoring "normal" test increases it, which is not the case when pumping grams of anabolics.

Some would argue that a bodybuilders career/competitiveness can be extended quite a bit with gh, as we are seeing some bodybuilders compete for longer at a high level nowadays. Levrone took a lot of time off everything - what if he had used some low dosages of gh all those years, would his skin for example have shown less signs of aging/sagging when he made his comeback? We can't know, but could be...

What I'm saying is that we need some nuance on this subject.

[Fortress]

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Not only did Ronnie not pen that, but even his mind cannot think in such a reasoned manner.

I’ve interviewed the man. He’s pleasant but well below average in the intelligence department.

I do feel badly for him.

P.S. As a chocolate bodybuilder, Haney was better.

[milone79]

Nothing like starting a thread about the arguably the best bodybuilder that’s ever walked the face of the planet only to have turn into a complete character assassination. Jesus Christ, you guys talk about Ronnie being fucked in the head  

GOAT= Haney not Coleman!! Haney FIRST to win 8 Olympias! Never defeated on the Olympia stage unlike Ronnie....and still looks like a healthy retired bodybuilder today unlike Ronnie!! Oh and he did it all on half of the drugs that Ronald took!!

[Van_Bilderass]

Not only did Ronnie not pen that, but even his mind cannot think in such a reasoned manner.

I’ve interviewed the man. He’s pleasant but well below average in the intelligence department.

I do feel badly for him.

P.S. As a chocolate bodybuilder, Haney was better.

I watched half of the new Ronnie movie and some always have to point out that Ronnie is very smart. Here we had Peter McGough saying Ronnie was very smart, contrary to the impression some got. Regarding writing, I remember Chad Nicholls saying "Ronnie is very smart, you haven't seen his writing!" Maybe does write well, I don't know. He doesn't have the contemplative, "philosophical" style of some. You can have too much of that too, like in the case of Kai Greene, can't stand his style. Some think Kai must be very smart because I can't understand a thing he is saying.

Haney was amazing.

[LurkerNoMore]

Peter McGough was a terrible shill.  Never believe anything that schmoe says.

[falco]

He's a lying, philandering sack of shit who's ruined every woman he's been with, multiple divorces, grown and young kids across the country, and a drug-abusing washup who pushes snake oil shrinking creams on his website and IG that's universally panned and ridiculed even by his dung beetle followers on social media.

I thought it is the women who ruin men's life. Specially in America. Or by "ruined every woman", you mean, instead, he didn't let them ruin him?

[SquatsRule]

He responded better than anyone to training and drugs but his training was shit. Him and Branch have some of the worst form I have ever seen. Branch will most likely end up the same way.

[oldschoolfan]

Not only did Ronnie not pen that, but even his mind cannot think in such a reasoned manner.

I’ve interviewed the man. He’s pleasant but well below average in the intelligence department.

I do feel badly for him.

P.S. As a chocolate bodybuilder, Haney was better.

hey fortress there was a guy who used to post on here, i think his name was billy carp,  or was his screen name, he worked for metrx when ronnie coleman was signed to metrx he said ronnie was dumber than shit, like literally the dumbest body builder he ever met

[SquatsRule]

He supposedly graduated with honors at Grambling State.

[oldschoolfan]

He supposedly graduated with honors at Grambling State.

He majored in the custodial arts

[NarcissisticDeity]

He majored in the custodial arts

Accounting

[Kwon3]

Accounting

From Grambling university, a historically black college that strictly enforces racial quotas and doesn't fail anyone unless they set fire to the building.

If he could've used that degree for an CPA job or similar, he would've done that instead of serving pizzas with Dominos or being a part-time junkie cop arresting people for weed while illegal substances pumped through his drug-bloated body.

[Kwon3]

I watched half of the new Ronnie movie and some always have to point out that Ronnie is very smart. Here we had Peter McGough saying Ronnie was very smart, contrary to the impression some got. Regarding writing, I remember Chad Nicholls saying "Ronnie is very smart, you haven't seen his writing!" Maybe does write well, I don't know. He doesn't have the contemplative, "philosophical" style of some. You can have too much of that too, like in the case of Kai Greene, can't stand his style. Some think Kai must be very smart because I can't understand a thing he is saying.

Haney was amazing.

So basically an ex-writer of a defunct bodybuilding magazine that praised everyone who'd ever been on the cover, and Ronnie's ex-nutritionist/drug source who was paid by said bodybuilder to provide him with diet and drug services.

Yeah, great references you got there. How about you ask his mother next what she thinks of her son's IQ. Then again he did mail GH to her house instead of his so that suggests a few active brain cells in that stagnant swamp between his ears must be working.

[Kwon3]

He supposedly graduated with honors at Grambling State.

it isn't supposed, he graduated
and he put the degree in his spare sock drawer and forgot about it
since it's basically toilet paper
though to his credit, he never paid a dime into like white folks do to get the same accreditation from real universities

[Van_Bilderass]

So basically an ex-writer of a defunct bodybuilding magazine that praised everyone who'd ever been on the cover, and Ronnie's ex-nutritionist/drug source who was paid by said bodybuilder to provide him with diet and drug services.

Yeah, great references you got there. How about you ask his mother next what she thinks of her son's IQ. Then again he did mail GH to her house instead of his so that suggests a few active brain cells in that stagnant swamp between his ears must be working.

I didn't say he was smart, I have my own opinions on that.
He certainly comes across as stupid, which is why some need to defend him in the first place. It's possible he could write pretty well though. Look at Goodrum, he writes well, has some type of intelligence, but is lacking in other aspects, so to speak.

[Zillotch]

Look at Goodrum, he writes well, has some type of intelligence

lmfao

[Kwon3]

I didn't say he was smart, I have my own opinions on that.
He certainly comes across as stupid, which is why some need to defend him in the first place. It's possible he could write pretty well though. Look at Goodrum, he writes well, has some type of intelligence, but is lacking in other aspects, so to speak.

It's not that he doesn't know the words in those ghostwritten articles from FLEX. It's more that he wouldn't put them together that way. If you read his descriptions of his photos or vids on instagram, that's pretty much how he writes anywhere. You could say Twitter limits your reply size but I'm talking on his website or other social platforms that are less space-prohibitive...guy's just dumb. But in a way his lack of sophistication was his best asset in bodybuilding because not a lot of people who think outside the box would've stuck with it for 8 years until he won his first Olympia or all the setbacks he's had since retiring health-wise. Being intelligent and always seeing the possible angles to everything is only a blessing if you're good at exploiting them to make money, otherwise you end up a frustrated, typical 9-5 person who never made it and resents everyone else who did but is less intelligent than them (but maybe more likable, which he was).