Questions for John Hansen, Were you ever tempted?

[DroppingPlates]

Best  biceps machine they've ever made .

Which brand? Since it has a display, is it pneumatic?

[che]

Which brand? Since it has a display, is it pneumatic?

  I think is an old  Life Fitness Circuit , it was a  computerized machine with negative resistance , crazy pump.

[IRON CROSS]

How old is Vince? he really has the Knowledge of a 10 year old. To come on here & take such a beating because his ego is so big. So funny though. Why the hell has he blue stars? 

Grumpy - obese - bold - 76 yo

Blue stars : last placed on Paul Graham Ifbb Mr.Australia 1975 (that was 43 years ago)

[Vince B]

 I think is an old  Life Fitness Circuit , it was a  computerized machine with negative resistance , crazy pump.

Paul Graham gave me a frame from an Expo in Brisbane in 1986. No electric resistance. I converted it to pin loading. Guys used it in our gym for over a decade. When I started using it I found the pivot point was out by 2 inches. I made the modification and now it is an excellent biceps machine. Most bodybuilders don’t know how to improve machines. I had assumed that Life Fitness knew what they were doing re pivot points but I was mistaken. Recent machines are much improved.

[Vince B]

Another view of the Life Fitness modified biceps machine.

[JAGO]

Paul Graham gave me a frame from an Expo in Brisbane in 1986. No electric resistance. I converted it to pin loading. Guys used it in our gym for over a decade. When I started using it I found the pivot point was out by 2 inches. I made the modification and now it is an excellent biceps machine. Most bodybuilders don’t know how to improve machines. I had assumed that Life Fitness knew what they were doing re pivot points but I was mistaken. Recent machines are much improved.

Those pivot points are part of the design and are placed there  by engineers who use information taken from massive data samples which give numbers ( height, torso length, arm length ) for the average user. By moving them you may  have made it more comfortable for you, however companies ( perhaps shortsightedly ) don't design specifically for old Sheila's who think they know more than they actually do. What an ass.

J

[chrisbro]

Grumpy - obese - bold - 76 yo

Blue stars : last placed on Paul Graham Ifbb Mr.Australia 1975 (that was 43 years ago)

I saw on another thread he does not like exercise for fat loss, so we are Talking About a Fat old man who only Trains biceps?

[BSN]

Oh, well.. I think the topic should be renamed : Questions for Vince Basile, Were you ever tempted?

[chrisbro]

Oh, well.. I think the topic should be renamed : Questions for Vince Basile, Were you ever tempted?

I would like to see if his biceps are better than Albert beckles… Show us Vince.

[DroppingPlates]

Those pivot points are part of the design and are placed there  by engineers who use information taken from massive data samples which give numbers ( height, torso length, arm length ) for the average user. By moving them you may  have made it more comfortable for you, however companies ( perhaps shortsightedly ) don't design specifically for old Sheila's who think they know more than they actually do. What an ass.

J

Good point

[IRON CROSS]

Another view of the Life Fitness modified biceps machine.

FAKE photo, that gym DO NOT EXIST  

[DooM_]

I would like to see if his biceps are better than Albert beckles… Show us Vince.

but imagine how huge beckles arms would have been with the biceps supernator machine ??

[SuperTed]

Haha lol

That thing looks atrocious. It looks like it belongs in a junkyard for scrap metal.

Maybe Goodrum would buy it from Basile.

That's one of the machine's biggest problems. Even if it provides a good bicep workout, it has zero aesthetic appeal and just looks like a pile of scrap metal. What decent gym would want that contraption?
Why didn't Vince make any effort to improve it's look?

[DroppingPlates]

That's one of the machine's biggest problems. Even if it provides a good bicep workout, it has zero aesthetic appeal and just looks like a pile of scrap metal. What decent gym would want that contraption?
Why didn't Vince make any effort to improve it's look?

There are plenty of brands who look 'aesthetically appealing', but are far from stable, functional & flexible. Now what's most important when you care about getting results?

