Which is More Important For Losing Weight, Diet, or Exercise?

[Kwon3]

Ok. So, let's start at step one to see how wrong I am. When the  other poster brought up 300 lb 80-year olds, you  believe that he was likely talking about 6'8" 80 year olds? Since he didn't mention a height in his very brief post, do you think it was more likely or less likely that he was talking about average height people? For a normal adult, is it impossible to tell from the context of his post?  

I'm not going to repost what I posted higher up on this page, Al. You're asking me to treat you like a special needs student and I'm not paid to post here, as you well know. We both know you hit a cul de sac 8 posts ago. Don't make this harder than it has to be.

[Al Doggity]

I'm not going to repost what I posted higher up on this page, Al. You're asking me to treat you like a special needs student and I'm not paid to post here, as you well know. We both know you hit a cul de sac 8 posts ago. Don't make this harder than it has to be.

You're saying that I didn't prove you wrong, when I literally posted you saying the opposite of what you claimed you posted. You say I'm asking you to treat me like a special needs student, while what you are actually doing is hiding in nonspecificity. You make a vague incorrect statement and then circle back around when it's proven wrong. I'm just trying to get you to be specific about what you mean, so we can actually have a debate like normal adults, which you claim you want. I suspect that's not actually what you want, but on the off-chance it is, it would be helpful to know what you actually mean. You've literally posted dozens of times today, so spare me the "I'm too busy" routine. You haven't clarified any of the stuff I asked you in my last post.

Obviously, answering simple questions and actually solidifying your argument would be beneath you, though. 

[Kwon3]

You're saying that I didn't prove you wrong, when I literally posted you saying the opposite of what you claimed you posted. You say I'm asking you to treat me like a special needs student, while what you are actually doing is hiding in nonspecificity. You make a vague incorrect statement and then circle back around when it's proven wrong. I'm just trying to get you to be specific about what you mean, so we can actually have a debate like normal adults, which you claim you want. I suspect that's not actually what you want, but on the off-chance it is, it would be helpful to know what you actually mean. You've literally posted dozens of times today, so spare me the "I'm too busy" routine. You haven't clarified any of the stuff I asked you in my last post.

Obviously, answering simple questions and actually solidifying your argument would be beneath you, though. 

I understand that by posting an uncharacteristically long post and justifying the unjustifiable to yourself, you'll feel like you walked away from this one-sided conversation with your head high as the clear winner. It's what all liberals are told to do, i.e. do their very best rather than what other people expect them to actually do and still feel like they really made a difference. Why would I want to mess with that delicate construct of your imagination? I'm a nice guy, Al. I don't call people names unless there's a reason, and it's rarely on the tail end of an argument I just lost. Try it, sometime. How can it hurt to be a better person?

[Stan Diego]

Al just give it up. You can't have a level headed conversation with someone who is never wrong. From weight loss, to Eminem, the death of John McCain, to the new movie about Joe Weider. Kwon3 has the final say. It's best to stay quiet and let him post. All day. Every day....

[Kwon3]

Al just give it up. You can't have a level headed conversation with someone who is never wrong. From weight loss, to Eminem, the death of John McCain, to the new movie about Joe Weider. Kwon3 has the final say. It's best to stay quiet and let him post. All day. Every day....

Thanks, nether. I knew you'd have my back on this one.

[Al Doggity]

I understand that by posting an uncharacteristically long post and justifying the unjustifiable to yourself, you'll feel like you walked away from this one-sided conversation with your head high as the clear winner.

Nice try.

It's what all liberals are told to do, i.e. do their very best rather than what other people expect them to actually do and still feel like they really made a difference. Why would I want to mess with that delicate construct of your imagination? I'm a nice guy, Al. I don't call people names unless there's a reason, and it's rarely on the tail end of an argument I just lost. Try it, sometime. How can it hurt to be a better person?

