Helping Street People

[Thin Lizzy]

Guess you didn't notice the national statistics.

Minimum wage is not meant to be a livable wage. It’s meant for entry level employment. In fact, it does way more harm than good as it is a price control. When you raise prices artificially, you reduce demand. This hurts the people at the bottom of the economic ladder. Once again, it’s an example of liberal good intentions backfiring because of economic illiteracy.

[bigkid]

It's amazing how people get fixated on minimum wage.  It's for entry level, unskilled work.  You know what I do at my company every time min wage goes up? I let 5-10 people go.

[Thin Lizzy]

It's amazing how people get fixated on minimum wage.  It's for entry level, unskilled work.  You know what I do at my company every time min wage goes up? I let 5-10 people go.

A lot comes from Unions. They have a better chance of unionizing an industry when there is a small gap between the minimum wage and the union wage.

[stuntmovie]

Here's a question regarding a subject I know nothing about.

It concerns the present city of San Francisco as explained to me by a very intelligent and highly placed San Francisco resident .....

He explains that there are three (3) classes of San Franciscans ....

The Upper Class .... Wealthy individuals
The Middle Class .... Yearly income around $90,000
The Lower Income Class ...  

He says that the Lower Income Class are subsidized which allows them live in decent residences which are very expensive throughout the Bay Area.

But the Middle Income Class San Franciscans are on their own ... so they beome the city residents who have difficulty paying high monthly rents and are forced to move elsewhere.

So eventually SF will consist of the wealthy and the poor.

Also San Francisco is a "Sanctuary City" which either plans or presently allows non-citizens to vote .... which seems strange to me!

I no longer live in the Bay Area so I am ignorant when it comes to this subject, but I figure that some GetBiggers might explain the good or the bad ramifications of the above.

And ... Another San Franciscan says that the San-Francisco-Shit-On-The Street situation is an over-exaggeration  .... which I find hard to believe after reading the Shit-on-the-Street reports on this here internet.

Any GetBigger living in the city or within the Bay Area??

Would be good to hear from the horse's mouth regarding this SF sitution ... rather than the other end!!

Thanks!

[Thin Lizzy]

Stunt, it’s all basically a byproduct of rent control. New housing is required to alot of certain percentage of the units to low income residents. This means that the remaining housing costs even more to compensate. So, only wealthy people can afford those places.  Obviously, the middle class gets squeezed out and also the lower income people because the building of new housing is discouraged because it is cost prohibitive.

Essentially, every liberal policy that is designed to help the poor ends up hurting them. Now, they want to institute a tax on businesses to help support the homeless. Who is going to be hurt by this? The people at the bottom of the totem pole who will be let go because the businesses can no longer afford to pay them.

[Primemuscle]

The number of people scamming the system for disability is HUGE!  The city of Portsmouth Ohio has 25% of the adult population on disability.  In the 70's it was alcoholism, in the 80's the bad back, in the 90's migraine headaches and now it's anything "mental" that can't actually be tested such as bi polar disorder, social anxiety disorder and the like.

Since you claim to know the number of disability scammers is HUGE, can you provide us a number or even a percentage of Portsmouth disability recipients are scamming the system?

[Thin Lizzy]

Since you claim to know the number of disability scammers is HUGE, can you provide us a number or even a percentage of Portsmouth disability recipients are scamming the system?

Please, it goes on everywhere:




https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/nyregion/charges-in-lirr-disability-scheme.html


The Times articles reported that virtually every career employee of the railroad was applying for and receiving disability payments, giving the Long Island Rail Road a disability rate three to four times that of the average railroad.

[Humble Narcissist]

Since you claim to know the number of disability scammers is HUGE, can you provide us a number or even a percentage of Portsmouth disability recipients are scamming the system?

So you think 1/4 of the adult population of a city is disabled? 

[OneMoreRep]

Don't know if already mentioned in the thread, but White Castle mini-burgers are the perfect cure for a hangover.

"1"

[The Scott]

Don't know if already mentioned in the thread, but White Castle mini-burgers are the perfect cure for a hangover.

"1"

Not "Steak 'N' Shake"? 

I don't drink so I really can't say.  Never have and never will.   

[stuntmovie]

THIN LIZZY -  I seldom speak about shit I know nothing about, but I am familiar with the following which may or may not approve of what you said above concerning RENT CONTROL.

A good friend who I attended high school with eventually became a high school teacher ans was the only friend I had throughout my school teas who remaned to be a San Francisco resident.

He lived with his parents in the Sunset district of the city untin he completed college and then rented a large apartment on the top floor of a high rise building located at the very top of Nob Hill
which was and still is one of the finest residential areas throughout the Bay Area.

