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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #525 on: October 02, 2018, 09:56:00 PM »
Ron forced me to touch Valentino's arm during an Arnold Classic.  I remember it  was at a party sometime in the 2000s.  It was dark, there was loud music, it was cold outside, there were a lot of big men there and a lot of fake boobs.  I felt violated.  Getbig should  be shut down  ::)



I bet Gregg loved it. I mean, what man wouldn't want their guns appraised by the Princess L, right?

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« Reply #526 on: October 02, 2018, 11:29:30 PM »
Accuser Julie Swetnick may face perjury charges says Harvard Law professors Alan Dershowitz:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/alan-dershowitz-if-julie-swetnick-lied-she-should-be-tried-for-perjury-and-sent-to-prison

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« Reply #527 on: October 02, 2018, 11:31:54 PM »
The Left's entire smear campaign is crumbling daily:

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In a written declaration released Tuesday and obtained by Fox News, an ex-boyfriend of Christine Blasey Ford, the California professor accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, directly contradicts her testimony under oath last week that she had never helped anyone prepare for a polygraph examination.

The former boyfriend, whose name was redacted in the declaration, also said Ford neither mentioned Kavanaugh nor said she was a victim of sexual misconduct during the time they were dating from about 1992 to 1998. He said he saw Ford helping a woman he believed was her "life-long best friend" prepare for a potential polygraph test. He added that the woman had been interviewing for jobs with the FBI and U.S. Attorney's office.

He also claimed Ford never voiced any fear of flying (even while aboard a propeller plane) and seemingly had no problem living in a small, 500 sq. ft. apartment with one door -- apparently contradicting her claims that she could not testify promptly in D.C. because she felt uncomfortable traveling on planes, as well as her suggestion that her memories of Kavanuagh's alleged assault prompted her to feel unsafe living in a closed space or one without a second front door.

Ford "never expressed a fear of closed quarters, tight spaces, or places with only one exit," the former boyfriend wrote. On Thursday, Ford testified, "I was hoping to avoid getting on an airplane. But I eventually was able to get up the gumption with the help of some friends and get on the plane." She also acknowledged regularly -- and, in her words, "unfortunately" -- traveling on planes for work and hobbies.

Ford also told Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that she had a second front door installed in her home because of "anxiety, phobia and PTSD-like symptoms" that she purportedly suffered in the wake of Kavanaugh's alleged attack at a house party in the 1980s -- "more especially, claustrophobia, panic and that type of thing."

In a pointed, no-holds-barred letter Tuesday evening that referenced the ex-boyfriend's declaration, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley demanded that attorneys for Ford turn over her therapist notes and other key materials, and suggested she was intentionally less than truthful about her experience with polygraph examinations during Thursday's dramatic Senate hearing.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/christine-blasey-ford-ex-boyfriend-says-she-helped-friend-prep-for-potential-polygraph-grassley-sounds-alarm

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #528 on: October 03, 2018, 01:37:05 AM »
The Left's entire smear campaign is crumbling daily:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/christine-blasey-ford-ex-boyfriend-says-she-helped-friend-prep-for-potential-polygraph-grassley-sounds-alarm
Complete lunacy that many conservative commentators, etc. we're calling this woman credible (only that she had no evidence to back it up but still credible). Obvius lie from the beginning. They are/were just afraid to come out and say the truth due to fear of backlash or to be "civil" possibly and not upset "survivors". Lady is trash.

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« Reply #529 on: October 03, 2018, 05:20:36 AM »
Complete lunacy that many conservative commentators, etc. we're calling this woman credible (only that she had no evidence to back it up but still credible). Obvius lie from the beginning. They are/were just afraid to come out and say the truth due to fear of backlash or to be "civil" possibly and not upset "survivors". Lady is trash.

"Credibility" is in the eye of the beholder, and mostly partisan.

But it's not about credibility - it's about evidence and corroboration, and there's nothing.
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« Reply #530 on: October 03, 2018, 06:32:35 AM »
I guess they are anticipating the FBI will find nothing to help their case.

Lawyers for Kavanaugh accusers raise doubts over FBI probe

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawyers-kavanaugh-accusers-worried-fbi-probe-not-serious-222447841.html

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« Reply #531 on: October 03, 2018, 10:07:21 AM »
Accuser Julie Swetnick may face perjury charges says Harvard Law professors Alan Dershowitz:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/alan-dershowitz-if-julie-swetnick-lied-she-should-be-tried-for-perjury-and-sent-to-prison
What a vile human being. Note the date of the postings if she tries denying.