  Ooh. This was certainly a burn. I simply asked you to clarify what you meant so you would stop backpedaling, but I guess you can't take time out of your busy schedule of posting on this board to continue posting on this board. Not transparent at all.   You're full of shit  and your argument was poor. If you want to clarify your points (which you haven't done elsewhere in this thread), I'm ready to debate like a normal adult. Otherwise, you can do the same transparent backpedaling and tapdancing that you do whenever anyone challenges your bullshit.

[Kwon3]

Nice try.
 
  Ooh. This was certainly a burn. I simply asked you to clarify what you meant so you would stop backpedaling, but I guess you can't take time out of your busy schedule of posting on this board to continue posting on this board. Not transparent at all.  You're full of shit  and your argument was poor. If you want to clarify your points (which you haven't done elsewhere in this thread), I'm ready to debate like a normal adult. Otherwise, you can do the same transparent backpedaling and tapdancing that you do whenever anyone challenges your bullshit.

Yes, Al. We're all very impressed that you can structure a post with several quotes in it. It takes some getting used to and maybe a few edits but it looks like you definitely know what you're talking about. I've revised my original theory that you're a well-meaning but ignorant simpleton who loves to argue for the sake of arguing. You're actually a very perceptive, well-adjusted, erudite, and impressive guy who oozes gravitas and worldliness.

[Al Doggity]

Al just give it up. You can't have a level headed conversation with someone who is never wrong. From weight loss, to Eminem, the death of John McCain, to the new movie about Joe Weider. Kwon3 has the final say. It's best to stay quiet and let him post. All day. Every day....

Haha, that hip hop thread  was actually one of the threads I was thinking of when I said he likes to backpedal. He changed his argument in literally every post. I get that his thing is to be vague and then try to finesse that into a new argument when he's proven wrong.

[Kwon3]

Haha, that hip hop thread  was actually one of the threads I was thinking of when I said he likes to backpedal. He changed his argument in literally every post. I get that his thing is to be vague and then try to finesse that into a new argument when he's proven wrong.

I'm glad my previous posts stuck with you enough to remember them and use them as a reference. It shows you care about me and what I post. I wish I could return the favor, but alas, I don't read your posts unless you choose to reply to mine. In that case, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but you consistently let me down. I'm hoping you'll turn that around and show me my enthusiasm for you as a better poster isn't totally wrong. As in that thread, though, you've failed to make a case for any backpedaling, lying, misquotations, or any number of the other aspersions you cast on me and others here whenever you don't get your way. So...the jury's still out.

[Al Doggity]

Yes, Al. We're all very impressed that you can structure a post with several quotes in it. It takes some getting used to and maybe a few edits but it looks like you definitely know what you're talking about. I've revised my original theory that you're a well-meaning but ignorant simpleton who loves to argue for the sake of arguing. You're actually a very perceptive, well-adjusted, erudite, and impressive guy who oozes gravitas and worldliness.

Are these the insults you never use?   Meanwhile,  it's pretty obvious that my edit had to do with pressing the back button and the 30 second delay on getbig, but, sure only idiots correct their posts.  

Meanwhile, you're still posting in this thread... you could easily answer the questions and we could have a debate like a normal adult.

[Kwon3]

Are these the insults you never use?   Meanwhile,  it's pretty obvious that my edit had to do with pressing the back button and the 30 second delay on getbig, but, sure only idiots correct their posts.  

Meanwhile, you're still posting in this thread... you could easily answer the questions and we could have a debate like a normal adult.

No, Al. I simply reply to your posts at roughly the same cadence you do. That's how adults converse, in real-time and with minimal delays to make sure the flow of the conversation doesn't lapse into desuetude or lose its momentum. You should know, considering most of your posts here are dedicated to fomenting unrest among other users or arguing them into leaving the thread. When that fails, there's always your trusty lego box with insults you learned in grade school. I'm afraid neither intimidates me very much, though.