When he initially moved into the apartment  his rent was $800 a month
and shortly thereafter .... rent control was initiated ... so he continued to live in one of San Francisco's finest residences with an unreal view of the Bay Area until he retired.

Recently he became ill and moved in with family members north of the city and the individual who moved into that $800/month apartment is paying close to $5,000/month and commutes to Silicon Valley, but only when he cannot do his job on his home computer.

So I gotta assume that once these old time renters either move or pass away, the monthly rents will be raised accordingly which means that property values will also increase making San Fran even more expensive to live within.

Many people say that is common within every major US city so San Fran is not the only one in troule.

[Agnostic007]

THIN LIZZY -  I seldom speak about shit I know nothing about, but I am familiar with the following which may or may not approve of what you said above concerning RENT CONTROL.

A good friend who I attended high school with eventually became a high school teacher ans was the only friend I had throughout my school teas who remaned to be a San Francisco resident.

He lived with his parents in the Sunset district of the city untin he completed college and then rented a large apartment on the top floor of a high rise building located at the very top of Nob Hill
which was and still is one of the finest residential areas throughout the Bay Area.

When he initially moved into the apartment  his rent was $800 a month
and shortly thereafter .... rent control was initiated ... so he continued to live in one of San Francisco's finest residences with an unreal view of the Bay Area until he retired.

Recently he became ill and moved in with family members north of the city and the individual who moved into that $800/month apartment is paying close to $5,000/month and commutes to Silicon Valley, but only when he cannot do his job on his home computer.

So I gotta assume that once these old time renters either move or pass away, the monthly rents will be raised accordingly which means that property values will also increase making San Fran even more expensive to live within.

Many people say that is common within every major US city so San Fran is not the only one in troule.

I do find it hard to believe that people on the low income side are better off in San Francisco than those middle class. I was out there recently and met a lot of people. Some of our friends are from the area and the impression I got, and I may be wrong, is that in order for lower income people to live IN S.F. they must share a place with several other people. That's pretty common in expensive cities. 

[stuntmovie]

AGNOSTIC, I also find it hard to believe a lot of the shit I hear about San Francisco and I did not know the lower income group had to share a place with several other people in order to get 'substidized'.

But the fact that many people live together ....would that not alone make rent more affrdable due to the fact tht more people are sharing that rent obligation?

In that case why would additional aid from the city be necessary?

Is there a SF website that informs San Francicans how to obtain this supplimentary financial handout?

It all appears to be pretty damn strange to me as it seems to be an open invite for those without decent incomes to move to this strange city by thr bay?

PS ... I have relatives whose folks purchsed a 3 bedroom home in San Francisco's Sunset district in the 1950's for approximately $12,000 to $14,000 (US) .... and that house now appraises at $1,200,000. (Mainly due to the financial growth of Silicon Valley which used to be nothing but cherry and  apple trees .... and a train station.)

 

[Hulkotron]

It would be great if something could be done with all of them.

[The Scott]

It would be great if something could be done with all of them.

Mars needs idiots.  Send 'em there.

[IRON CROSS]

It would be great if something could be done with all of them.

1 way ticket >>> Liberia , 

[Primemuscle]

Just donated money to cover 15 Thanksgiving dinners to Portland Rescue Mission.

[6 Reps]

Don't know if already mentioned in the thread, but White Castle mini-burgers are the perfect cure for a hangover.

"1"

stunt/One:

White Castle began years ago in Columbus, Ohio and their popularity, although perhaps not for all tastes, has spread around the country.  White Castle has even been immortalized on celluloid:

[Kwon3]

Just donated money to cover 15 Thanksgiving dinners to Portland Rescue Mission.

Gee, great. I'm sure the thousands of people who have nothing to eat and live in outdoor tents will be really grateful you did that. 

[stuntmovie]

WARNING: Long and somewhat unrelated post here!

ONE MORE, 6 Reps, and all other White Castle enthusiasts,

I took your advice and returned to White Castle but without a hang-over which I seem to be impossible to get .... and once again ordered three of those little burgers and was still un-impressed ... but I sat down at the Casino Royale bar and set myself up like an inside-a-casino-Sunday-picnic, ordered a $3 beer, put $5 in the bar-top Poker slot machine ... and proceeded to enjoy those little burgers simply due to each of the above  .... the casino ambiance, the $3 beer, that Poker slot machine, and the catchup in those little hard to open 'envelopes' which I forgot to mention up above.

But if I had dined on those little burgers at one of the White Castle tables (less than 40 feet from that Casino Royal bar and under the same over-head) I would have offered the non-eaten ones non-gratis to the hungriest looking individual in that place.

