DId Andre the Giant use steroids like most of his WWF peers?

[Dave D]

Thanks for sharing that vignette. Not many people on here have had contact with professional athletes outside the narrow prism of bodybuilding, and as longtime viewer of the WWF (and early WWE), I've always wanted to know more about the superstars off the stage. As we saw with Benoit and a few others, they, like a lot of us, have a dark side hidden from the view under the glare of the lights and cameras and the millions of fans inside & outside the venues where they perform so often and passionately for our entertainment.

Never liked Razor Ramon/Scott Hall but this recent video of him reminded me of the old shoot videos the guys did for the WWE.

Scott is a good dude but he has his demons. Xpac is another good guy with issues.

[SOMEPARTS]

Kane, Undertaker and Nash all used at one point. Look at some older stuff, Kane is fucking massive, Undertaker and Nash were pretty big also, especially for their heights.

I thought he was trolling.

[polychronopolous]

[Montague]

You didn't see Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, Andre, or Nash shrink like this, which is why I don't think they were running anything. But like I said, we'll never know, because these guys all claim natural in official interviews.

I don't know about the others, but I remember Nash admitting to past steroid use on one of the big news networks shortly after the Benoit tragedy. I believe the segment was suggesting that PED's made Benoit snap, and Nash was arguing that they don't have that effect on most users - citing himself as an example among many others who currently and/or have used over the years.

[Kwon3]

I don't know about the others, but I remember Nash admitting to past steroid use on one of the big news networks shortly after the Benoit tragedy. I believe the segment was suggesting that PED's made Benoit snap, and Nash was arguing that they don't have that effect on most users - citing himself as an example among many others who currently and/or have used over the years.

Could be. But as I mentioned at least three times to other people in the thread, I was specifically referring to the current roster of super-tall men not being users rather than historical wrestlers from a long time ago. As you know, if Nash used in the past but stopped doing so later, it would be irrelevant as the effects of the tissue-building benefits would've worn off a long time earlier, unless he continuously was on them throughout his contracted period with the company. There's guys who fit that description, most of them tiny tits who didn't last long and a few freakish guys like Batista and Masters, but I still feel the guys over 6'4" relied on their natural build for most of their tenure, and certainly today as the WWE appears to be downsizing a lot of his talent after all the negative press associated with ex-wrestlers dying or getting very sick once they got kicked out or retired.

[Powerlift66]

You are 100% right. That Razor guy was around that night but was walking around the place. I didn't have any interaction with him. Some of these wrestlers get so wrapped up into character that the lines between reality and fiction get blurred. Scott Steiner comes to mind.

There was a wrester named Tiger...Something I can't remember. He was Indian. I was in a club in Toronto and he literally cleaned house. I'm telling you he was a maniac. As a person attending the club...it was crazy how this guy busted these (pretty damn big, steroided up) bouncers. I understand that steroids don't make the fighter but these guys were getting thrown around like they were toys.

One thing is for certain, when you see these wrestlers in public...like bars, clubs...you may not know who they are but you know enough that they are somebody just by how they look. 

Tiger Ali Singh or Tiger Jeet Singh Jr. maybe?

[SuperTed]

Tiger Ali Singh or Tiger Jeet Singh Jr. maybe?

Tiger Ali Singh most likely since he was from that era. Was a pretty large individual with a kick-boxing background so certainly would be capable of doing some damage if he wanted to.

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Andre & wrestling   

[FREAKgeek]

he was so huge already, did he take steroids to become more muscular?


is there a good book with accurate/true inside info on what really went on in the WWF?

He was fit in his younger days but then became an obese drunkard, just relying on his size and status. So if he did use them, it was just for a quick fix.


They said Andre had incredible pulling power, pushing nothing special. It would have been interesting if he took powerlifting seriously and went all out.

[SuperTed]

He was fit in his younger days but then became an obese drunkard, just relying on his size and status. So if he did use them, it was just for a quick fix.


They said Andre had incredible pulling power, pushing nothing special. It would have been interesting if he took powerlifting seriously and went all out.

It would also have been interesting how Big Show would have done had he taken up PL or Strongman and went all out to win.

He made lifting even the +300lb wrestlers look so easy and effortless, almost like he was picking up a child. I'm sure he had the genetics to have become a world class Strongman had he pursued it.

[FREAKgeek]

It would also have been interesting how Big Show would have done had he taken up PL or Strongman and went all out to win.

He made lifting even the +300lb wrestlers look so easy and effortless, almost like he was picking up a child. I'm sure he had the genetics to have become a world class Strongman had he pursued it.

Yeah. Problem was is, no money in it.