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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #532 on: October 03, 2018, 10:44:27 AM »
Candace Owens Calls for Jailing of Christine Blasey Ford: ‘Lock Her Up’



Candace Owens attacked Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser Dr. Christine Blasey Ford on Wednesday, saying that she should be jailed.

Owens shared an article on Twitter from Fox News that reported that a former boyfriend of Dr. Ford said she helped prepare a friend for a polygraph test.

“WOW. LIAR Christine Ford’s entire testimony just got blown up by an ex-boyfriend of 6 years,” said Owens “She has HELPED people prep to take polygraph tests, never had a fear of flying–oh, and of course, never once mentioned her sexual assault.”

“#LockHerUp,” she added, throwing in the 2016 presidential campaign hashtag previously used almost exclusively by Trump supporters for Hillary Clinton.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/candace-owens-calls-jailing-christine-154728160.html

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« Reply #533 on: October 03, 2018, 01:20:43 PM »
Meanwhile that creepy Down Syndrome-ridden, stammering piece of shit Susan Collins slammed the President again earlier today in front of the liberal press and implied she won't vote for his nominee. Typical two-faced white cum-guzzling nutjob.


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« Reply #534 on: October 03, 2018, 01:23:06 PM »
Meanwhile that creepy Down Syndrome-ridden, stammering piece of shit Susan Collins slammed the President again earlier today in front of the liberal press and implied she won't vote for his nominee. Typical two-faced white cum-guzzling nutjob.



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« Reply #535 on: October 03, 2018, 01:28:46 PM »
That’s got to be one ugly man in Drag Surely.
She's the American Theresa May.

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« Reply #536 on: October 03, 2018, 01:45:33 PM »
She's the American Theresa May.

Ha ha She def is that.
In fact I think it’s got Theresa beat only Just though.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #537 on: October 03, 2018, 02:26:43 PM »

CBS Spends 3+ Minutes Asking Chelsea Clinton About Kavanaugh Allegations, Never Mentions Bill



CBS “This Morning” interviewed Chelsea Clinton about the allegations of sexual misconduct against Supreme Court nominee, Judge Brett Kavanaugh, but failed to ask her about the multiple allegations against her father, former President Bill Clinton, on Wednesday.


Norah O’Donnell asked Chelsea Clinton what she thought about President Trump mocking Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee at a campaign event on Tuesday.

“I don’t think the president should be mocking anyone. I don’t think he should be mocking Dr. Ford. I don’t think he should be mocking a gold star family. I don’t think he should be mocking a disabled reporter,” Clinton said.


Gayle King followed up by asking Clinton what she thought about Kavanaugh’s testimony and his mention of the Clintons.

“Oh, my gosh, we loom so much larger in your mind than you loom, at least in mine,” Clinton said. “But to me what was so troubling was how nakedly partisan he was, and I think the principle of a judicial review being absent of partisanship is still really important.”


“I just don’t think that that is healthy as a dynamic on the Supreme Court or, really candidly, any court,” she added.

Clinton then said she doesn’t think that Kavanaugh, whose nomination she opposed from the beginning, should be confirmed to the Supreme Court.


In total, CBS “This Morning” spent more than three minutes discussing the allegations of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh, yet never once asked Clinton about the multiple women who have accused her father of sexual misconduct throughout the years.

https://ntknetwork.com/cbs-spends-3-minutes-asking-chelsea-clinton-about-kavanaugh-allegations-never-mentions-bill/

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« Reply #538 on: October 03, 2018, 02:40:43 PM »
No mention of Keith Ellison's assault allegations by his ex girlfriend, nor of Al Franken's groping of several female colleagues. But yeah, the media's totally objective, fair and balanced.

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« Reply #539 on: October 03, 2018, 04:47:09 PM »
Democratic staffer arrested in doxxing of GOP senators during Kavanaugh hearing

A Democratic congressional staffer was arrested Wednesday and accused of posting the personal information of at least one Republican senator during last week's hearing about sexual assault claims against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, authorities said.

U.S. Capitol Police said 27-year-old Jackson Cosko was charged with making public restricted personal information, witness tampering, threats in interstate communication, unauthorized access of a government computer, identity theft, second-degree burglary and unlawful entry. Police added that the investigation was continuing and more charges could be filed.

