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Mr.1derful

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One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« on: October 01, 2018, 06:47:51 PM »
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2018, 07:03:29 PM »
Agree
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2018, 07:07:27 PM »
I like the story he told in Golds that Viator and Mentzer were trying to deadlift 500lbs after training back and failed. He said he went up to the weight weighing about 190lbs and did reps with it.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2018, 07:12:08 PM »
Quote from: oldtimer1 on October 01, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
I like the story he told in Golds that Viator and Mentzer were trying to deadlift 500lbs after training back and failed. He said he went up to the weight weighing about 190lbs and did reps with it.

I think it was actually 585 lbs.  Viator and Mentzer couldn't move it but Samir did reps with it.
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TheShape.

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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2018, 07:13:48 PM »
Underrated physique all together. I think he was better than Haney.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2018, 07:19:28 PM »
Quote from: TheShape. on October 01, 2018, 07:13:48 PM
Underrated physique all together. I think he was better than Haney.

Fuck no.
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Dave D

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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2018, 07:26:27 PM »
I thought this thread was going to be about Terrell Davis. 😐
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2018, 07:30:02 PM »
Quote from: Dave D on October 01, 2018, 07:26:27 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about Terrell Davis. 😐

Too bad for his injuries. One of the best ever.
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Dave D

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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2018, 07:35:53 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on October 01, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
Too bad for his injuries. One of the best ever.

Yup. And apparently one of the more humble ones as well, he's letting a rookie wear his number now.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2018, 07:39:05 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on October 01, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
Too bad for his injuries. One of the best ever.

he was a system back, the broncos had plenty of other guys run for tons of yards

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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2018, 07:46:14 PM »
Quote from: Earl1972 on October 01, 2018, 07:39:05 PM
he was a system back, the broncos had plenty of other guys run for tons of yards

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None have had his numbers. Or rings.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2018, 07:47:33 PM »
Quote from: Dan-O on October 01, 2018, 07:12:08 PM
I think it was actually 585 lbs.  Viator and Mentzer couldn't move it but Samir did reps with it.

I think you are right.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2018, 07:49:39 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on October 01, 2018, 07:46:14 PM
None have had his numbers. Or rings.

they didn't have john elway either

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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2018, 07:51:53 PM »
Quote from: Earl1972 on October 01, 2018, 07:39:05 PM
he was a system back, the broncos had plenty of other guys run for tons of yards

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Way to stir the pot Earl.

No one had his sustained success. TD was better than any of the other backs that came after him.  When healthy he was every bit the talent that Clinton Portis was.

If he was only a system back why didn't everyone run that system? It's to easy.

Quote from: Earl1972 on October 01, 2018, 07:49:39 PM
they didn't have john elway either

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Who was a shadow of his former self.
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Earl1972

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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2018, 08:00:37 PM »
Quote from: Dave D on October 01, 2018, 07:51:53 PM
Way to stir the pot Earl.

No one had his sustained success. TD was better than any of the other backs that came after him.  When healthy he was every bit the talent that Clinton Portis was.

If he was only a system back why didn't everyone run that system? It's to easy.

Who was a shadow of his former self.

i'm not stirring a pot i'm setting you guys straight, as usual :P

elway was still making the pro bowl and he was super bowl mvp before he retired, why did the team stink as soon as he retired? 

as for the system, shanahan traded clinton portis who was making the pro bowl every year because he knew he could plug in anybody and not miss a beat

davis was good but he is nowhere near an all time back

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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2018, 08:22:04 PM »
Quote from: Earl1972 on October 01, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
i'm not stirring a pot i'm setting you guys straight, as usual :P

elway was still making the pro bowl and he was super bowl mvp before he retired, why did the team stink as soon as he retired? 

as for the system, shanahan traded clinton portis who was making the pro bowl every year because he knew he could plug in anybody and not miss a beat

davis was good but he is nowhere near an all time back

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Elway was great and probably had another good in him. Bubby Brister was the reason the team sucked with out him. Same reason a broken down Manning won a superbowl Paxon Lynch Trevor Siemian couldn't win games with a great D and recievers.


Other backs were plugged in but they were far from being long term replacements.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2018, 07:32:10 PM »
Quote from: TheShape. on October 01, 2018, 07:13:48 PM
Underrated physique all together. I think he was better than Haney.
1000% agree with you. Been saying that for years. 83 Samir is possibly the greatest O winner ever.
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Dan-O

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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2018, 08:01:37 PM »
Quote from: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 02, 2018, 07:32:10 PM
1000% agree with you. Been saying that for years. 83 Samir is possibly the greatest O winner ever.

Maybe you remember the Lou Ferrigno interview (done shortly after Samir's Olympia win) where he said that Bannout's win was a fluke and wouldn't happen again.  Why did he think that?  Was it maybe because of Samir's inability to peak consistently?  Or was it some other reason?
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2018, 09:00:46 AM »
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2018, 09:11:38 AM »
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2018, 09:20:09 AM »
Cool shot here!
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2018, 05:45:20 PM »
Samir in '83 was awesome. Too bad that he was never able to duplicate that condition again.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2018, 06:17:39 PM »
Quote from: Dan-O on October 02, 2018, 08:01:37 PM
Maybe you remember the Lou Ferrigno interview (done shortly after Samir's Olympia win) where he said that Bannout's win was a fluke and wouldn't happen again.  Why did he think that?  Was it maybe because of Samir's inability to peak consistently?  Or was it some other reason?

Likely jealousy
Also Samir won the Mr O - Lou didn’t.


Though Samir did have consistency issues with his conditioning.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2018, 07:08:21 PM »
Saw Samir in a Palumbo group interview after the Olympia. Seems like a cool dude. No ego.
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Re: One of the greatest, yet underrated backs of all time
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2018, 07:23:19 PM »
Quote from: Mr.1derful on October 01, 2018, 06:47:51 PM


Agreed.  He had a great back.  This picture is the best his back ever looked.  He never duplicated this form.
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