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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #250 on: September 23, 2018, 08:54:55 PM »
According to me you're liar and fucking moron (two things you have in common with Trump)

Don't attribute things to me that I haven't said
Can you prove you didn't say those things?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #251 on: September 23, 2018, 09:02:03 PM »
Can you prove you didn't say those things?
Haha. Owned by his own insane liberal legal acrobatics.

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« Reply #252 on: September 23, 2018, 11:14:17 PM »
How to poison public opinion against someone in under 2 weeks, with no proven claims and massive support from the press:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/23/fox-news-poll-record-number-voters-oppose-kavanaugh-nomination.html

Feinstein, Gillibrand, Hirono, other Dem heavyweights quiet on Ellison claims:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/23/feinstein-other-dems-largely-silent-on-abuse-claims-against-keith-ellison.html

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #253 on: September 24, 2018, 12:53:07 AM »
How to poison public opinion against someone in under 2 weeks, with no proven claims and massive support from the press:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/23/fox-news-poll-record-number-voters-oppose-kavanaugh-nomination.html

Feinstein, Gillibrand, Hirono, other Dem heavyweights quiet on Ellison claims:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/23/feinstein-other-dems-largely-silent-on-abuse-claims-against-keith-ellison.html

Thought I read today Hirono was calling for Ellison to be investigated


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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #255 on: September 24, 2018, 12:59:36 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/23/politics/mazie-hirono-keith-ellison-cnntv/index.html

Recent victim and ex-girlfriend of elected official accuses him of violence and posts a medical report to that effect publicly:

*Mazie Hirono does interview on CNN and mentions quickly at the end that the congressman should be investigated*

Anonymous liberal arts college professor makes unsubstantiated, virtually unprovable 36-year-old claim against a SCOTUS nominee at the end of his nomination without remembering the address or the year:

*Mazie Hirono and Kirsten Gillibrand hold a full court press conference for 20 minutes condemning all men in the United States, including the nominee*



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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #256 on: September 24, 2018, 10:56:44 AM »
The Left and their middle/upper-class white soldiers not waiting for Ford's testimony. Apparently she's too credible to need to talk about what she claimed against the judge, so they're asking for his ouster immediately ahead of time.

As usual, lots of 'diversity' in the protestors. A sea of white. Not a black or brown face to be found.  ::)

The Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China look at us and laugh. We can't even get a judge elected because a bunch of triggered left-wing pothead college students with backpacks and mocca lattes just found a new trendy idea, smearing and disqualifying respected judges with distinguished records because two drunken white women hazily claim to remember seeing his dick 35 years ago, without any proof or even a memory of where it happened or when. LOL.

Fuck it, only a war can rinse out the rot in our house.

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protesters are looking for "hero" GOP lawmakers.

Some of the demonstrators came from Yale Law School, Kavanaugh's alma mater. Members of a group called Yale Law Students Demanding Better included Veronica Guerrero, who told law.com that more than 100 traveled from the Connecticut school to join the protest.

"We’re here to demand that the law does not marginalize groups that are already marginalized in broader society," she said as she and other students waited for a chance to speak with Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb. Sasse has been a frequent critic of President Donald Trump.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-arrests-made-capitol-during-kavanaugh-protests/1409906002/

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #257 on: September 24, 2018, 11:39:33 AM »
And the attempted high tech lynching continues.

10 Serious Problems With New Accusations Against Kavanaugh
ByRYAN SAAVEDRA
@REALSAAVEDRA
September 24, 2018

The New Yorker published new accusations on Sunday from a second woman who alleges that Judge Brett Kavanaugh acted sexually inappropriate towards her at a party during their college years.

Deborah Ramirez, 53, alleges that while she was at a Yale party, intoxicated to the point that she was on the ground in a "foggy" state "slurring" her words, Kavanaugh pulled his pants down and exposed himself to her.

The New Yorker report and a subsequent report from The New York Times both raise multiple red flags about the credibility of the allegations. Here are 10 key points compiled from both reports that raise serious questions about the claims:

1. The New Yorker could not find a single witness who could put Kavanaugh at the alleged party.

Buried more than 1,000 words into the report, Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer wrote:

The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party.

2. The New York Times could not find a single person who could corroborate Ramirez's claims.

The New York Times likewise could not find a single witness to backup her allegations:

The Times had interviewed several dozen people over the past week in an attempt to corroborate her story, and could find no one with firsthand knowledge.

