Malcom Nance explains exactly how much Trump is in the bag for Russia

[Straw Man]

[thelamefalsehood]

I watched that on TV last night and laughed while it was on. That was nothing but 3 minutes of pure conjecture and opinion. The black fella said "I think" 5 times within the 90 seconds or so he was speaking. So basically he's saying I have no clue, but I think, just an opinion like every other a hole in the world. And why do you libs love the word Oligarch so much? Is that supposed to be super scary or something? Why not just say old rich white guys? I guess Oligarch scares the uninformed more. Great post though

[Straw Man]

I watched that on TV last night and laughed while it was on. That was nothing but 3 minutes of pure conjecture and opinion. The black fella said "I think" 5 times within the 90 seconds or so he was speaking. So basically he's saying I have no clue, but I think, just an opinion like every other a hole in the world. And why do you libs love the word Oligarch so much? Is that supposed to be super scary or something? Why not just say old rich white guys? I guess Oligarch scares the uninformed more. Great post though

LOL - since when has conjecture, opinion and just totally made up bullshit ever been an issue for Trump or Trumptards.  Keep in mind that Trump spent six years lying about Obama's birth certificate and all the "unbelievable" things that his investigators were finding that he promised to reveal.  Of course he didn't reveal shit and one day just decided that Obama's birth certificate was genuine.  No explanation for the 6 years of total bullshit.  That kind of thing is Trumptard currency.

Back to the present. we've all witnessed Trump doing exactly what Nance said.  Trying to break up NATO (something Putin has long wanted) and we've all seen him virtually blowing Putin in public while shitting on HIS OWN Intelligence Agencies

On Thursday we saw Dan Coats, FBI Director Chris Wray, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, National Security Adviser John Bolton, and National Security Agency Director Paul Nakasone hold a press conference to once again affirm that Russia interfered in our election in 2016 and we trying to do it again this year.  These guys all work for Trump

That same day Trump told a crowd of Trumptards that it was all a hoax

Oh yeah, we also learned this week that Trump eased sanctions on a Russian aluminum company (controlled by Oleg Deripaska, a member of Mr. Putin’s inner circle) just four months after imposing sanctions on them.  Maybe this was one of the things Trump gave away in his private meeting with his Russian handler Putin.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/opinion/deripaska-sanctions-russia-manafort.html

A few weeks ago Will Hurd Texas Republican member of Congress and former CIA agent is being manipulated by Putin

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/opinion/trump-russia-putin-republican-congress.html

Bottom line - If it walks like a Russian asset and talks like a Russian asset then the Trumptard is quite likely a Russian asset.  He even referred to himself as an asset of Russia and said that was a good thing.

Keep in mind we have no idea of Trumps financial obligations to Russians or what crimes (such as money laundering) that he's already helped them to commit.  I think those are the things that Putin has got on Trump.  The pee tape is nothing compared to that.  

[thelamefalsehood]

But still, with all that said, it's still conjecture on that one mans point of view. When you say, I think, it could just as easily be replaced with, in my opinion. A Trump proponent could just as easily sit in the same seat and give counter opinions and it would still just be conjecture.

And what's with you guys and Russia? You want to start WWIII? They have already said they can't match us in conventional warfare, nuclear first strikes would be on the table. In 2012 you guys laughed at Romney during the debates for bringing up Russia, now it's the be all end all.

[Straw Man]

But still, with all that said, it's still conjecture on that one mans point of view. When you say, I think, it could just as easily be replaced with, in my opinion. A Trump proponent could just as easily sit in the same seat and give counter opinions and it would still just be conjecture.

And what's with you guys and Russia? You want to start WWIII? They have already said they can't match us in conventional warfare, nuclear first strikes would be on the table. In 2012 you guys laughed at Romney during the debates for bringing up Russia, now it's the be all end all.

you say it's conjecture

so you're saying Trump didn't meet with the top 12 oligarchs in 2013 and then after that meeting was promoting the Putin agenda that Nance laid out.

That's all just conjecture by Nance ?

Does say maybe this happened?

Nope, he said this happened and others have said the same thing.  I'm pretty sure the Intelligence community in this country knows exactly what someone like Trump was doing when he was in Russia. 

We can all observe Trump actions since then which are blatantly pro-Russia and blatantly anti NATO, backing out of our treaty obligations, trying to break up (or disrupt) the European Union, etc.. basically everything Nance said.

He also said that the end goal of a US autocracy

Trump mused about being President for Life so again we Trump acting and doing exactly what Nance said

Nance has a long and well respected background
You can read it here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Nance

I guess you can also offer your opinions on Trumps actions and motivations and we'll see how they compare.  What's your background again?

Please share

[Pray_4_War]

It must really suck to be a liberal right now.  Trump is turning shit into gold all across the country and all they can do is spew bullshit about Russia.

[thelamefalsehood]

you say it's conjecture

so you're saying Trump didn't meet with the top 12 oligarchs in 2013 and then after that meeting was promoting the Putin agenda that Nance laid out.