Senior congressional sources tell Fox News that Cosko most recently worked as a staffer for Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas. He also had worked with Sen. Maggie Hassan, D-N.H., and former Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California. A LinkedIn page with Cosko's name on it describes him as a "Democratic Political Professional & Cybersecurity Graduate Student."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-staffer-arrested-in-doxxing-of-gop-senators-during-kavanaugh-hearing

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #540 on: October 03, 2018, 05:01:15 PM »
No mention of Keith Ellison's assault allegations by his ex girlfriend, nor of Al Franken's groping of several female colleagues. But yeah, the media's totally objective, fair and balanced.

great point

I did a google search on Franken allegations and couldn't find a damn thing other than Fox, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBS, PBS, Newsweek, Vox, Washington Post, USA Today, CNN.  Seems like the media just completely ignored it.

Franken denied most of the allegations which were things like putting his hand on a womans ass during a photo and and putting his hand on a womans waist during another photo shoot.  Pretty serious stuff

Of course Franken stepped down and as you've pointed out, the media is so unfair in not reporting on that.

Kavanaugh should absolutely follow Frankens example and withdraw his nomination

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #541 on: October 03, 2018, 05:04:08 PM »
CBS Spends 3+ Minutes Asking Chelsea Clinton About Kavanaugh Allegations, Never Mentions Bill



CBS “This Morning” interviewed Chelsea Clinton about the allegations of sexual misconduct against Supreme Court nominee, Judge Brett Kavanaugh, but failed to ask her about the multiple allegations against her father, former President Bill Clinton, on Wednesday.


Norah O’Donnell asked Chelsea Clinton what she thought about President Trump mocking Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee at a campaign event on Tuesday.

“I don’t think the president should be mocking anyone. I don’t think he should be mocking Dr. Ford. I don’t think he should be mocking a gold star family. I don’t think he should be mocking a disabled reporter,” Clinton said.


Gayle King followed up by asking Clinton what she thought about Kavanaugh’s testimony and his mention of the Clintons.

“Oh, my gosh, we loom so much larger in your mind than you loom, at least in mine,” Clinton said. “But to me what was so troubling was how nakedly partisan he was, and I think the principle of a judicial review being absent of partisanship is still really important.”


“I just don’t think that that is healthy as a dynamic on the Supreme Court or, really candidly, any court,” she added.

Clinton then said she doesn’t think that Kavanaugh, whose nomination she opposed from the beginning, should be confirmed to the Supreme Court.


In total, CBS “This Morning” spent more than three minutes discussing the allegations of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh, yet never once asked Clinton about the multiple women who have accused her father of sexual misconduct throughout the years.

https://ntknetwork.com/cbs-spends-3-minutes-asking-chelsea-clinton-about-kavanaugh-allegations-never-mentions-bill/

They definitely should have asked her about her father being impeached by Republicans for lying about consensual relationship that had nothing to do with the investigation of a real estate deal in Arkansas.

With that premise they could have led into whether Kavanaugh should be impeached from his current job for repeatedly lying under oath to Congress.

Really seems like they missed an easy lay up by not asking that obvious question

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #542 on: October 03, 2018, 05:04:10 PM »
Democratic staffer arrested in doxxing of GOP senators during Kavanaugh hearing

A Democratic congressional staffer was arrested Wednesday and accused of posting the personal information of at least one Republican senator during last week's hearing about sexual assault claims against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, authorities said.

U.S. Capitol Police said 27-year-old Jackson Cosko was charged with making public restricted personal information, witness tampering, threats in interstate communication, unauthorized access of a government computer, identity theft, second-degree burglary and unlawful entry. Police added that the investigation was continuing and more charges could be filed.

Senior congressional sources tell Fox News that Cosko most recently worked as a staffer for Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas. He also had worked with Sen. Maggie Hassan, D-N.H., and former Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California. A LinkedIn page with Cosko's name on it describes him as a "Democratic Political Professional & Cybersecurity Graduate Student."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-staffer-arrested-in-doxxing-of-gop-senators-during-kavanaugh-hearing
Hopefully they ask him who put him up to this. :D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #543 on: October 03, 2018, 05:04:59 PM »
Democratic staffer arrested in doxxing of GOP senators during Kavanaugh hearing

A Democratic congressional staffer was arrested Wednesday and accused of posting the personal information of at least one Republican senator during last week's hearing about sexual assault claims against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, authorities said.

