Are supersets a waste of time?

[cephissus]

I noticed that I use supersets to shorten a workout. If I want to do 8 exercises but can only focus for 5 exercises worth of time, i'll superset the remaining 3. But this just degrades my focus even more and lowers the quality of over half the workout.

[BlackMetallic]

I don’t do them just for that reason

I prefer drop sets

[cephissus]

I don’t do them just for that reason

I prefer drop sets

Nice, I like dropsets too. For arms or calves, I'll just do one set a lot of the time, with 2-3 drop sets, DC style.

[Tennisballz]

I do believe supersets are a waste of time.  I've never noticed a difference.

[robcguns]

Supersetting bis and tris is great anything else not so much.Even if for nothing more than a massive pump.Drop sets are cool as well I do one hammer curl drop set each arm workout starting at 110s dropping 10 lbs each time down to 20 so 10 drops,it’s brutal but feels great when over.

[Coach is Back!]

No, they’re not a waste of time. If you want to bring up a weak body part relatively quick, you can superset THE SAME body part, not opposing.

[cephissus]

No, they’re not a waste of time. If you want to bring up a weak body part relatively quick, you can superset THE SAME body part, not opposing.

Wouldnt it be better to just do the two exercises in sequence?

[Marty Champions]

its like being a pitcher who only throws fast balls, he never practices throwing curve balls. do you think his game is complete?

[Dave D]

No, they’re not a waste of time. If you want to bring up a weak body part relatively quick, you can superset THE SAME body part, not opposing.

Coach can you go a little more in depth with your answer why an opposing set, or chest/shoulder  is worthless?

Thanks

[Marty Champions]

Coach can you go a little more in depth with your answer why an opposing set, or chest/shoulder  is worthless?

Thanks

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my post

[IroNat]

Eddie Guiliani on supersetting:

https://www.greatestphysiques.com/eddie-giuliani/

"when Eddie wasn’t in a pre-contest phase, he would only do singular exercises with no supersets or drop sets."

"Supersetting the Right Way

Eddie always believed that supersetting is the way to go for competition training. However, when it came to training for growth, he says supersetting isn’t the best option.

According to Eddie, it’s hard to grow a muscle from rapid supersetting, as it only pushes a lot of blood into the muscle, and doesn’t break it down. He believes it’s crucial to break down the muscle tissue in order to grow, because only pumping blood in it won’t necessarily make it grow.

This is Eddie talking on supersets; “I can make a guy pump with a 20-lb dumbbell, but he’ll never get big arms that way. I can make him do enough reps that he can’t even curl it anymore because there’s so much blood in the area, but he’s not breaking down muscle tissue.”

For everyone who likes supersets, Eddie advises going for antagonistic muscle groups. Such as chest and back, quadriceps and hamstring, or triceps and biceps. While Eddie says this can be problematic for people with low stamina, it’s great for anyone who wants a bigger challenge, or simply wants to save time."

[Hypertrophy]

Yes they are.

If your goal is to build muscle you don’t want to fail because you are out of breath. You want to totally recover to normal breathing between efforts.

 When we want to improve our sprint in bicycle racing we do 10-15 second flat out efforts followed by 5-10 minutes easy recovery. If we want to build our aerobic capacity we do 10-15 second sprints followed by 15-30 seconds moderate spinning. The difference between workouts is we totally recover between sprint sessions but only partially recover for aerobic capacity training. Guys who train solely for sprints this way get huge legs. Guys who do aerobic capacity sprints get only moderate development. Ive seen this time and time again.

[IRON CROSS]

Legendary Vince Gironda: 8 X 8 

[Parker]

Supersetting bis and tris is great anything else not so much.Even if for nothing more than a massive pump.Drop sets are cool as well I do one hammer curl drop set each arm workout starting at 110s dropping 10 lbs each time down to 20 so 10 drops,it’s brutal but feels great when over.

I find that supersetting arms can only really be done when there is nobody in the gym, or nobody doing arms at the same time.

[oldtimer1]

Supersets are really tough in a commercial gym for something like back and chest.

 Anyone ever do giants sets for a body part?  I know one guy that did the following exercises right after each other for legs. Very little rest. He did the series four times. He did leg extensions, leg press, squats, and leg curls.  His legs were ripped. I tried to do one series and I was young back then and I nearly puked. It's brutal. He did this type of giant sets for every body part pre contest. The weights were somewhat moderate but doing these exercises right after each other felt like running all out for a quarter mile. He was at the time the most ripped guy I have ever seen.

[robcguns]

I find that supersetting arms can only really be done when there is nobody in the gym, or nobody doing arms at the same time.

Yeah doing at the gym is a pain in the ass,I e recently started training with a guy in his home gym and it’s great,he has dumbbells from 20-150,power rack,Smith,pull down,chi/dip,seated calve,t bar,etc... so we superset a lot.Been many years since I worked out in a good home gym and I have to say way better than commercial gym and we get more done cause we aren’t  walking around chatting all the time.

[IroNat]

Thread should be in Training section.

[Marty Champions]

u gays make shit complicated they use analogies to step outside retarded thinking and to continue problem solving. im at ease knowing how your retarded minds all think alike.

[Marty Champions]

Thread should be in Training section.

well put it there then u fucking librarian

[nufc0101]

Supersets of dumbell flyes/presses really works for me on a flat or incline bench. Anyone else do those regularly?

[pellius]

I do believe supersets are a waste of time.  I've never noticed a difference.

What have you noticed a difference doing?

[pellius]

No, they’re not a waste of time. If you want to bring up a weak body part relatively quick, you can superset THE SAME body part, not opposing.

So if that was the case wouldn't an experienced trainee that consistently did supersets have NO weak body parts?

[pellius]

Coach can you go a little more in depth with your answer why an opposing set, or chest/shoulder  is worthless?

Thanks

Where did he say it was worthless?

[Marty Champions]

Supersets of dumbell flyes/presses really works for me on a flat or incline bench. Anyone else do those regularly?

yeah maybe around 120 people do those great post!

[pellius]

Supersets are really tough in a commercial gym for something like back and chest.

 Anyone ever do giants sets for a body part?  I know one guy that did the following exercises right after each other for legs. Very little rest. He did the series four times. He did leg extensions, leg press, squats, and leg curls.  His legs were ripped. I tried to do one series and I was young back then and I nearly puked. It's brutal. He did this type of giant sets for every body part pre contest. The weights were somewhat moderate but doing these exercises right after each other felt like running all out for a quarter mile. He was at the time the most ripped guy I have ever seen.

Leg extension, leg press, and then squats was the routine Arthur Jones had Casey Viator do. He put Sergio Olivia through that as well and when Sergio first tried it, and remember Jones made you do everything until complete failure, Sergio collapse to the floor after squats and didn't move for 20 minutes.

I do pre-exhaust for everything except arms (which I superset bis/tris) but I could never do even one decent rep in the squat after doing a superset of extension and leg press. I could do it if I did the squats first and then the leg press but not the other way around.

But, at least in my gym, by far the biggest obstacle in getting the kind of training that I like to do, or rather think is best to do, which is one exercise after another non-stop, is other people in the gym with me. The 90% that just sit there on the equipment on their cells, watching TV and bull shitting with their friends. They do a half ass set, not coming anywhere close to pushing themselves, taking about 20 seconds and then just sit there for 4-5 minutes taking space and getting in the way. They may spend 1.5-2 hours in the gym but an easy 85% of that time is doing nothing. That's why the vast majority of people who go to the gym don't look like they ever worked out a day in their lives. They may be in the gym but they are not working out.