1998 Olympia - Where would Rhoden have placed 20 years ago at the 98 Olympia?

[Bevo]

Chris could never beat Shawn Ray, and people on here say rhoden would place ahead of Ray, no

Chris > rhoden

[illuminati]

I'm pleased Shawn won.

20yrs ago
Kevin / Shawn R / Flex / Nasser / Mike F / Charlie C / Chris C /Andreas M
To name a few would've likely beat him.

Let alone Dorian & Ronnie.

They quality of their condition isn't in the same league nowadays.

[hardgainerj]

flex also used high grade oil

[NarcissisticDeity]

Chris could never beat Shawn Ray, and people on here say rhoden would place ahead of Ray, no

Chris > rhoden

 

Chris beat Shawn 99 Olympia

[wes]

6-7 place...I think Ray was better by far

[old-school-lifter]

RHoden's back is good but not great

he's improved it  but it still lacks thickness and width compared to  the rest of him

its a light heavyweight's back on a heavyweight

[Earl1972]

I'm pleased Shawn won.

20yrs ago
Kevin / Shawn R / Flex / Nasser / Mike F / Charlie C / Chris C /Andreas M
To name a few would've likely beat him.

Let alone Dorian & Ronnie.

They quality of their condition isn't in the same league nowadays.

francois, clairmonte, and munzer?

i have as much 90's bodybuilding nostalgia as anybody, but no way would these guys be anywhere near the best today

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[Bevo]

Chris beat Shawn 99 Olympia

You are correct, that was the only time

Chris should have placed 2nd that year

Rhoden is not as good as that 1999 Chris Cormier or any of the Arnold classic versions when he placed 2nd

[Bevo]

francois, clairmonte, and munzer?

i have as much 90's bodybuilding nostalgia as anybody, but no way would these guys be anywhere near the best today

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You think rhoden is better than those guys mentioned? Cormier, Ray, Levrone, flex, Nasser, etc

[Disco187]

Behind Ronnie and battle with Shawn and flex

[NarcissisticDeity]

francois, clairmonte, and munzer?

i have as much 90's bodybuilding nostalgia as anybody, but no way would these guys be anywhere near the best today

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Francios & Clairmonte beat Flex Wheeler both would trample Rhoden  , Munzer maybe

[Powerlift66]

Guys from the past look much better than all of todays pro's. Bertil would destroy "Rodan".
And if he (Bertil) lost, he would pull out a gun and just shoot him anyways...

[Royalty]

Rhoden was 23 back in 1998. Not too much younger than Lee Priest and Markus Ruhl.

[illuminati]

Francios & Clairmonte beat Flex Wheeler both would trample Rhoden  , Munzer maybe

Yes exactly- Francios & Clairmonte at there best we’re awesome
Munzer his conditioning was excellent especially compared to today’s
Standard - he’d make most of them look fat - Phil would’ve had to bring
A sauna on stage to sweat out the amount he needed to lose.

[AbrahamG]

Flexatron has great lines, flow and aesthetics and possibly the best X-frame of the current pros.  But 20 years ago he would have placed in the middle of the pack.  He wasn't better than Shawn Ray.

I do appreciate, however, this apparent shift in judging criteria to reward flow and aesthetics and penalize out-of-control guts.

I agree with that whole heartedly.  Shawn Rhoden is very good.  But even his abs have a funky look at times.  I think people today don't realize how fucking good Nasser was.  In his prime years, nobody was better than him from the front.  Plus, with those glasses on he was one hell of a handsome gentlemen.  RIP.

[The Scott]

I agree with that whole heartedly.  Shawn Rhoden is very good.  But even his abs have a funky look at times.  I think people today don't realize how fucking good Nasser was.  In his prime years, nobody was better than him from the front.  Plus, with those glasses on he was one hell of a handsome gentlemen.  RIP.

Nasser was indeed a good looking man with a great physique that fell victim to the stupid notion that the reigning Mr. O needs to be destroyed to be dethroned. 

[Royalty]

This is an excellent Nasser motivation video

[Dan-O]

I was never a fan of Nasser's physique back in the day.  I preferred Shawn Ray's shape, proportion and detail over Nasser's overwhelming size.  Also, Shawn never had oil leaking out of his rear delts.

I guess that's why I'm a fan of Bonac today, because to me he's the closest thing to a Shawn Ray currently.  Although even Bonac needs to tighten up his midsection and rein in the size just a bit and go for more quality over quantity.

OH and speaking of quality...Sami Al Haddad in the 212 class has that same crazy Colemanesque level of detail, but needs a bit more size in the legs to place higher.

[Earl1972]

You think rhoden is better than those guys mentioned? Cormier, Ray, Levrone, flex, Nasser, etc

he's better than munzer, francois, and clairmonte

absolutely not better than the top 6 in 98, he doesn't have the awe factor those guys had i still look at them and say "HOLY SHIT"

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[Earl1972]

Francios & Clairmonte beat Flex Wheeler both would trample Rhoden  , Munzer maybe

when after his car accident?  jaroslav horvath beat Mr. Levrone a few months before he got 2nd at the olympia in 2002 and horvath got like 18th place, beating him once when he was way off means shit

you guys are really blinded by nostalgia if you think those 3 would be an olympia champ today, the only reason anybody remembers munzer is because he died

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[Earl1972]

I agree with that whole heartedly.  Shawn Rhoden is very good.  But even his abs have a funky look at times.  I think people today don't realize how fucking good Nasser was.  In his prime years, nobody was better than him from the front.  Plus, with those glasses on he was one hell of a handsome gentlemen.  RIP.

nasser is underrated for sure

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[Kwon3]

nasser is underrated for sure

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I dunno. He lacked arm separation, despite top notch midsection detail. His forearms were average at best and he boasted no lower lats, classic T shape like Dennis James and Vic Martinez. His top draws were his calves, abs, and legs. But the moment he resorted to synthol to up his lagging body parts, he was done. Then he had that surgery to remove those weird lumps of fat under his armpits where his lats used to be. People talk about his oily shoulders but his biceps were the worst I've ever seen for site enhancement oil.

[Moontrane]

Where would today's Rhoden place in the 2038 Olympia?  Where is BB heading?

[Kwon3]

Where would today's Rhoden place in the 2038 Olympia?  Where is BB heading?

[Ron]

Rhoden would of placed 3rd, perhaps.

Ronnie was incredible, and Flex was the king of symmetry back then.