Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House

[ratherbebig]

neither side is wrong. youre wrong.

[Straw Man]

What if the poster says "I'm going to kill Donald Trump." Is that still the same deal or is it worse because instead of photos of him burning to death and being eaten, it's written in all-caps in English?
Do you think a picture of someone's home and their person dying or in flames is a drastic change from a death threat on the phone? How so?

Yeah, "what if" you completely changed it to a direct and explicit thread by a specific person

great question

Are you just going to keep making up scenarios that haven't actually happened

What if they someone makes a poster of an alien space ship shooting a laser beam into the oval office

Would that be a threat by the artist or by the aliens who are doing the shooting

[Kwon3]

Yeah, "what if" you completely changed it to a direct and explicit thread by a specific person

great question

Are you just going to keep making up scenarios that haven't actually happened

What if they someone makes a poster of an alien space ship shooting a laser beam into the oval office

Would that be a threat by the artist or by the aliens who are doing the shooting

Yes, it would. Whether someone says they'll kill you or hangs a picture of you to your front door with a bullet hole in your forehead and draws blood on it with magic marker, it's the exact same thing: You're promoting the idea of killing that person, unlawfully.

[ratherbebig]

Death of a President is a 2006 British docudrama political thriller film about the fictional assassination of George W. Bush, the 43rd U.S. President, on 19 October 2007 in Chicago, Illinois. The film is presented as a future history docudrama and uses actors, archival video footage as well as computer-generated special effects to present the hypothetical aftermath the event had on civil liberties, racial profiling, journalistic sensationalism and foreign policy.

[The Scott]

Fucking loser butt hurt trumplets. “Waah, I want free speech but I get mad at others using free speech”
That being said, a dead current president does cross a line.  

So quit snorting it up. 

[tres_taco_combo]

megadeth has the best art work

again... you cannot out troll trump he is the most epic troll ever - stop trying to beat him at this game - the left loose everytime

[Straw Man]

Yes, it would. Whether someone says they'll kill you or hangs a picture of you to your front door with a bullet hole in your forehead and draws blood on it with magic marker, it's the exact same thing: You're promoting the idea of killing that person, unlawfully.

my example was poster of aliens shooting a laser beam into the oval office

you think the Secret Service should take that seriously ?

[Kwon3]

my example was poster of aliens shooting a laser beam into the oval office

you think the Secret Service should take that seriously ?

Should they take the one Pearl Jam made seriously? That one's a lot more graphic, bloody, topical and real, while your example is hypothetical and hasn't been the subject of an uproar in news circles. So how about we stick to that one, since it actually happened. Are those images okay? Where do we draw the line between what's in bad taste and what violates the statutes concerning threatening the U.S. President or his family.

[Straw Man]

Should they take the one Pearl Jam made seriously? That one's a lot more graphic, bloody, topical and real, while your example is hypothetical and hasn't been the subject of an uproar in news circles. So how about we stick to that one, since it actually happened. Are those images okay? Where do we draw the line between what's in bad taste and what violates the statutes concerning threatening the U.S. President or his family.

no, they shouldn't
I thought I had made my opinion pretty clear on that

I see no direct threat to the POTUS from the band to the POTUS

for all we know this poster depicts the aftermath of an alien attack

Is that a space ship on the lawn.  What's that other dude doing?

Hanging out smoking a doobie?

Another clue is that Faux News is upset about.  That's how you know it's a non-issue

[Kwon3]

no, they shouldn't
I thought I had made my opinion pretty clear on that

I see no direct threat to the POTUS from the band to the POTUS

for all we know this poster depicts the aftermath of an alien attack

Is that a space ship on the lawn.  What's that other dude doing?

Hanging out smoking a doobie?

Another clue is that Faux News is upset about.  That's how you know it's a non-issue

And I thought I'd made it pretty clear when I asked you what constitutes a threat if displaying the duly elected sitting President has a corpse being picked apart by an eagle while the house he lives in burns to a crisp (something last done by the British with Canadian support in 1812) doesn't meet the requirements. You countered that's up to the Secret Service to define, but then you post a video of Ted Nugent as if that's a crystal clear example of what a threat looks like. He was visited by the Secret Service, so why should Pearl Jam sidestep the same treatment?

Pretty sure it isn't "aliens" but rather a full-on human attack that would cause the scene displayed in their material. Last I checked, previous Presidents were shot by humans, not extraterrestrials. Your name on here was made for this thread.

[Straw Man]

And I thought I'd made it pretty clear when I asked you what constitutes a threat if displaying the duly elected sitting President has a corpse being picked apart by an eagle while the house he lives in burns to a crisp (something last done by the British with Canadian support in 1812) doesn't meet the requirements. You countered that's up to the Secret Service to define, but then you post a video of Ted Nugent as if that's a crystal clear example of what a threat looks like. He was visited by the Secret Service, so why should Pearl Jam sidestep the same treatment?

