Are men responsible to pay for dinner on a date

[chaos]

Facing more than a decade in prison, being held on $315,000 bail, for skipping out on a grand total of $1,000 in food over 8 or 9 dates?

Equality!!

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/08/27/dine-and-dash-dater-paul-gonzales-pleads-not-guilty/


LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) — A man made infamous for his less-than-gentlemanly treatment of female dates he found online appeared in court today, and he could face more than decade in jail if convicted of his courting crimes. Paul Gonzales pleaded not guilty to extortion, grand theft and other charges stemming from his repeated “dine-and-dash” dates with women he contacted on dating apps.

His alleged crimes go back to 2016 and apparently ended earlier this year, when one of his latest victims was left to cover the $130 check for a shrimp and filet mignon dinner at Smitty’s Bar in Pasadena. Prosecutors say Gonzales, 45, has left eight women with bills totaling about $1,000. One of his victims told CBS she was happy the chickens — none of which he ordered — were coming home to roost. “I’m ecstatic,” said a woman who goes by “Michelle.” “I think justice is served. I hope he gets what he deserved.”
Another one of his victims who goes by “Hunter” joked about his current meal regimen. “He doesn’t have to worry about any meals now; he’s gonna get three square meals a day,” said Hunter. She was stiffed on the check at Mercado, also in Pasadena. Gonzales is being held on $315,000 bail. If convicted, Gonzales faces up 13 years in state prison.
He is scheduled to appear in court again on Sept. 7.

[Fortress]

Huh. That seems a bit harsh, yeah.

And re: broads on dinner dates, no, the man has zero obligation to pay the tab. Equality and all that. Of course, if he’s hoping to dip his wick ...

Chicks always hold the cards as long as dudes want the kunt.

[Henda]

10 years for that? You can kill someone over here and serve less than that.
No man is ever obligated to pay for some dumb whores food, women who need to be taken out on for dinner are far too much effort

[Tapeworm]

I'm a feminist.  The bitch pays her half.

[robcguns]

California courts,unreal.that state is fucked.

[tres_taco_combo]

if the man asks her out for a dinner date - then yes he is too pay for the meal/drinks

[Irongrip400]

I’m assuming he would get up after he ate and said he was going to the bathroom and then just left?  I always paid the tab when I was dating and now I’m married I still do. Either way, this dude is a douche but shouldn’t have to anything else than pay half and whatever court costs are.

[Primemuscle]

Does the punishment fit the crime? I say no.

It's good to be aware that stuff like this goes on. It would be interesting to know if the women actually paid the bill. How long did they know the guy before going on an expensive date? My advice is to meet up for something casual, like coffee, before embarking on an full-blown high-end meal.

There's something very fishy with this whole affair.

[IroNat]

Take your dates to McDonalds and save $$.

[El Diablo Blanco]

He should pay his fair share so he was skipping out entirely

[Kwon3]

If you ask me, he was just spreading around some much-deserved karma for all the dates where men picked up the tab and never heard from their dates again or got accused of this or that false charge, and any variation of the above.

Question arises: If it had been a woman who stiffed a dozen men with a bill, would the public and their friends have started a grassroots campaign on social media to turn the public against those women and convince the "victim" to accuse her of the same charges this guy's facing? No, they would tell him to buck up and get over it, and probably chastise him for even suggesting that a woman should pay the meal.

Double standards do exist, but they're virtually all against men in 2018. Come to think of it, an easy way around that isn't to change the minds of the mindless idiots in society but just state up front that you won't be paying for any purchases on a date. Sure, the women will never agree to that, but you just saved yourself 10 years in a Californian prison and a black bunk mate who stares at you all night and smell like Goodrum's sneakers.

[Thin Lizzy]

As long as women have pussies, men will have to pay.

[The_Punisher]

yes, as long as these Hoes keep thinking if you want the Drawers bad enough, you'll do whatever they ask for

[falco]

Fuck gynocentrism.
Fuck bitches.
All of them.

[CalvinH]

Facing more than a decade in prison, being held on $315,000 bail, for skipping out on a grand total of $1,000 in food over 8 or 9 dates?

Equality!!

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/08/27/dine-and-dash-dater-paul-gonzales-pleads-not-guilty/


LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) — A man made infamous for his less-than-gentlemanly treatment of female dates he found online appeared in court today, and he could face more than decade in jail if convicted of his courting crimes.
Paul Gonzales pleaded not guilty to extortion, grand theft and other charges stemming from his repeated “dine-and-dash” dates with women he contacted on dating apps.