3. The man accused of egging on Kavanaugh denied Ramirez's allegations and vouched for Kavanaugh's character.

Buried more than 1,400 words into The New Yorker story, Farrow and Mayer provide a quote from one of the men named by Ramirez:

One of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh denied any memory of the party. "I don’t think Brett would flash himself to Debbie, or anyone, for that matter," he said. Asked why he thought Ramirez was making the allegation, he responded, "I have no idea." The other male classmate who Ramirez said was involved in the incident commented, "I have zero recollection."

4. A third person that Ramirez claimed was at the party says she was not there for the alleged incident.

The classmate, who was not named, said that "she was not present at the incident."

5. Ramirez contacted her former classmates, asking about the incident, and admitted she was not sure that Kavanaugh was the male who exposed himself.

The Times' report states:

Ms. Ramirez herself contacted former Yale classmates asking if they recalled the incident and told some of them that she could not be certain Mr. Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself.

6. A woman who claims she was "best friends" with Ramirez says Ramirez never mentioned the story and initially said her friend's accusations against Kavanaugh might be "politically motivated."

Buried nearly 1,700 words into the New Yorker piece, the report states:

The former friend who was married to the male classmate alleged to be involved, and who signed the statement, said of Ramirez, “This is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives. And I was never told this story by her, or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn’t see it; I never heard of it happening.” She said she hadn’t spoken with Ramirez for about ten years, but that the two women had been close all through college, and Kavanaugh had remained part of what she called their “larger social circle.” In an initial conversation with The New Yorker, she suggested that Ramirez may have been politically motivated. Later, she said that she did not know if this was the case.

7. Ramirez, just like Christine Blasey Ford, is a registered Democrat and is dedicated to leftist causes.

Farrow and Mayer note more than 1,800 words into their report that "Ramirez is a registered Democrat," noting that she "works toward human rights, social justice, and social change."

8. Ramirez wasn't even sure her memory was correct — until she spent six days going over it with her Democrat lawyer.

"In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty," the outlet reports. "After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh..."

The New Yorker waits for more than 2,100 words to inform readers that Ramirez's lawyer is "Stanley Garnett, a former Democratic district attorney in Boulder..."

9. Ramirez admits there are holes in her memory due to how much she drank at the party.

"She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident," The New Yorker report states in the second paragraph.

Ramirez said that at the party, where students were playing a drinking game, she "quickly became inebriated" because of the large amounts of alcohol she was consuming, adding that she became so intoxicated that she "was on the floor, foggy and slurring her words."

10. People who knew Ramirez after her time at Yale say that she never once mentioned the incident — until Kavanaugh's nomination was pending.

More than 1,500 words into the article, The New Yorker report states:

In a statement, two of those male classmates who Ramirez alleged were involved in the incident, the wife of a third male student she said was involved, and three other classmates, Dino Ewing, Louisa Garry, and Dan Murphy, disputed Ramirez’s account of events: “We were the people closest to Brett Kavanaugh during his first year at Yale. He was a roommate to some of us, and we spent a great deal of time with him, including in the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during and after her time at Yale. We can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it—and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett. In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale, and she never described this incident until Brett’s Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from the New Yorker contacted some of us because we are the people who would know the truth, and we told them that we never saw or heard about this.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36229/10-serious-problems-new-accusations-against-ryan-saavedra

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #258 on: September 24, 2018, 12:00:36 PM »
Nolte: Every Witness Named by Kavanaugh’s Accusers Sides with Kavanaugh
24 Sep 2018
The two women making sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh claim to have witnesses, but so far, all of their witnesses back Kavanaugh’s claim that nothing happened.

. . . .

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/24/every-witness-named-kavanaughs-accusers-sides-kavanaugh/

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #259 on: September 24, 2018, 01:00:46 PM »
Nolte: Every Witness Named by Kavanaugh’s Accusers Sides with Kavanaugh
24 Sep 2018
The two women making sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh claim to have witnesses, but so far, all of their witnesses back Kavanaugh’s claim that nothing happened.

. . . .

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/24/every-witness-named-kavanaughs-accusers-sides-kavanaugh/

Liberals are the worst pos ever,.  EVERY single case of their supposed evidence of abuse alswys turned out to crap. 

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #260 on: September 24, 2018, 01:37:48 PM »
The accusations made by Christine Ford and this female alumnus from Yale would not meet the minimum requirements for a district attorney to file charges, even in our triggered post-#MeToo environment. Vague memories and unsubstantiated allegations can be made against literally anyone: Your boss, your co-workers, your spouse, your roommates, anyone. The best the Left and its sponsors in the media and the Democrat party can do to buttress such claims is to disingenuously and preposterously insist that the people making such accusations should be believed because they were born female. They've said this with a straight face at press conferences and in interviews with the liberal press and TV networks in the past 2 weeks.