Pretty sure it isn't "aliens" but rather a full-on human attack that would cause the scene displayed in their material. Last I checked, previous Presidents were shot by humans, not extraterrestrials. Your name on here was made for this thread.

fair enough

the cartoon eagle is clearly a legitimate threat to the POTUS

when I look at that poster I clearly see an alien (or maybe a time traveler) who has parked on the White House lawn and appears to be smoking something

[Kwon3]

fair enough

the cartoon eagle is clearly a legitimate threat to the POTUS

when I look at that poster I clearly see an alien (or maybe a time traveler) who has parked on the White House lawn and appears to be smoking something

Yep, I see that too. It's not Where's Waldo, so the images are pretty easy to define. Like a lot of art, it's abstract and features a lot of zany incongruous themes, including a guy flying over the entire scene on a John Deere lawnmower (possibly a slam at his 'redneck' base).

But the theme of the posters isn't aliens or lawnmowers, it's a burning building and a dead person, and that building is The White House and that person is the President.

But hey, let's not let small details get in the way of a really gnarly band and their edgy marketing materials.

[Straw Man]

Yep, I see that too. It's not Where's Waldo, so the images are pretty easy to define. Like a lot of art, it's abstract and features a lot of zany incongruous themes, including a guy flying over the entire scene on a John Deere lawnmower (possibly a slam at his 'redneck' base).

But the theme of the posters isn't aliens or lawnmowers, it's a burning building and a dead person, and that building is The White House and that person is the President.

But hey, let's not let small details get in the way of a really gnarly band and their edgy marketing materials.

agreed

[Rusty Trombone]

Pearl who?

Where is the Trump corpse on the poster,I can't find it

[HTexan]

So quit snorting it up. 

You stop snorting cum up first bitch. 

[Kwon3]

Pearl who?

Where is the Trump corpse on the poster,I can't find it

As you can see, decomposition set in quickly (or his skin was burnt off), so all that's left is his hair and a briefcase that perplexingly contains a hammer and sickle, symbols of the Soviet Communist regimes of the world and not what you'd expect a left-wing group to be associating with this administration. In the same photo an unseen man is holding a scroll with "2ND" on it, presumably a shot at the second amendment and its supporters, because destroying the White House and killing the President was possibly too subtle for some.

[Straw Man]

As you can see, decomposition set in quickly (or his skin was burnt off), so all that's left is his hair and a briefcase that perplexingly contains a hammer and sickle, symbols of the Soviet Communist regimes of the world and not what you'd expect a left-wing group to be associating with this administration. In the same photo an unseen man is holding a scroll with "2ND" on it, presumably a shot at the second amendment and its supporters, because destroying the White House and killing the President was possibly too subtle for some.

LOL - are you joking

Trump loves Russia and Putin loved the USSR so those symbols seem perfectly apt for Trump

Maybe the alien/time traveler (not sure what that dude on the lawn is supposed to be)

This cartoon could be the aftermath of a nuclear war or something like that

I still think it could be alien attack

Trump did just announce his intention to start a Space Force

[Coach is Back!]

Gayer than Matt Canning in thigh high leather boots

Hi Matt

[The Scott]

You stop snorting cum up first bitch. 

Fairly nice retort there, Hoover boy!   

[Kwon3]

LOL - are you joking

Trump loves Russia and Putin loved the USSR so those symbols seem perfectly apt for Trump

No joke, friend. He's on good terms with Russia and its dictator because that's good business for the U.S. as Russia weighs the pros and cons of building a huge natural gas pipeline with Germany that would crush America's exports or joining up with the great satan dressed in stars and stripes and sharing the wealth by bullying Europe while America forgives the invasion of Crimea in 2014.

Now, to address the real meaning of your tacit implication that these two are in cahoots and besties, then explain the extremely harsh sanctions Trump placed on Russia, which doesn't hurt Putin's billion-dollar bank accounts but those of the old scarf-wearing babushkas sitting at bus stops in Moscow or pushing carts around small villages outside Nizhni-Novgorod.

[Straw Man]

No joke, friend. He's on good terms with Russia and its dictator because that's good business for the U.S. as Russia weighs the pros and cons of building a huge natural gas pipeline with Germany that would crush America's exports or joining up with the great satan dressed in stars and stripes and sharing the wealth by bullying Europe while America forgives the invasion of Crimea in 2014.

Now, to address the real meaning of your tacit implication that these two are in cahoots and besties, then explain the extremely harsh sanctions Trump placed on Russia, which doesn't hurt Putin's billion-dollar bank accounts but those of the old scarf-wearing babushkas sitting at bus stops in Moscow or pushing carts around small villages outside Nizhni-Novgorod.

yes there is no doubt that Donald Trump is "on good terms with Russia and its dictator"

Its always good when we can find things we agree on

[IronMagazine.com]

Pearl Jam? LMFAO!
Now I just feel old, they were popular when I was in college, early 1990's.

[Kwon3]

they were popular when I was in college, early 1990's.

Wish they'd stayed there too.

[Powerlift66]

Horrible, sucky whiny band. Their music is horrific... Retards...

[Kwon]

You stop snorting cum up first bitch. 

Hi Matt