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Does is get much better than HEAT???
« on: September 01, 2018, 08:10:26 AM »
Probably the greatest film of its type. IMO....it does get better than Michael Mann's 1995 HEAT. Each guy near the top of his game. Tremendous story that is deeper than what is on the surface in so many ways. Greatest gunbattle ever. Pacino, Deniro, Kilmer, Sizemore, Trejo. Mature characters....grown men...not boys. Sizemore's line..." For me...the action is the juice"

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2018, 08:21:34 AM »
Jon Voight was awesome too

And the Black dude from the All State Insurance commercial

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2018, 08:25:18 AM »
One correction, DeNiro is no man, just a whiny pussy.


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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2018, 08:31:36 AM »
One correction, DeNiro is no man, just a whiny pussy.



Exactly

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2018, 08:43:40 AM »
One correction, DeNiro is no man, just a whiny pussy.


I wonder how much that guy gets paid to carry DeWhino around?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2018, 09:28:06 AM »
I can still watch DeNiro and Schwarzenegger movies from 20-30 years ago, without mentally connecting them to their current political agendas.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2018, 09:29:53 AM »
A lot of sensitive snowflakes in this thread whining about someones political leanings.  :D :D :D
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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2018, 09:34:12 AM »
One correction, DeNiro is no man, just a whiny pussy.



Ironic, that the media portrayed Deniro as "brave" to put forth his profanity laced tirade.  How brave does one have to be to say something like that in front of an entire crowd that agrees with him?  Not brave at all, just classless.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2018, 10:12:28 AM »
just makes one look uneducated when you use the F word and the president.. regardless who the pres is...

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2018, 10:45:02 AM »
Its a good film. Not one as frequently great or "deep" as its fanboys like to pretend. Its certainly iconic, but if I bet if I pressed you to on the spot describe the characters to me beyond their physical characteristics, you'd struggle without running to google to find some shit that fanboys have filled in the blanks after the fact. Its cops and robbers done with a competent director and a great DP, but at the end of the day people remember that film because of a few iconic scenes and because of a gimmick (having de niro and pacino in the same scene) more than they do because it was well written or anything like that. (quite the opposite, Mann's dialogue is clunky. Pacino isn't roaring and chewing scenary because he's an indulgent actor, he's doing it to inject some life into the wooden script)

Mann's best film is definitely Collateral IMO which not coincidentally is also one of the few he got someone else to do the writing. Actually I think its the only film he directed that he didn't also write.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2018, 04:28:47 PM »
I can still watch DeNiro and Schwarzenegger movies from 20-30 years ago, without mentally connecting them to their current political agendas.

This is true.

I have learned to think of them as little more than "talking props".

This allows me to watch and enjoy quality movies without thinking of these assholes in their everyday life thinking and spewing nonsense.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2018, 04:40:17 PM »

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2018, 05:01:08 PM »
He was making a move, I had to get it on.


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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2018, 05:16:48 PM »
Midnight Run is also highly underrated. Entertaining movie where Deniro comes off as likable.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2018, 05:22:13 PM »
just makes one look uneducated when you use the F word and the president.. regardless who the pres is...

Classless and uneducated just like Trump.  He is so well spoken isn't he? 

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2018, 05:38:55 PM »
Midnight Run is also highly underrated. Entertaining movie where Deniro comes off as likable.

Agreed.

Hard to believe I could get through a movie with both DeNiro and Charles Grodin, but it works well.

Also, a big fan of the late Dennis Farina.


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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2018, 05:51:34 PM »
Fuck DeNiro.

Glad he’ll soon be dead.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2018, 06:39:58 PM »
I could name a few, it is a good movie though.  Shit, Shawshank Redemption was a better movie. 

And you talk about it having "wooden script", as far as dialogue goes it does not get much better than any Tarantino movie.  It's amazing how he puts together just the little inane conversations in the movie.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2018, 06:44:33 PM »
It would be better to say that it is one of the best cop/robber movies ever.

I have the fancy two disc DVD and it's very cool.

But it is a long film and I have to be in the mood to watch it.

However, it is one of those films on my list that I tend to watch at least once a year.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2018, 06:44:55 PM »
Never liked him or his acting. Always came across as unlikable in every role and one-dimensional when playing stereotypical Italian-Americans. Possible exception would be in role as a long-haired Vietnam Veteran in Jacknife, but that was more due to Ed Harris's manic insouciance as Dave Flanagan than De Niro's acting, which came off as whiny and self-conscious throughout.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2018, 06:54:54 PM »



I have a half-chub right now.  Gotta love the A1 shorty carbine.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2018, 07:18:07 PM »
The street shootout scene is a go to for testing out 7.1 speakers.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2018, 08:59:37 PM »
I like Mann's "Thief" better, but Heat probably is the best large scale gun fight in cinema history. Peckinpah is the only one that really competes.

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Re: Does is get much better than HEAT???
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2018, 09:08:20 PM »
Also, as far as heist films, Kubrick's 1956 "The Killing" is another classic. If anyone's never seen it, there's a nice copy here -

https://vimeo.com/275618059 .