That's all just conjecture by Nance ?

Does say maybe this happened?

Nope, he said this happened and others have said the same thing.  I'm pretty sure the Intelligence community in this country knows exactly what someone like Trump was doing when he was in Russia. 

We can all observe Trump actions since then which are blatantly pro-Russia and blatantly anti NATO, backing out of our treaty obligations, trying to break up (or disrupt) the European Union, etc.. basically everything Nance said.

He also said that the end goal of a US autocracy

Trump mused about being President for Life so again we Trump acting and doing exactly what Nance said

Nance has a long and well respected background
You can read it here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Nance

I guess you can also offer your opinions on Trumps actions and motivations and we'll see how they compare.  What's your background again?

Please share

I don't have to share shit with you bro. No offense, but you come off as a bitch on here constantly. I read this forum mostly, but hardly post down here. Guys like you seem a bit off kilter and stalkerish, like you only live for this board. So carry on and own me some more, doesn't bother me, I got a life

[Agnostic007]

It must really suck to be a liberal right now.  Trump is turning shit into gold all across the country and all they can do is spew bullshit about Russia.

For a guy who loves to read the bible and avoids Hollywood, how do you reconcile a pathological lying womanizing obnoxious egotistical jerk with the bible other than perhaps he is the antichrist?

[Pray_4_War]

For a guy who loves to read the bible and avoids Hollywood, how do you reconcile a pathological lying womanizing obnoxious egotistical jerk with the bible other than perhaps he is the antichrist?

I didn't elect Trump to be my pastor.  I care about how he governs, and by just about any metric Trump is killing it right now.

That's why Trumps critics are forced to talk about petty shit that they don't even care about like Stormy Daniels and Russia. 

Most of the criticism you just made are nothing more than your opinion.  On the other hand, 4.1% growth is 4.1% growth.

[Agnostic007]

I didn't elect Trump to be my pastor.  I care about how he governs, and by just about any metric Trump is killing it right now.

That's why Trumps critics are forced to talk about petty shit that they don't even care about like Stormy Daniels and Russia. 

Most of the criticism you just made are nothing more than your opinion.  On the other hand, 4.1% growth is 4.1% growth.

No doubt 4% growth is good. As Americans, are we supposed to ignore everything about a person as long as stocks are up and the economy is good? I don't see how people who believe the bible can endorse such an awful human being just because it means more money in their bank account. Almost seems the opposite of what Jesus taught.

[Coach is Back!]

It must really suck to be a liberal right now.  Trump is turning shit into gold all across the country and all they can do is spew bullshit about Russia.

Strawman is so fucking clueless it’s embarrassing yet comical

[Agnostic007]

Strawman is so fucking clueless it’s embarrassing yet comical

Translation - "Strawman and I hold a different view of how things are. I think my view is right, it's my view, so of course it's right... therefore, I will launch ad hominem attacks against him." 

[Pray_4_War]

No doubt 4% growth is good. As Americans, are we supposed to ignore everything about a person as long as stocks are up and the economy is good? I don't see how people who believe the bible can endorse such an awful human being just because it means more money in their bank account. Almost seems the opposite of what Jesus taught.

Saying that Trump is an awful human being is nothing more than your opinion.  I happen to think your wrong.  The FBI has been given free reign to dig into his personal history for the last 2 years looking for a crime.  They found nothing.  He's been a bit of a womanizer over the years but so have I, and I don't have 10 billion dollars and the temptations that go with it.  I don't pass judgement on his personal life.  He will answer to God for his sin and so will I.  Also, the alternative was Hilary Clinton.  Not exactly the picture of morality.  As far as what Jesus taught, you don't believe in Jesus so....

A.  How would you know?

and

B.  Why would you care?

[Agnostic007]

Saying that Trump is an awful human being is nothing more than your opinion.  I happen to think your wrong.  The FBI has been given free reign to dig into his personal history for the last 2 years looking for a crime.  They found nothing.  He's been a bit of a womanizer over the years but so have I, and I don't have 10 billion dollars and the temptations that go with it.  I don't pass judgement on his personal life.  He will answer to God for his sin and so will I.  Also, the alternative was Hilary Clinton.  Not exactly the picture of morality.  As far as what Jesus taught, you don't believe in Jesus so....

A.  How would you know?

and

B.  Why would you care?

A. The book is available for anyone to read

B. I only care to the point I find it contradictory to  say you believe in Jesus and then support an awful human being. And my awful I specifically mean, cheats on his wife likely more than once. Tells lies daily. You and I , I would hope, can get through an average day without lying. Why is it so hard for him? His obnoxious and mean spirited treatment of people and verbal attacks on people who he feels slighted him in the smallest way is both childish and boorish.  As an American, it matters to me that the POTUS at least have some semblance of compassion, integrity and decency. This man does not seem to possess those characteristics. My bank account is not my only metric on rating the government

[Pray_4_War]

A. The book is available for anyone to read

B. I only care to the point I find it contradictory to  say you believe in Jesus and then support an awful human being. And my awful I specifically mean, cheats on his wife likely more than once. Tells lies daily. You and I , I would hope, can get through an average day without lying. Why is it so hard for him? His obnoxious and mean spirited treatment of people and verbal attacks on people who he feels slighted him in the smallest way is both childish and boorish.  As an American, it matters to me that the POTUS at least have some semblance of compassion, integrity and decency. This man does not seem to possess those characteristics. My bank account is not my only metric on rating the government

So you think Hillary would have been a more compassionate and decent person to choose with more integrity?