That is the definition of a police state. It's how things work in China to this very day, and how it worked in Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge terror state in Cambodia, Stalin's Russia, and Hitler's Germany, as well as any number of third world religious dictatorships in the Middle East and military juntas in Africa. An accusation is enough for anyone to be arrested and often convicted in those places.

That is what the Left wants and is aggressively pushing for in the United States, and they're succeeding because good White people aren't standing up to it with counterprotests and demonstrations in favor of this good man. Letters from women who knew him don't mean shit. Where are they when it comes to doing interviews on TV or holding press conferences to condemn the people besmirching his reputation? At home, scared. Asians, Natives, Blacks, Jews, Pacific Islanders all don't care about this type of thing and are quiet on the matter. They can't be relied on.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #261 on: September 24, 2018, 02:26:56 PM »
There can be no accord with the Left. They are the enemy. They want to turn us into a 3rd world shithole where they can continue to rule from well guarded enclaves while the rest of us fend for ourselves against the screaming hordes. Trump called them out and unmasked them for who they are. They aren't Americans as we understood it. They all need to go.....

From the twitterverse.....
Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans are considering using female staffers to question Dr. Christine Blasey Ford at the hearing set for Thursday, but her attorneys pushed back.

Might she now cancel completely now that she's successfully stalled long enough to let the Democrat/Socialist Social Justice Warrior find new accusers?

Committee Republicans "reserve the option to have female staff attorneys, who are sensitive to the particulars of Dr. Ford’s allegations and are experienced investigators, question both witnesses," committee chair Republican Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said in a letter to Ford’s lawyers Friday, according to The New York Times.

Ford's lawyers only want her to be questioned by senators, reported CNN. All 11 of the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Republican members are male.
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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #262 on: September 24, 2018, 02:36:19 PM »
There can be no accord with the Left. They are the enemy. They want to turn us into a 3rd world shithole where they can continue to rule from well guarded enclaves while the rest of us fend for ourselves against the screaming hordes. Trump called them out and unmasked them for who they are. They aren't Americans as we understood it. They all need to go.....

From the twitterverse.....
Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans are considering using female staffers to question Dr. Christine Blasey Ford at the hearing set for Thursday, but her attorneys pushed back.

Might she now cancel completely now that she's successfully stalled long enough to let the Democrat/Socialist Social Justice Warrior find new accusers?

Committee Republicans "reserve the option to have female staff attorneys, who are sensitive to the particulars of Dr. Ford’s allegations and are experienced investigators, question both witnesses," committee chair Republican Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said in a letter to Ford’s lawyers Friday, according to The New York Times.

Ford's lawyers only want her to be questioned by senators, reported CNN. All 11 of the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Republican members are male.

Smart guy.

Also, she dropped her condition that the FBI conduct an investigation. Why? I thought that was the entire pivot of her case. How convenient.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #263 on: September 24, 2018, 02:42:58 PM »
I think after hearing that "THE FUCKING FBI DOES'NT INVESTIGATE SHIT LIKE THIS YOU CRAZY BITCH" 9 billion times, she dropped it. Now its trying to make the Repubs look like their badgering her. Nothing  Trump has done thus far has been earth shaking as far as President...but sealing the Supreme Court up for a generation so we can keep the batshit leftists from legislating from the bench because they can't pass enough laws or control enough legislatures......is the greatest thing ever.
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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #264 on: September 24, 2018, 03:41:55 PM »
I think after hearing that "THE FUCKING FBI DOES'NT INVESTIGATE SHIT LIKE THIS YOU CRAZY BITCH" 9 billion times, she dropped it. Now its trying to make the Repubs look like their badgering her. Nothing  Trump has done thus far has been earth shaking as far as President...but sealing the Supreme Court up for a generation so we can keep the batshit leftists from legislating from the bench because they can't pass enough laws or control enough legislatures......is the greatest thing ever.

she dropped it "for now" because she knew has no power and the Senate would just plow forward with the vote


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« Reply #265 on: September 24, 2018, 03:46:09 PM »
she dropped it "for now" because she knew has no power and the Senate would just plow forward with the vote



Yeah, everyone in the country can get U.S. senators to offer to fly across the country to conduct a private interview with them because flying out to Washington all expenses paid and with heavy security to support your unprovable and proven libels against a federal judge might inconvenience their dayjob, get them to do a closed-door Q & A session with only 1 camera, handpick who does your questions, and demand that the person you're accusing not even be in the room. On top of $500,000 gifted through gofundme directly into their checking account. That's the textbook definition of powerlessness alright.