[SuperTed]

There are plenty of brands who look 'aesthetically appealing', but are far from stable, functional & flexible. Now what's most important when you care about getting results?

I totally agree, but if you're trying to sell a product, you should at least make it look like it isn't ready for the scrap heap.

[Vince B]

That's one of the machine's biggest problems. Even if it provides a good bicep workout, it has zero aesthetic appeal and just looks like a pile of scrap metal. What decent gym would want that contraption?
Why didn't Vince make any effort to improve it's look?

What you reveal is that you have never designed anything new. This is my one and only prototype. Lots of stainless steel involved. I have modified the machine several times since 2001. At least 3 major changes. Today it is simpler and much more user friendly. Still the best biceps machine ever made or conceived.

[Vince B]

Those pivot points are part of the design and are placed there  by engineers who use information taken from massive data samples which give numbers ( height, torso length, arm length ) for the average user. By moving them you may  have made it more comfortable for you, however companies ( perhaps shortsightedly ) don't design specifically for old Sheila's who think they know more than they actually do. What an ass.

J

Spoken like a complete ignoramus. I am about average in height for males. So if a machine fits me it will fit most people. Look at the hand grips. They adjust to suit most people re length of arms. People were using the machine for over a decade and didn't detect the problem. When I altered the pivot point it went from being a good biceps machine to an excellent one.

[DroppingPlates]

Spoken like a complete ignoramus. I am about average in height for males. So if a machine fits me it will fit most people. Look at the hand grips. They adjust to suit most people re length of arms. People were using the machine for over a decade and didn't detect the problem. When I altered the pivot point it went from being a good biceps machine to an excellent one.

Speaking of ignorance, you would fail a 101 statistics exam

[illuminati]

What you reveal is that you have never designed anything new. This is my one and only prototype. Lots of stainless steel involved. I have modified the machine several times since 2001. At least 3 major changes. Today it is simpler and much more user friendly. Still the best biceps machine ever made or conceived.

“Still the best biceps machine ever made or conceived”
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Okay Vince let’s be civil & ask a few sensible questions
Hopefully you will be able to supply sensible answers.

Says who ?
Has it been critically acclaimed ?
Why Do you believe it is superior to other machines ?
Do you really think Arnold / Sergio / M Mentzer / R Coleman / P Heath / L Scott etc
Would’ve had better or different biceps development had they used your machine ?

[Vince B]

I watched Phil Heath train arms and said wtf! How can he get big training like that?

The sad truth is drugs have ruined bodybuilding.

[JAGO]

Spoken like a complete ignoramus. I am about average in height for males. So if a machine fits me it will fit most people. Look at the hand grips. They adjust to suit most people re length of arms. People were using the machine for over a decade and didn't detect the problem. When I altered the pivot point it went from being a good biceps machine to an excellent one.

What a dick.

J

[illuminati]

“Still the best biceps machine ever made or conceived”
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Okay Vince let’s be civil & ask a few sensible questions
Hopefully you will be able to supply sensible answers.

Says who ?
Has it been critically acclaimed ?
Why Do you believe it is superior to other machines ?
Do you really think Arnold / Sergio / M Mentzer / R Coleman / P Heath / L Scott etc
Would’ve had better or different biceps development had they used your machine ?

I watched Phil Heath train arms and said wtf! How can he get big training like that?

The sad truth is drugs have ruined bodybuilding.

Is that it.... your answers to the questions I asked you.
You can’t even answer or justify your own statements,
It it any wonder you’re ridiculed & abused on here if
That’s all you can say.

[Vince B]

It appears that equipment isn’t critical for pros. End of story.

[DroppingPlates]

It appears that equipment isn’t critical for pros. End of story.

Response is critical. Response to training, nutrition & drugs.

Regarding training, you simply need stimulus and.you don't need fancy equipment for that.

[illuminati]

It appears that equipment isn’t critical for pros. End of story.

No Answers. As I thought.

End of Story. Yes agreed
Let’s not here any more spurious nonsensical claims about a Hugely
Over complicated machine that if lucky mimics what can be achieved
with a Simple Barbell or Dumbell.