U.S. Capitol Police said 27-year-old Jackson Cosko was charged with making public restricted personal information, witness tampering, threats in interstate communication, unauthorized access of a government computer, identity theft, second-degree burglary and unlawful entry. Police added that the investigation was continuing and more charges could be filed.

Senior congressional sources tell Fox News that Cosko most recently worked as a staffer for Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas. He also had worked with Sen. Maggie Hassan, D-N.H., and former Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California. A LinkedIn page with Cosko's name on it describes him as a "Democratic Political Professional & Cybersecurity Graduate Student."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-staffer-arrested-in-doxxing-of-gop-senators-during-kavanaugh-hearing

Good.  I am surprised they are actually trying to hold someone accountable. 

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #544 on: October 03, 2018, 05:11:54 PM »
McCarthyism. 

Kamala Harris Presents Letter Claiming Kavanaugh & Friend Repeatedly Raped ‘Jane Doe’ in Car
1 Oct 2018
The Senate Judiciary Committee questioned Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh last Wednesday regarding a letter delivered to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) in which an anonymous woman claims she was repeatedly raped by the judge without providing any details to investigate.

. . .

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/01/kamala-harris-presents-letter-claiming-kavanaugh-friend-repeatedly-raped-jane-doe-in-car/

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« Reply #545 on: October 03, 2018, 05:12:21 PM »
Democratic staffer arrested in doxxing of GOP senators during Kavanaugh hearing

A Democratic congressional staffer was arrested Wednesday and accused of posting the personal information of at least one Republican senator during last week's hearing about sexual assault claims against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, authorities said.

U.S. Capitol Police said 27-year-old Jackson Cosko was charged with making public restricted personal information, witness tampering, threats in interstate communication, unauthorized access of a government computer, identity theft, second-degree burglary and unlawful entry. Police added that the investigation was continuing and more charges could be filed.

Senior congressional sources tell Fox News that Cosko most recently worked as a staffer for Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas. He also had worked with Sen. Maggie Hassan, D-N.H., and former Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California. A LinkedIn page with Cosko's name on it describes him as a "Democratic Political Professional & Cybersecurity Graduate Student."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-staffer-arrested-in-doxxing-of-gop-senators-during-kavanaugh-hearing

I wonder if this is the same person on Capitol Hill, operating from a congressional IP address,  updated WIKI about the definition of Devil Triangle after Kavanaugh lied about it under oath last week.  

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #546 on: October 03, 2018, 05:13:20 PM »
McCarthyism.  

Kamala Harris Presents Letter Claiming Kavanaugh & Friend Repeatedly Raped ‘Jane Doe’ in Car
1 Oct 2018
The Senate Judiciary Committee questioned Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh last Wednesday regarding a letter delivered to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) in which an anonymous woman claims she was repeatedly raped by the judge without providing any details to investigate.

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https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/01/kamala-harris-presents-letter-claiming-kavanaugh-friend-repeatedly-raped-jane-doe-in-car/


You mean Republican Senator Joe McCarthy?


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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #547 on: October 03, 2018, 05:25:48 PM »
Christine Blasey Ford's changing Kavanaugh assault story leaves her short on credibility
Margot Cleveland, Opinion contributor
Published Oct. 3, 2018

Put aside Christine Blasey Ford's emotional performance. Her testimony revealed her as a witness whose memories change at her convenience.

When Christine Blasey Ford testified last week before the Judiciary Committee, America witnessed a haunted woman recounting a devastating trauma. But putting aside Ford’s emotional performance and focusing instead on the professor’s testimony reveals numerous inconsistencies in her narrative that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her.

As a sex-crimes prosecutor, Republican questioner Rachel Mitchell is well-positioned to “know it when she sees it.” But rather than see Ford as a victim of sexual abuse by Kavanaugh, Mitchell saw her as a witness lacking in credibility. And this conclusion comes from an expert who knows that there are many reasons victims delay reporting sexual abuse. Mitchell also recognized that victims may legitimately not remember certain details related to an attack.

But the problem for Ford is not that she doesn’t remember everything: It is that everything she remembers changes at her convenience.