His alleged crimes go back to 2016 and apparently ended earlier this year, when one of his latest victims was left to cover the $130 check for a shrimp and filet mignon dinner at Smitty’s Bar in Pasadena.
Prosecutors say Gonzales, 45, has left eight women with bills totaling about $1,000.
One of his victims told CBS she was happy the chickens — none of which he ordered — were coming home to roost.
“I’m ecstatic,” said a woman who goes by “Michelle.” “I think justice is served. I hope he gets what he deserved.”
Another one of his victims who goes by “Hunter” joked about his current meal regimen.
“He doesn’t have to worry about any meals now; he’s gonna get three square meals a day,” said Hunter. She was stiffed on the check at Mercado, also in Pasadena.
Gonzales is being held on $315,000 bail. If convicted, Gonzales faces up 13 years in state prison.
He is scheduled to appear in court again on Sept. 7.

With a name like Gonzales he should be deported!

[Tapeworm]

yes, as long as these Hoes keep thinking if you want the Drawers bad enough, you'll do whatever they ask for

I'm reasonably good looking and dynamite in the sack.  I'm not saying I'm doing a woman a favor fucking her but if I decide to share my dick with her then it's even-steven at the very least.  

I have paid for meals, of course.  The check comes and there wasn't so much as an offer to split it so I simply paid.  Never fucked 'em, no idea what ever happened to 'em.  Thanks for a lovely evening and good night.  It's a great test.

[Board_SHERIF]

As long as women have pussies, men will have to pay.

what if she has a she-shaft ?

[Tapeworm]

Duel it out.

[Griffith]

Jail for this stupid stuff?

At most, he should have just got a warning.

[Ron]

I  think this guy ordered the foods, a lot of expensive items, and bailed out on the restaurant and woman.     It is called stealing from the restaurant, just like stealing something from a store, and he is going to pay for it.

As for being responsible in paying for a date.  If he asked her on a date, you should pay for dinner.   If she asked you, she should pay for dinner.   If they both asked each other, mutually, hey lets go to dinner, it should be equal or whoever feels like paying. 

[FitnessFrenzy]

when I was dating I always went for coffee in the afternoon. Much cheaper.

[FREAKgeek]

what if she has a she-shaft ?

She-shaft lol.

[IroNat]

Don't take women you barely know or want to get to know out for dinner.

This is a big waste of your money.  It's dumb.

Ask them out for a cup of coffee or to lunch or something inexpensive.  Better do some activity with them like go to the beach or a museum. 

If they are into you it doesn't matter what you do really.  If they are not you haven't wasted your money.

[Primemuscle]

If you ask me, he was just spreading around some much-deserved karma for all the dates where men picked up the tab and never heard from their dates again or got accused of this or that false charge, and any variation of the above.

Question arises: If it had been a woman who stiffed a dozen men with a bill, would the public and their friends have started a grassroots campaign on social media to turn the public against those women and convince the "victim" to accuse her of the same charges this guy's facing? No, they would tell him to buck up and get over it, and probably chastise him for even suggesting that a woman should pay the meal.

Double standards do exist, but they're virtually all against men in 2018. Come to think of it, an easy way around that isn't to change the minds of the mindless idiots in society but just state up front that you won't be paying for any purchases on a date. Sure, the women will never agree to that, but you just saved yourself 10 years in a Californian prison and a black bunk mate who stares at you all night and smell like Goodrum's sneakers.

Stiffing is wrong regardless if it is a woman or a man doing it. I suspect that in most cases everyone at the table participates, leaving the restaurant in the lurch. Maybe this fellow was making a statement. He took a risk doing it and he ended up being a loser who's going to prison.

Many men still believe it is their responsibility to take care of women, even today when some women are fighting for equality between the sexes. This is learned behavior based on tradition.

One time when I was a teenager hanging out with friends, the gals decided they wanted to steal some steaks from a store. My buddy and I went in with them. We tried to discourage them, but they were hell-bent on committing the crime. My friend and I bought a few items and went to the car. A few minutes later the gals came running out of the store laughing and excitedly jumped in the car saying "let's go." Turns out they'd chickened out, so all was good.

[FREAKgeek]

They are if you run away like a little cuck.

Really surprised at some of you.