[Powerlift66]

Yeah. Problem was is, no money in it.

Yup, thats why Mark Henry did it for fun, then went into wrestling for the $$$.
Not much money at all in strength sports. Not sure what the WSM prize money even is? The Arnold of course pays the most, and it isnt much:

Arnold Strongman Classic 2018 Results & Prize Money

Hafthor Bjornsson from Iceland $72,000
Brain Shaw from USA, $22,000
Mikhail Shivlyakov from Russia, $17,000
Jean Francois “JF” Caron from Poland, $12,000
Mateusz Kieliszkowski from Canada, $10,000
Jerry Pritchett from Phoenix, Ariz., $6,500
Matjaz Belsak from Slovenia, $6,500
Rauno Heinla from Estonia, $4,000
Dimitar Savatinov from Bulgaria, $3,000
Mateusz Ostaszewski from Poland, $2,000

[illuminati]

Its hard to speculate who is & isn't using just off physical looks
Some use little & get great results & physique others get little results & little if any physique improvement
or they are not after having the "better Physique"

Clearly the overall look of the physiques in WWF are less Bodybuilder type now.

[polychronopolous]

I don't know about the others, but I remember Nash admitting to past steroid use on one of the big news networks shortly after the Benoit tragedy. I believe the segment was suggesting that PED's made Benoit snap, and Nash was arguing that they don't have that effect on most users - citing himself as an example among many others who currently and/or have used over the years.

He also admitted it during a shoot interview talking about his early gimmicks. He was a bouncer at a popular strip club in Atlanta just prior to entering WCW so I guess he needed the supplementation.




Here he is seen tipping over a car in a junkyard with his first teammate Corey Pendarvis.

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Boozing & fat kill him, U need to see doco 'Andre the giant' .

[Montague]

He also admitted it during a shoot interview talking about his early gimmicks. He was a bouncer at a popular strip club in Atlanta just prior to entering WCW so I guess he needed the supplementation.




Here he is seen tipping over a car in a junkyard with his first teammate Corey Pendarvis.

Ranks right up there with his Oz gimmick.

Did Dusty have the pencil during this time?

[Kwon3]

My favorite tag team were Legion of Doom when I was growing up and watching WWF weekly, because of how scary they looked:

[njflex]

My favorite tag team were Legion of Doom when I was growing up and watching WWF weekly, because of how scary they looked:

AWA/NWA DAYS THEY WERE LARGER ESP HAWK HE WAS LEAN AND BIG,ANIMAL WAS PRETTY MUCH THICK NO ABS THROUGHOUT,HAWK GOT SOFT IN WWF'HIS LOOK'

[Kwon3]

AWA/NWA DAYS THEY WERE LARGER ESP HAWK HE WAS LEAN AND BIG,ANIMAL WAS PRETTY MUCH THICK NO ABS THROUGHOUT,HAWK GOT SOFT IN WWF'HIS LOOK'

Yeah, that's when they were the Road Warriors. They were the first to wear face paint (and wear it well) in the entire industry, and didn't really act much in their fights because they didn't have to - they just crushed all opposition. There was one fight in the early 1990s where one of them took a spike off his shoulder pads and tried to blind Dusty Rhodes with it; I think they got fired after that one. Rhodes also got fired for blading someone's forehead on another wrestling league as well, I think TBN, when they'd banned blood from their fights.

RIP Hawk. Don't get badasses like that in this game anymore.

[FREAKgeek]

Boozing & fat kill him, U need to see doco 'Andre the giant' .

That didn't help but his gh problem is what really did him in.


And who cares if Andre used or didn't. It holds absolutely no significance.

[polychronopolous]

Ranks right up there with his Oz gimmick.

Did Dusty have the pencil during this time?

Yeah I think so. Hearing the stories told by Jim Cornette of just how screwed up the booking sessions were under Jim Herd are freaking legendary. They really had a chance to at least give Vince McMahon a run for his money for the first and middle part of the 90s and totally blew it.

As for Oz....

"I'm in a lime green outfit with a cape that weighs 200 pounds. And not only am I wearing a dunce cap but I am also wearing a rubber mask of an old man that I pull off and it's me underneath"

[Schnauzer]

Did Andre the Giant have a massive dong? Asking for a friend....

[Kwon3]

Did Andre the Giant have a massive dong? Asking for a friend....

lol, of course he did
welcome back

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Did Andre the Giant have a massive dong? Asking for a friend....

again  : Andre the Giant ,documentary & Ric Flair comments  

[Schnauzer]

lol, of course he did
welcome back

Thanks, bro. I've been busy with work and school so I haven't been around in a while. I noticed you added a 3, what's up with that?