Remember when you and me did that shit? That was awesome. I love my new boat and newfound fame. How's your beach house in CA doing?

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #266 on: September 24, 2018, 03:52:36 PM »
Yeah, everyone in the country can get U.S. senators to offer to fly across the country to conduct a private interview with them because flying out to Washington all expenses paid and with heavy security to support your unprovable and proven libels against a federal judge might inconvenience their dayjob, get them to do a closed-door Q & A session with only 1 camera, handpick who does your questions, and demand that the person you're accusing not even be in the room. On top of $500,000 gifted through gofundme directly into their checking account. That's the textbook definition of powerlessness alright.

Remember when you and me did that shit? That was awesome. I love my new boat and newfound fame. How's your beach house in CA doing?

You forgot one thing in your narrative. 

the Senate is not even going to ask the only eye witness to testify

not sure what the other nonsense is that you posted.


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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #267 on: September 24, 2018, 03:59:30 PM »
You forgot one thing in your narrative. 

the Senate is not even going to ask the only eye witness to testify

not sure what the other nonsense is that you posted.



There is no eye-witness. There's a mentally-deranged and deeply confused 53 year old white college professor with wants fame and money off the back of an innocent man while making a mockery of the country's SCOTUS nomination committee and the media in general. And her dung beetle followers on getbig and Twitter.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #268 on: September 24, 2018, 04:18:38 PM »
There is no eye-witness. There's a mentally-deranged and deeply confused 53 year old white college professor with wants fame and money off the back of an innocent man while making a mockery of the country's SCOTUS nomination committee and the media in general. And her dung beetle followers on getbig and Twitter.

she said someone was there

all that person has to do is go under oath and say he wasn't there

that would actually help Kavanaugh so I'm sure you'd have no problem with that


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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #269 on: September 24, 2018, 04:19:27 PM »
she said someone was there

all that person has to do is go under oath and say he wasn't there

that would actually help Kavanaugh so I'm sure you'd have no problem with that



But that person has no proof, either, if they even exist. I can get five people to say you molested me when I was 14. That mean it's true?

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #270 on: September 24, 2018, 04:21:03 PM »
There can be no accord with the Left. They are the enemy. They want to turn us into a 3rd world shithole where they can continue to rule from well guarded enclaves while the rest of us fend for ourselves against the screaming hordes. Trump called them out and unmasked them for who they are. They aren't Americans as we understood it. They all need to go.....

From the twitterverse.....
Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans are considering using female staffers to question Dr. Christine Blasey Ford at the hearing set for Thursday, but her attorneys pushed back.

Might she now cancel completely now that she's successfully stalled long enough to let the Democrat/Socialist Social Justice Warrior find new accusers?

Committee Republicans "reserve the option to have female staff attorneys, who are sensitive to the particulars of Dr. Ford’s allegations and are experienced investigators, question both witnesses," committee chair Republican Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said in a letter to Ford’s lawyers Friday, according to The New York Times.

Ford's lawyers only want her to be questioned by senators, reported CNN. All 11 of the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Republican members are male.

Welcome back.   :)

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #271 on: September 24, 2018, 04:21:58 PM »
Welcome back.   :)

This disgusting story has brought the great ones out from retirement just to contribute some common sense and sanity to the equation.  8)

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #272 on: September 24, 2018, 04:27:01 PM »
I did however just watch his interview with Martha MacCallum and I don't think it went very well for him. He refused to answer her a few times when she kept coming back to where these accusations are coming from, in terms of the motivation of his accusers. And there were a lot of other canned answers that referred to getting a fair hearing even if it wasn't strictly correlated to the question asked.

Hopefully his name will be cleared by the system, but I have doubts. The damage is done. The liberal media and the feminist groups won. Trump may have to drop him and find a woman instead.

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« Reply #273 on: September 24, 2018, 05:13:13 PM »
This disgusting story has brought the great ones out from retirement just to contribute some common sense and sanity to the equation.  8)

Yep.   :)

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #274 on: September 24, 2018, 05:20:56 PM »
I did however just watch his interview with Martha MacCallum and I don't think it went very well for him. He refused to answer her a few times when she kept coming back to where these accusations are coming from, in terms of the motivation of his accusers. And there were a lot of other canned answers that referred to getting a fair hearing even if it wasn't strictly correlated to the question asked.

Hopefully his name will be cleared by the system, but I have doubts. The damage is done. The liberal media and the feminist groups won. Trump may have to drop him and find a woman instead.

I haven't watched it yet, but how is he supposed to know what is motivating someone to lie about him?