Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public

[Dos Equis]

So at THIS point and time,  IF the Dems were given 3 more days (some asking for 1 week)  for the FBI investigation to be reopened, they would FINALLY STFU?  Is that what the majority of them are saying?

Of course not. 

[Dos Equis]

Out of committee with Flake being flaky.  I hope McConnell goes forward with the floor vote on Monday. 

[Princess L]

So at THIS point and time,  IF the Dems were given 3 more days (some asking for 1 week)  for the FBI investigation to be reopened, they would FINALLY STFU?  Is that what the majority of them are saying?

Of course not. 

That was not intended to be a rhetorical question. 

[polychronopolous]

The Democrat senators from Indiana and Montana are in opposition. Very interesting to see how this will play out in November.

Two red state Democrats announce opposition to Kavanaugh





Washington (CNN) Two red state Democrats facing re-election in 2018 announced on Friday that they oppose Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court.

Sens. Joe Donnelly of Indiana and Jon Tester of Montana both came out against President Donald Trump's nominee the day after Christine Blasey Ford testified that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in the early 1980s -- allegations that Kavanaugh vehemently denied.

"I have deep reservations about Judge Kavanaugh's nomination to this lifetime position and ... we have been unable to get all the information necessary regarding this nomination, despite my best efforts," Donnelly said in a statement on Friday.


"While I would gladly welcome the opportunity to work with President Trump on a new nominee for this critically important position, if Judge Kavanaugh's nomination comes before the full Senate for a vote under these circumstances, I will oppose it," he said.

Tester put out a statement later in the day on Friday, citing a number of concerns with Kavanaugh's record as well as concerns over the allegations of sexual assault.

"I have concerns that Judge Kavanaugh defended the PATRIOT Act instead of Montanans' privacy," the senator said. "I have concerns about his support for more dark money in politics. I have concerns about who he believes is in charge of making personal health decisions. And I have deep concerns about the allegations of sexual assault against Judge Kavanaugh. Unfortunately, Judge Kavanaugh couldn't find time to discuss these concerns with me in person, so the only information I have is from what he said in his hearings. I'll be voting against him."

Donnelly was one of three Democrats in the chamber to back President Donald Trump's first Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, and he had been an a handful of undecided senators from red or purple states that Kavanaugh's supporters had targeted for support.

The news makes the battle for Senate Republicans to confirm Trump's nominee harder given the GOP's razor-thin majority in the upper chamber. Republicans can only afford to lose one GOP vote if all Senate Democrats opt to vote against the nomination, and many congressional observers are closely watching a pair of undecided moderate Republicans, Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, to determine the future of Kavanaugh's nomination.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/28/politics/joe-donnelly-kavanaugh-nomination/index.html

[Princess L]

Of course they'd find something else to bitch about to try and further DELAY.  Everyone of them said they want the FBI to reopen the investigation, most saying 3 days like the Hill case.  So IF they were given their 3 days, they could theoretically vote by next Friday right?  It would still be done before the election and they'd have nothing more to bitch about, right?  That's what they're SAYING. 

2nd question:  They constantly pummeled Kavanaugh with the implied authority to reopen the FBI investigation.  If HE had come right out and said yes, reopen the investigation, rather than saying "I will do whatever the committee wants", would that have held more weight (Dems infer that it would)?  Does he even have the power to make them do it?

[Dos Equis]

That was not intended to be a rhetorical question. 

Only Republican I've heard say it was Flake, although he seemed to say (without naming them) that Collins and Murkowski agree with him. 

[Primemuscle]

From what I've heard, congress cannot authorize an FBI investigation. Only the President can do that.

[Dos Equis]

From what I've heard, congress cannot authorize an FBI investigation. Only the President can do that.

I heard that too, although I think McConnell could delay or kill a floor vote if he wants and FBI investigation. 

[Primemuscle]

I heard that too, although I think McConnell could delay or kill a floor vote if he wants and FBI investigation. 

This whole circus keeps getting crazier and crazier. Both republicans and democrats are in a pickle right now. There are no easy answers.

[Princess L]

Fine.  Give them their f'g investigation.  Naturally they're gonna want a week or more and continue to lay on the demands even though they've already stated 3 days would suffice siting the Hill case.  Again, another cave in by (R) making them appear spineless.  Careful what you wish for folks.   kavanaugh has nothing to worry about.  Ford's entire past sexual history will be out on display for public consumption.

[Dos Equis]

Fine.  Give them their f'g investigation.  Naturally they're gonna want a week or more and continue to lay on the demands even though they've already stated 3 days would suffice siting the Hill case.  Again, another cave in by (R) making them appear spineless.  Careful what you wish for folks.   kavanaugh has nothing to worry about.  Ford's entire past sexual history will be out on display for public consumption.

So now they are delaying the vote for one week for an FBI investigation. 

My prediction:  the FBI will get statements that repeat what the witnesses have already said.  Not a single Democrat will change his or her vote.  Ford will file a criminal complaint with the state of Maryland.  Democrats will demand a delay until after the state completes its investigation. 

And Kavanaugh will be confirmed week after next. 

[Skeletor]

So what is the reason the Democrats are asking for the FBI to investigate if its reports are inconclusive, not worth anything and we cannot rely on them?

“The next person who refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn’t understand anything. FBI explicitly does not, in this case or any other case, reach a conclusion, period. Period.
The reason why we cannot rely on the FBI report, you would not like it if we did, because it’s inconclusive. They say, he said, she said and they said, period.
So when people wave an FBI report before you, understand they do not — they do not, they do not — reach conclusions. They do not make, as my friend points out more accurately, they do not make recommendations.”