[Al Doggity]

I'm glad my previous posts stuck with you enough to remember them and use them as a reference. It shows you care about me and what I post.

That's one way to look at it.However, a more accurate way would be that you made an impression as a moron and a liar. I specifically said that you made a negative impression in my last post, so I'm not sure how you could confuse that with caring.

[Kwon3]

That's one way to look at it.However, a more accurate way would be that you made an impression as a moron and a liar. I specifically said that you made a negative impression in my last post, so I'm not sure how you could confuse that with caring.

Well, that's your perception. But then, we've established that you see and believe what you want to see, rather than what's actually there. Which, by definition, is the nature of delusion.

[Al Doggity]

No, Al. I simply reply to your posts at roughly the same cadence you do. That's how adults converse, in real-time and with minimal delays to make sure the flow of the conversation doesn't lapse into desuetude or lose its momentum. You should know, considering most of your posts here are dedicated to fomenting unrest among other users or arguing them into leaving the thread. When that fails, there's always your trusty lego box with insults you learned in grade school. I'm afraid neither intimidates me very much, though.

Very few people respond to message boards in real time. Most people have lives . But, again, nice try.

[Al Doggity]

Well, that's your perception. But then, we've established that you see and believe what you want to see, rather than what's actually there. Which, by definition, is the nature of delusion.

Established? By ignoring simple questions? How did we establish this?

[Kwon3]

Very few people respond to message boards in real time. Most people have lives . But, again, nice try.

A cursory scan of various arguments ongoing in different threads on the first page suggest your analysis is as flawed as ever, Al. Conversations are conversations, whether on message boards or off. I'm not sure what you define as having a life, as that's a nebulous concept. One man's life is another man's lunch break. Either way, it's of no relevance to the discussion.

[Kwon3]

Established? By ignoring simple questions? How did we establish this?

*waves hand across this thread*

[Al Doggity]

A cursory scan of various arguments ongoing in different threads on the first page suggest your analysis is as flawed as ever, Al. Conversations are conversations, whether on message boards or off. I'm not sure what you define as having a life, as that's a nebulous concept. One man's life is another man's lunch break. Either way, it's of no relevance to the discussion.

No, it doesn't. There are often breaks of several hours to days between posts on message boards, which is one of the reasons  a thread of a few pages can go on for several days. Almost no one sits patiently waiting on new posts on message boards to reply immediately.

[Kwon3]

No, it doesn't. There are often breaks of several hours to days between posts on message boards, which is one of the reasons  a thread of a few pages can go on for several days. Almost no one sits patiently waiting on new posts on message boards to reply immediately.

Other than us two, you mean.

[Al Doggity]

Other than us two, you mean.

Yeah, that was implied.    You seem to live on this board, but even in threads I'm active in, I don't usually post 10-20 times over the course of an hour, and I'm looking at other sites in between posting in this thread.

I am honestly hoping you will start a "normal adult" debate soon. Based on what you posted, it must be killing you to lob those childish insults. I'm more interested in a real debate about the original point of contention. I also know you could never go through with it, so this bs is fine.

[Kwon3]

Yeah, that was implied.    You seem to live on this board, but even in threads I'm active in, I don't usually post 10-20 times over the course of an hour, and I'm looking at other sites in between posting in this thread.

I am honestly hoping you will start a "normal adult" debate soon. Based on what you posted, it must be killing you to lob those childish insults. I'm more interested in a real debate about the original point of contention. I also know you could never go through with it, so this bs is fine.

I don't agree with your perceptions of my online time, Al, and I don't see anything to corroborate it, either. As you know, people can multitask and do other things besides posting. Or maybe you didn't know and I'm teaching you something new. Try it sometime, it'll help relieve your stress at work, assuming you're employed and have a work station as your main work tool. I'm not sure where you come up with these ideas, but I'm afraid I'm not going to validate them for you. What's true in your head isn't true in anyone else's necessarily. That's something you seem to have problems grappling with, and I suspect the delusion I referred to earlier is the reason. You believe what you want to believe, regardless of what's actually true of anything. You also seem to bear a great deal of aggression towards perfect strangers and people who don't agree with you views. It seems to suggest you suffer from anti-social tendencies, though I would leave an actual diagnostic to people who have the training.