As far as the bible being available for anyone to read, it is, but..........


Matthew 13

The Parable of the Sower

13 On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea. 2 And great multitudes were gathered together to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

3 Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: “Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. 5 Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. 6 But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. 8 But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”

[Pray_4_War]

Your heart is the rocky place Agnostic007.  You might have read or heard the word (I doubt it), but even if you did, it did not take root.  It bounced right off.

You did not understand it.

[Agnostic007]

Your heart is the rocky place Agnostic007.  You might have read or heard the word (I doubt it), but even if you did, it did not take root.  It bounced right off.

You did not understand it.

No real Scotsman is making a showing lately. While it probably helps you in some regard to think that anyone who didn't buy into the bible stories must somehow be ignorant of what it says, or has some "hard rocky heart" the same could be said of you for not believing in any number of other things or religions. And what would I have to gain by lying about reading the bible? I'm not like Trump. While reading the bible may seem like a very difficult task, and apparently it is for many believers, I spent a lot of time and years studying it. I was Christian for many years. I thought similar to you about why others didn't believe it. 

[Pray_4_War]

No real Scotsman is making a showing lately. While it probably helps you in some regard to think that anyone who didn't buy into the bible stories must somehow be ignorant of what it says, or has some "hard rocky heart" the same could be said of you for not believing in any number of other things or religions. And what would I have to gain by lying about reading the bible? I'm not like Trump. While reading the bible may seem like a very difficult task, and apparently it is for many believers, I spent a lot of time and years studying it. I was Christian for many years. I thought similar to you about why others didn't believe it. 

I'm very sad to hear that.

[mazrim]

No real Scotsman is making a showing lately. While it probably helps you in some regard to think that anyone who didn't buy into the bible stories must somehow be ignorant of what it says, or has some "hard rocky heart" the same could be said of you for not believing in any number of other things or religions. And what would I have to gain by lying about reading the bible? I'm not like Trump. While reading the bible may seem like a very difficult task, and apparently it is for many believers, I spent a lot of time and years studying it. I was Christian for many years. I thought similar to you about why others didn't believe it.  

You've already been caught making things up about the Bible/completely misinterpreting it by taking verses out of context and ignoring the whole of Scripture. You have not studied it thoroughly or you lacked the basic understanding of how to study it which is rather common nowadays unfortunately.

Also, Trump has done good things for religious liberty, promotion of pro-life, etc. Many on your side seem to equate Trump with having to be God/Jesus. He isn't and nobody thinks that unless you are a wacko. He is a man and light years ahead of Hillary. When he does wrong, he does wrong. When he does what is right, he does what is right. Very simple to differentiate the two.

[Agnostic007]

You've already been caught making things up about the Bible/completely misinterpreting it by taking verses out of context and ignoring the whole of Scripture. You have not studied it thoroughly or you lacked the basic understanding of how to study it which is rather common nowadays unfortunately.

Also, Trump has done good things for religious liberty, promotion of pro-life, etc. Many on your side seem to equate Trump with having to be God/Jesus. He isn't and nobody thinks that unless you are a wacko. He is a man and light years ahead of Hillary. When he does wrong, he does wrong. When he does what is right, he does what is right. Very simple to differentiate the two.

No, I haven't been caught doing that. You may not have understood it, but I assure you I did not take anything out of context. But please, post the example here so I can try and explain it to you again.

Many on my side just wish we had a president that was a decent human being who didn't lash out at people via Twitter like a spoiled school brat and told the truth a little more. That's all

[chaos]

Many on my side just wish we had a president that was a decent human being who didn't lash out at people via Twitter like a spoiled school brat and told the truth a little more. That's all

Getting shit done > twitter posts

[Pray_4_War]

Getting shit done > twitter posts

Bingo.  It's a results driven world and Trump has gotten results, big time.

[Agnostic007]

Bingo.  It's a results driven world and Trump has gotten results, big time.

end justifies the means...hell yeah

[chaos]

end justifies the means...hell yeah

Isn't that why cops use the pit maneuver and crash our tax dollar supplied cars into other cars? Or why the LAPD smokes a hostage so they can kill the perp?
Just a grander scale, that's all.

[Agnostic007]

Isn't that why cops use the pit maneuver and crash our tax dollar supplied cars into other cars? Or why the LAPD smokes a hostage so they can kill the perp?
Just a grander scale, that's all.

Its exactly like that