First, Ford’s testimony that the assault occurred in the summer of 1982, when just 15, conflicted with both her therapist’s notes and the text message Ford sent to the Washington Post. According to reporter Emma Brown, Ford claimed she had been assaulted in the mid-1980s; and the therapist’s notes stated Ford had been the victim of an attempted rape in her late teens. But by that time, Kavanaugh was attending Yale, so Ford’s recasting of the attack to the summer of 1982 is suspect.

Ford's story changed in key ways

Ford’s retelling of the alleged sexual assault also included several conflicting accounts of the number of individuals at the gathering. The therapist’s notes stated that four boys had attempted to rape Ford. (Ford claims her therapist confused the total number of boys at the party with the number of boys who had attacked her.)

Later, in her July letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Ford again placed the number of individuals at the party at five, stating the gathering included her and four other individuals. But Ford then identified the four by name, and that group included three boys and one girl. And finally, during her Senate testimony, Ford unequivocally stated that “there were four boys I remember specifically being there,” in addition to her friend Leland Keyser.

Another significant change in the scenario came when Ford testified about the location of the party. She had originally told the Washington Post that the attack took place at a house not far from the country club. Yet, when Mitchell revealed a map of the relevant locations and reminded Ford that she had described the attack as having occurred near the country club, Ford backtracked: “I would describe [the house] as it's somewhere between my house and the country club in that vicinity that’s shown in your picture.”  Ford added that the country club was a 20-minute drive from her home.

More: Don't count on FBI to clear up the Kavanaugh-Ford mess. Its record is flawed.

3 big questions hanging after Christine Blasey Ford's testimony on Brett Kavanaugh

How could both Kavanaugh and Ford seem to tell the truth? Trauma, alcohol and time.

Finally, Ford altered her description of the interior layout of the home and the details of the party and her escape.  A “short” stairwell turned into a “narrow” one. The gathering moved from a small family room where the kids drank beer (and which Ford distinguished from the living room through which she fled the house) when she spoke to the Washington Post, to a home described in her actual testimony as having a "small living room/family room-type area.” And in an obvious tell to the change, Ford suggested that she could draw a floor plan of the house.

These four points are significant. First, because Ford had waited 30-plus years to report the purported attack, a therapist’s notes from Ford's sessions with her husband countered claims that Ford had invented the assault to derail Kavanaugh’s confirmation. But the notes did not name Ford’s attacker. And the timing of the assault summarized by her therapist, whom Ford saw individually the following year, conflicted with Ford’s current claims against Kavanaugh.

The final three contradictions are even more significant because in each circumstance Ford altered her story only after Kavanaugh and Senate investigators had obtained evidence to disprove her original tale. For instance, investigators had obtained statements from Kavanaugh and the two men and one female lifelong friend of Ford’s, and they all denied any recollection of the gathering.

These contradictions mean Ford's not credible

Investigators also spoke with former classmates of Kavanaugh, including two men who showed staffers the “party houses” near the country club during the relevant time period. And the detailed description of the home interior Ford originally provided allowed investigators to compare her story to the layout of the homes of the individuals Ford identified. But then Ford changed her description of the house’s floor plan.

Since media leaks of Ford’s charges first broke, Kavanaugh and his supporters have stressed the impossibility of proving the negative: Kavanaugh could not prove he did not attack Ford. But Kavanaugh could prove that Ford’s story could not possibly have happened by showing that none of the individuals at the supposed party lived in a house near the country club, and that none of their houses matched that described by Ford.  Kavanaugh and investigators were poised to do so when Ford changed her story.

Open-minded Americans of all stripes should see that — emotions aside — Ford’s testimony is completely devoid of credibility: so much so, that Mitchell told the Senate this week that Ford’s allegations do not even meet the preponderance of evidence standard. That standard, which governs in civil litigation, asks whether it is more likely than not that an event occurred.

Yes, victims must be believed. But Ford is not a victim — at least not of Kavanaugh.

Margot Cleveland is a lawyer and an adjunct instructor at the University of Notre Dame. Follow her on Twitter: @ProfMJCleveland

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/03/christine-blasey-ford-changing-memories-not-credible-kavanaugh-column/1497661002/

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #548 on: October 03, 2018, 05:40:15 PM »
Straw - Have they voted him in yet ?
If not when are they going to vote ?

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #549 on: October 03, 2018, 09:59:38 PM »
Straw - Have they voted him in yet ?
If not when are they going to vote ?

McConnell says "test vote" on Friday

is that a thing?

Bart is probably over at Tobin's house