[Coach is Back!]

Fine.  Give them their f'g investigation.  Naturally they're gonna want a week or more and continue to lay on the demands even though they've already stated 3 days would suffice siting the Hill case.  Again, another cave in by (R) making them appear spineless.  Careful what you wish for folks.   kavanaugh has nothing to worry about.  Ford's entire past sexual history will be out on display for public consumption.

Don't kid yourself. This isn't just about Ford and no way in hell this lasts just a week. The dems will delay even further by looking into the other fake allegations and during that time you can bet other fake allegations will surface. All this is, is just hold off until after the Nov elections. Flake has always been a hero of the left.

[mazrim]

Republicans may have shot themselves in the foot and destroyed chances at midterms. Hope it is the opposite and people will be motivated to get those like Flake out. Good thing he has already bowed out.

[SOMEPARTS]

Not surprising that Flake is from Arizona...WWMD? What Would McCain DO? This very thing...

All of these politicians are either owned or subject to control files that get dangled in front of them when they get out of line.

[chaos]

Once confirmed I hope Kavanaugh remembers the assault on his character and his family during these times.

[Kwon3]

Cory Booker physically assaulted a woman in high school and wrote an article about it in 1992. There's a number of wife-beaters on the Democrat side, including Keith Ellison. Not a word said about them at the hearings today.

Dems = can never be taken seriously except by radical left anarchists, 'minorities', and misandrist psychopaths (like Ford).

[chaos]

Cory Booker physically assaulted a woman in high school and wrote an article about it in 1992. There's a number of wife-beaters on the Democrat side, including Keith Ellison. Not a word said about them at the hearings today.

Dems = can never be taken seriously except by radical left anarchists, 'minorities', and misandrist psychopaths (like Ford).

[polychronopolous]

They've already went over Kavanaugh with a fine toothed comb and 4 of the supposed top witnesses say they were not even there.

Plus the man is a federal judge who teaches law. Who knows how to handle this situation better than him?

It seems to me that more will be brought to light about Ford and who knows what will come out of that?

More allegations against other men or co workers(sexual or nonsexual)? It's possible.

[Kwon3]

They've already went over Kavanaugh with a fine toothed comb and 4 of the supposed top witnesses say they were not even there.

Plus the man is a federal judge who teaches law. Who knows how to handle this situation better than him?

It seems to me that more will be brought to light about Ford and who knows what will come out of that?

More allegations against other men or co workers(sexual or nonsexual)? It's possible.

What it does is open the door to every scumbag, liar, and opportunist the Democrats can pressure into joining this theater of madness, without necessarily having to put then before a committee. FBI sources can be anonymous and that's exactly what you'll get - faceless, nameless cowards (as Ford herself was at the beginning until Feinstein leaked her name to the press) trashing a nominee they don't want appointed.

Today, any dignity or respect associated with the Senate just went out the door (literally, in the case of Harris, Blumenthal, Hirono et al.).

[Moontrane]

[Moontrane]

That article is Sen. Cory "Spartacus" Booker's shot record - he self-inoculated against charges of misogyny.

[Kwon3]

The hysterical maniac who scared dickless Jeff Flake into reversing his own vote. This is how the Left does things - not through process or discussion, but blunt force trauma, embarrassing emotional explosions in public, shutting down committee hearings with violent heckling and being dragged out, accosting and savaging public officials at restaurants with their families, and mindless paroxysms of rage on camera (bought and paid for by CNN).

[polychronopolous]

What it does is open the door to every scumbag, liar, and opportunist the Democrats can pressure into joining this theater of madness, without necessarily having to put then before a committee. FBI sources can be anonymous and that's exactly what you'll get - faceless, nameless cowards (as Ford herself was at the beginning until Feinstein leaked her name to the press) trashing a nominee they don't want appointed.

Today, any dignity or respect associated with the Senate just went out the door (literally, in the case of Harris, Blumenthal, Hirono et al.).

It just strikes me as such a losing position for the Democrats.

This is the kind of guy any of us would love to have as a father, older brother, uncle.

And yet he continues to be driven through the mud like an asshole.

Are we that far gone as a country? I hear these statements "oh this just like pre civil war rhetoric among the senate"

Seems too hyperbolic to me but if Kavanaugh is denied his seat off of some bullshit?? You are going to have some very hot citizens out there.

[Kwon3]

Seems too hyperbolic to me but if Kavanaugh is denied his seat off of some bullshit?? You are going to have some very hot citizens out there.

Fine with me.

And by the way, the people willing to go to war for our rights and freedoms are like 85% conservative, mostly white men without college degrees who live outside big cities (aka most of the population). The moment it looks like we might have a drop of unity in our system in the same style as BLM or MeToo - oh, and we're armed - the Left will back down. Who are they? "Antifa" (suburban white kids in skater shoes with skinnyjeans and masks), women (lol), and a few ballsy blacks and hispanics (most don't care enough about America to fight for it or against it). The moment we put our foot down, the war is over. It won't even be a war. One day later they'd all come to the table and start making concessions and begging us to hold our fire and let's talk about this and please guys don't turn the streets into a bloodbath etc. They're all talk. Those arrogant female senators like Harris and Hirono would sing a different tune, hell they'd shit a 7lb brick, if they were suddenly confronted by 30 rednecks and patriots in a hallway and shoved into a corner.