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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2018, 09:05:40 AM »
These guys are trading years of their life for TEMPORARY muscles.

And for our entertainment    ;D

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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2018, 09:38:12 AM »


He better take this seriously and retire from bodybuilding ASAP.

 Ray Mentzer also died from complications resulting from Berger's disease. It is said those complications resulted in kidney failure. Ray died just two days after discovering his brother Mike Mentzer's dead body in the very same apartment due to heart failure.

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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2018, 01:49:03 PM »
what would a cycle for him look like? doses and diuretics use ?



The cycles you see guys doing on fitmisc and reddit for physique are real and seems to be 3-4g/wk total of 3-4 compounds inc orals. HGH on top 4-6iu.

It's no secret it takes a lot of gear to compete. People used to lie about their doses, so many stories about coaches on the forums saying low dose is all you need then a few clients spoke out about hiring them and being chucked on grams and grams of gear (opposite of what was being preached). Bostin Loyd did a lot to blow the doors open on it all.

The issue nowadays though is on forums, trt has become 250-400/wk which is just plain wrong (im on 125/wk). guys are wanting to cruise long term on 500-900/wk. people are becomming immune to dosages.

Also consider in the US particularly it seems they start young so when you hear of a 25yr old guy having health issues, hes probably been hitting gear hard non-stop for 7yrs. Thats a looooong fucking time to be constantly hitting your organs.


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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2018, 03:40:54 AM »


He better take this seriously and retire from bodybuilding ASAP.

 Ray Mentzer also died from complications resulting from Berger's disease. It is said those complications resulted in kidney failure. Ray died just two days after discovering his brother Mike Mentzer's dead body in the very same apartment due to heart failure.


Interesting.  A good advice that not many in this industry will take.

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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2018, 01:10:54 PM »
A urinalysis detects if the kidneys are 'spilling protein. This is one sign of kidney failure. Proteinuria can also be a result of overproduction of proteins by the body.

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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2018, 03:29:44 PM »


Bullshit...Lots of bodybuilders, pro wrestlers from the 80's died young from steroids. 3 of my friends included.
Steroids simply are not toxic to the kidneys....high blood pressure that steroids contribute to is....diuretics and dehydration are...sorry about your friends

Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) may delay progression of chronic kidney disease (CKD) and lower the risk of death in men with hypogonadism, new findings presented at the National Kidney Foundation's 2017 Spring Clinical Meetings suggest.

Archana Goel, MD, of the Veterans Administration Medical Center in Kansas City, Missouri, and colleagues analyzed data from a large cohort of veterans diagnosed with low total testosterone (TT). The investigators divided patients into 2 groups: those treated and who had normalization of TT (38,708 men) and those who were not treated (9755 men) and continued to have low TT. The treated and untreated groups had follow-up times of 6.1 and 5.1 years, respectively.

Reference
Goel A, Oni O, Wiegmann P, et al. Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) delays progression of CKD and ESRD. Poster presented at the National Kidney Foundation's 2017 Spring Clinical Meetings in Orlando, Florida. Poster 239.

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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2018, 04:14:08 PM »
Anyone have that FLEX magazine that talked about Tom Platz entire downfall tied to Advil or Tylenol? That was a classic.

Competitive bodybuilding and personal responsibility are, in fact, mutually exclusive.

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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2018, 04:46:32 AM »
Advil can mess you up though.  This is true.

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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2018, 05:34:07 AM »
Anyone have that FLEX magazine that talked about Tom Platz entire downfall tied to Advil or Tylenol? That was a classic.

Competitive bodybuilding and personal responsibility are, in fact, mutually exclusive.

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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2018, 01:03:03 PM »
These guys are trading years of their life for TEMPORARY muscles.




Ironically Just about anyone outside bodybuilding see it that way ....  In bodybuilding/ you can be talking about dialysis , and almost every single Bodybuilder is hoping for a kidney  donor to keep the "work ethic" going rather than learning the lesson .


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Re: Chris bumbsted kidney disease
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2018, 01:10:06 PM »


He better take this seriously and retire from bodybuilding ASAP.

 Ray Mentzer also died from complications resulting from Berger's disease. It is said those complications resulted in kidney failure. Ray died just two days after discovering his brother Mike Mentzer's dead body in the very same apartment due to heart failure.

the article you posted quotes Jerry Brainum saying he thinks both Mike and Ray OD's on prescription pain killers.