ill tell u this high carb moderate protein diets dont work

[Marty Champions]

been taking lean1 protein shakes n this other plant protein shake , the 2nd shake has erythritol in it and u gotta be careful taking it at night i think that shit thickend my blood up too much felt anxiety n heart beat too fast

blending up cabbage or a veggie is also good to calm ur body of the effects of these plant protein shakes that might be too strong


im going hardcore with higher protien and ditching carbs except for beans n watsever carbs in soy milk ill just have to accept

also drinking as much beer as i feel like too , beer gives me energy and puts me in an exceptional mood

i love lemon juice concentrate in water with stevia too just like lemonade

[IroNat]

None of that crap is any good.

Just a waste of money.

[Kwon]

None of that crap is any good.

Just a waste of money.

What about lemon juice concentrate?

[Kwon3]

High carb is only good for diabetes, heart disease, blood sugar spikes, sleepiness, and bloating. No one I know with a hard body got that way with "cheat" days or permabulking.

High protein, low-medium carb with morning pre-meal cardio or post-workout cardio and 4-5 days of moderate-weight training is how you do it.

[Marty Champions]

High carb is only good for diabetes, heart disease, blood sugar spikes, sleepiness, and bloating. No one I know with a hard body got that way with "cheat" days or permabulking.

High protein, low-medium carb with morning pre-meal cardio or post-workout cardio and 4-5 days of moderate-weight training is how you do it.

i tried with potatoes oats fruits wheat ectu just get superstuffed n sleepy

now i will get lazy ,when this happens i have beer

[tres_taco_combo]

egg tons of eggs - lots of them

[SOMEPARTS]

Pumpkin seeds/pepitas are the new lawn clippings. A falcon can't fly with the whole pumpkin but the seeds are no problem.

[IRON CROSS]

egg tons of eggs - lots of them

- depends on egg size, 20 small ones ( 60gr) or 20 large eggs of 80gr

[IroNat]

What about lemon juice concentrate?

Not good for your teeth really but other than that it's ok.

[tres_taco_combo]

- depends on egg size, 20 small ones ( 60gr) or 20 large eggs of 80gr

i am at around 24 eggs a day and i feel i am on rocket fuel -

[Hypertrophy]

been taking lean1 protein shakes n this other plant protein shake , the 2nd shake has erythritol in it and u gotta be careful taking it at night i think that shit thickend my blood up too much felt anxiety n heart beat too fast

blending up cabbage or a veggie is also good to calm ur body of the effects of these plant protein shakes that might be too strong


im going hardcore with higher protien and ditching carbs except for beans n watsever carbs in soy milk ill just have to accept

also drinking as much beer as i feel like too , beer gives me energy and puts me in an exceptional mood

i love lemon juice concentrate in water with stevia too just like lemonade

You'll soon get sick of plant protein shakes and start eating steaks Marty. Heme does a body good 

[Kwon]

Not good for your teeth really but other than that it's ok.

What about Pepitas?

[SF1900]

i tried with potatoes oats fruits wheat ectu just get superstuffed n sleepy

now i will get lazy ,when this happens i have beer

Eating fruit makes you feel super stuffed sleepy?   

[IroNat]

Eating fruit makes you feel super stuffed sleepy?   

Fruit is mostly sugar.  Spikes your insulin.

[Explorerspl]

High carb is only good for diabetes, heart disease, blood sugar spikes, sleepiness, and bloating. No one I know with a hard body got that way with "cheat" days or permabulking.

High protein, low-medium carb with morning pre-meal cardio or post-workout cardio and 4-5 days of moderate-weight training is how you do it.

Depends on the person really,I used to eat 6-700g carbs and 120-160 protein and stay extremely lean on 125mg test E a week and 4iu gh with 0 cardio lifting 3 days a week

[SF1900]

Fruit is mostly sugar.  Spikes your insulin.

Sounds like broscience, unless you’re eating 26 apples in one sitting.

I eat apples, bananas, raspberries, blackberries, etc., and have never felt these affects.

 Of course, everyone is different. Nonetheless you would have to eat a crap ton of fruit to feel sleepy.

[Humble Narcissist]

What about Pepitas?

All disgusting in different ways.

[Kwon3]

Depends on the person really,I used to eat 6-700g carbs and 120-160 protein and stay extremely lean on 125mg test E a week and 4iu gh with 0 cardio lifting 3 days a week

That’s because you were on drugs, genius. The moment you had steroids to the equation, natural dieting protocols go out the window.

[Explorerspl]

That’s because you were on drugs, genius. The moment you had steroids to the equation, natural dieting protocols go out the window.

125 test(real trt dose) and 4iu GH is the kitchen sink of a cycle lol especially at 26

[IRON CROSS]

Eating fruit makes you feel super stuffed sleepy?   

Could be chronic fatigue syndrome 

[IRON CROSS]

Depends on the person really,I used to eat 6-700g carbs and 120-160 protein and stay extremely lean on 125mg test E a week and 4iu gh with 0 cardio lifting 3 days a week

I can easily live on fruit (jack & dragon fruit,durian,mango) & amino acids (Musashi brand) smoothies. No protein shakes & no booze.
Agree, depends on the person & lifestyle ..............

[Kwon3]

125 test(real trt dose) and 4iu GH is the kitchen sink of a cycle lol especially at 26

Well, it’s definitely not an Olympia stack but if it doesn’t make much of a difference, why not be natural? Seems a waste of money. Most people I know aren’t on test and have no clue what GH is, so it’s hardly normal to be on those things.

[Explorerspl]

Well, it’s definitely not an Olympia stack but if it doesn’t make much of a difference, why not be natural? Seems a waste of money. Most people I know aren’t on test and have no clue what GH is, so it’s hardly normal to be on those things.

If I'm taking TRT test have you thought maybe I can't be "natural" any more? As if having levels around 800-900 at 26 is super natural lol

I really wonder how some people here found their way to a bodybuilding board

[Kwon3]

If I'm taking TRT test have you thought maybe I can't be "natural" any more? As if having levels around 800-900 at 26 is super natural lol

I'm not your doctor. There's no way for me to know your test levels or whether your nuts are shot off because you pumped yourself full of hormones and can't produce any of your own anymore. GH has nothing to do with restarting your test, either, so you're clearly double dipping with that. If you're on prescribed TRT, that's fine, not judging, but stop comparing yourself to a natural, because you're still more enhanced than us, which means you can have a somewhat more lenient diet and still hold some mass and conditioning.

I really wonder how some people here found their way to a bodybuilding board

Stop being a smartass. Bodybuilding isn't just about drug abuse or 20-somethings whose balls don't work anymore.

[Explorerspl]

I'm not your doctor. There's no way for me to know your test levels or whether your nuts are shot off because you pumped yourself full of hormones and can't produce any of your own anymore. GH has nothing to do with restarting your test, either, so you're clearly double dipping with that. If you're on prescribed TRT, that's fine, not judging, but stop comparing yourself to a natural, because you're still more enhanced than us, which means you can have a somewhat more lenient diet and still hold some mass and conditioning.
Stop being a smartass. Bodybuilding isn't just about drug abuse or 20-somethings whose balls don't work anymore.

Bodybuilding has always been about drug abuse