[Al Doggity]

I don't agree with your perceptions of my online time, Al, and I don't see anything to corroborate it, either. As you know, people can multitask and do other things besides posting. Or maybe you didn't know and I'm teaching you something new. Try it sometime, it'll help relieve your stress at work, assuming you're employed and have a work station as your main work tool. I'm not sure where you come up with these ideas, but I'm afraid I'm not going to validate them for you. What's true in your head isn't true in anyone else's necessarily. That's something you seem to have problems grappling with, and I suspect the delusion I referred to earlier is the reason. You believe what you want to believe, regardless of what's actually true of anything. You also seem to bear a great deal of aggression towards perfect strangers and people who don't agree with you views. It seems to suggest you suffer from anti-social tendencies, though I would leave an actual diagnostic to people who have the training.

You just said that you respond to posts immediately and you've made nearly 100 posts today. You've been at it for most of the day, so that's a strong indication you don't have much else going on.

Of course, I'm sure you didn't just say that, you said the opposite, you meant something you haven't even posted yet, but you can't clarify it because I might twist your words. 

[Kwon3]

You just said that you respond to posts immediately and you've made nearly 100 posts today. You've been at it for most of the day, so that's a strong indication you don't have much else going on.

Of course, I'm sure you didn't just say that, you said the opposite, you meant something you haven't even posted yet, but you can't clarify it because I might twist your words. 

I don't keep track of my posting frequency. I'm glad you're doing it for me, so I can know how much or how little I posted. That's appreciated.

I'm not seeing the relevance of that factor in this conversation, Al. I also disagree that it tells you anything more than what it tells you, namely how many posts I made today.

[Al Doggity]

I don't keep track of my posting frequency. I'm glad you're doing it for me, so I can know how much or how little I posted. That's appreciated.

I'm not seeing the relevance of that factor in this conversation, Al. I also disagree that it tells you anything more than what it tells you, namely how many posts I made today.

No, posting a lot-typically long-winded posts- and then specifically saying that you do, in fact, wait on the site for new posts so you can respond immediately like they are a real-time conversation does say a lot about how little you've got going on otherwise. It's one thing to be an especially active poster, but the waiting for posts to respond in real time part kinda confirms that your life revolves around this board.  It isn't how most people approach posting on this board. I looked at your post count  after you claimed you were too busy to respond to the questions I posed earlier. I was legit surprised by how high your daily post count was.  You can post however much you want, but the things you said were pretty strong indicators that, at this point in your life, posting here is one of your main priorities. And I seriously doubt it has anything to do with an ability to multi-task.

[Kwon3]

No, posting a lot-typically long-winded posts- and then specifically saying that you do, in fact, wait on the site for new posts so you can respond immediately like they are a real-time conversation does say a lot about how little you've got going on otherwise. It's one thing to be an especially active poster, but the waiting for posts to respond in real time part kinda confirms that your life revolves around this board.  It isn't how most people approach posting on this board. I looked at your post count  after you claimed you were too busy to respond to the questions I posed earlier. I was legit surprised by how high your daily post count was.  You can post however much you want, but the things you said were pretty strong indicators that, at this point in your life, posting here is one of your main priorities. And I seriously doubt it has anything to do with an ability to multi-task.

I don't think anything you wrote there is true, as it's consistently absent of any corroboration or substantiation that isn't opinion- or perception-based. In other words, you haven't brought anything new, original, or factual to the table. You're basically in an echo chamber, agreeing with your own posts and glad-handing your gimmick friend Stan who's unfortunately averse to posting on his real account, as is the norm on here.