So I now gotta admit that I like WC burgers under certain conditions ... and I still cannot believe that one or more would help a hangover unless you added  a half dozen apirins (?) along with that little package of hard to open catchup.

By the way ... Those $3 beers (your choice of many brands) in the Casino Royal are the cheapest drinks along the Strip unless you enter QVC where youcan also receive a limited amount of cash with a purchase without that $5 surcharge!

But the Stage Door bar on Flamingo (often a very tough place to enter) offers Bud drafts for 2.

So if you're thirsty and CHEAP, give them both a try!

I'm not cheap but I do long hikes on a daily basis usually along the LV Strip and I do take advantage of the rare things that the Strip has to offer.

[Agnostic007]

WARNING: Long and somewhat unrelated post here!

ONE MORE, 6 Reps, and all other White Castle enthusiasts,

I took your advice and returned to White Castle but without a hang-over which I seem to be impossible to get .... and once again ordered three of those little burgers and was still un-impressed ... but I sat down at the Casino Royale bar and set myself up like an inside-a-casino-Sunday-picnic, ordered a $3 beer, put $5 in the bar-top Poker slot machine ... and proceeded to enjoy those little burgers simply due to each of the above  .... the casino ambiance, the $3 beer, that Poker slot machine, and the catchup in those little hard to open 'envelopes' which I forgot to mention up above.

But if I had dined on those little burgers at one of the White Castle tables (less than 40 feet from that Casino Royal bar and under the same over-head) I would have offered the non-eaten ones non-gratis to the hungriest looking individual in that place.

So I now gotta admit that I like WC burgers under certain conditions ... and I still cannot believe that one or more would help a hangover unless you added  a half dozen apirins (?) along with that little package of hard to open catchup.

By the way ... Those $3 beers (your choice of many brands) in the Casino Royal are the cheapest drinks along the Strip unless you enter QVC where youcan also receive a limited amount of cash with a purchase without that $5 surcharge!

But the Stage Door bar on Flamingo (often a very tough place to enter) offers Bud drafts for 2.

So if you're thirsty and CHEAP, give them both a try!

I'm not cheap but I do long hikes on a daily basis usually along the LV Strip and I do take advantage of the rare things that the Strip has to offer.

Used to stay are Harrahs before it just got too smokey and spent most of my time taking advantage of the odds at the Casino Royale. Can't beat the odds on the strip. Spent countless hours at the craps and blackjack tables. Played just enough at Harrahs to get comped rooms. Our tradition was always eating a prime steak at the Outback there. I never understood my buddies insisting on that, given you can find an Outback anywhere, but I guess there is the only Outback that serves a prime ribeye. Not to be a party pooper, I have eaten a few there.

[AbrahamG]

Since you claim to know the number of disability scammers is HUGE, can you provide us a number or even a percentage of Portsmouth disability recipients are scamming the system?

I'll answer for him.  No, he most certainly cannot.

[stuntmovie]

AGNOSTIC, I walk/stumble at least 3X a week. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the steak-house in Harrah's called "Ruth's Chris Steak House"?

OH, Yea! My mistake! You are correct about OUTBACK being located upstairs in the CASINO ROYALE!

Are you aware that the Casino Royale deals $5 BJ from a continuous Shuffeling machine now-a-days and only pays 6-5?

But the do have one table that deals a one-deck game for $10 which surprised me.

Another big surprise is the large number of 20 somethings who play roulette in which the is something like a 25% disadvantage.

And what is winning strategy at the Craps table? I know all the odds but never seen to walk away a winner ....and the number 9 always seems to come up more than any other.

[Agnostic007]

AGNOSTIC, I walk/stumble at least 3X a week. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the steak-house in Harrah's called "Ruth's Chris Steak House"?

OH, Yea! My mistake! You are correct about OUTBACK being located upstairs in the CASINO ROYALE!

Are you aware that the Casino Royale deals $5 BJ from a continuous Shuffeling show now-a-days and only pays 6-5?

But the do have one table that deals a one-deck game for $10 which surprised me.

Another big surprise is the large number of 20 somethings who play roulette in which the is something like a 25% disadvantage.

And what is winning strategy at the Craps table? I know all the odds but never seen to walk away a winner ....and the number 9 always seems to come up more than any other.

It's been a year or so since I gambled at the CR. I don't know the winning strategy at the craps table I just know how to limit my losses while my buddies play. It's just entertainment for me. I play the pass line, odds on the pass line,  6 and 8 and that is it. I press once I recoup my initial outlay. Then it's just a matter of having fun. 

[Humble Narcissist]

I'll answer for him.  No, he most certainly cannot.

So I guess you think all of those people are legitimately disabled?