BPH/prostatitis

[stuntmovie]

NJ, No medical knowledge  here but it sounds like you are describing kidney stones.

[deadz]

Quick update just had my appointment,  it was a lady made things interesting. She put her finger in my butt and looked and touched my penis lol. She said my prostate didn't feel enlarged at all just "boggy". She wrote me for 3 weeks of Cipro. I asked her for flomax so I can get some sleep.

I didn't tell her my whole history I thought about a lot if it comes down to it I will.  I'm going back in a month for a follow up. They are going to scan my bladder when I go back. I'm going to drop the flowmax a week before I go back if I'm still having issues I'll tell them about the juice. I don't want my insurance screwing me over.

Im a bit skeptical I feel like I could still have BPH. My PSA was low and my rectal exam came back negative. So hopefully not  If I'm still having problems I'll ask for the camera up the penis or whatever it us they do.

DONT TELL ANY DOCTOR YOURE USING STEROIDS. IT WILL BE REPORTED TO YOUR INSURANCE AND YOULL BE FUCKED!

[Primemuscle]

This is bad I'm tired and mentally drained. Hopefully things will become more clear.

Try not to stress out. It won't help and it could make matters worse. If one urologist doesn't have the answer, try another.

[stuntmovie]

Are you sure about that, DEADZ?

[deadz]

Are you sure about that, DEADZ?

I was prescribed a med in the past I only used for a short time. If I have any complications from what the med was prescribed for I will be on my own to pay for it. Unless the ins laws have changed in the patients favor which rarely happens.

[Marty Champions]

Spiro is posting as a fool, heal yourself with cranberry juice b4 bed , have 2 gallons of water perday, eat high protien low to moderate carb

[AbrahamG]

Spiro is posting as a fool, heal yourself with cranberry juice b4 bed , have 2 gallons of water perday, eat high protien low to moderate carb and most importantly, suck your own cock

Solid advice from Johnny F.

[Danny-Boy]

Please don’t take any of the bro-science meds that these people are suggesting...


Enlarged prostate is most likely going to occur to all of us men — >65 yrs in age..the size will increase..

If labs are coming out negative and very low PSA count then you have nothing to be concerned about (meaning = malignancy concerns) other than the symptoms that are annoying such as: difficulty urinating, hesitation w/ flow/stream, pain w/ urination.   PSA analysis is not a good screening tool for cancer but it does help us Doctors navigate a person who has already been diagnosed w/ prostate cancer and quantify it if it does start to increase again AFTER already receiving treatment.

How to tell if your enlarged prostate is benign?   Well, if doc does digital rectal exam on you..and feels a smooth enlargement that is enlarged homogenously (all-around) then you are good to go..  only complication would most likely be obstruction to your urine stream.. if enlarges enough..can be risk factor for further UTIs in the future...


If malignant= Prostate enlargement wouldn’t be so uniform (irregular- and most likely in a posterior portion of prostate)


BOTTOM LINE:    You might want to ask doc for Alpha-1 blockers= if affecting your urination..  these line of drugs will cause relaxation of these muscles .. but be weary if already using other anti-hypertensive meds... as many older men can experience orthostatic hypotension (syncope/fainting)

Another line of treatment would be  Androgen Receptor blockers.. as more TEST will further exacerbate the the growth of the prostate and cause further obstruction

So if you are feeling burning sensation..raise of temp...etc.    think UTI. =(.    

[Danny-Boy]

BTW i didn’t name Generic brand name of medications.. as it is best for you to understand the mechanism of action of these type of meds to ask for.. there are several different brands... Tamsulosin aka Flomax is the Alpha-1 blocker

And Flutamide (androgen receptor blocker). But dont be concerned w this unless you got full blown malignancy =(

[njflex]

NJ, No medical knowledge  here but it sounds like you are describing kidney stones.

no,,not in my case,i had prostate issue similar symptoms,passing a stone i hear is brutal.

[njflex]

BTW i didn’t name Generic brand name of medications.. as it is best for you to understand the mechanism of action of these type of meds to ask for.. there are several different brands... Tamsulosin aka Flomax is the Alpha-1 blocker

And Flutamide (androgen receptor blocker). But dont be concerned w this unless you got full blown malignancy =(

i use generic flomax ,no sides other than occasional lightheadness .

[Danny-Boy]

Most likely a case of urinary tract infection due to urinary obstruction from enlarged prostate...   the increase in WBC is a nice indication of inflammation and increased urgency to pee....  bacteria love to thrive  in the areas of the urethral tract that is obstructed...    and yes.. prostates will enlarge for us all. BUT TEST does exponentially increase the rate of growth

[Danny-Boy]

i use generic flomax ,no sides other than occasional lightheadness .

Yeah flomax is usually ok in general population.. but unfortunately should be used w caution in an individual w other co-morbidities that is ALSO using anti-hypertensive medication.. cause this synergy of medications can cause severe hypotension—-that light-headedness that you speak of...   

[njflex]

Most likely a case of urinary tract infection due to urinary obstruction from enlarged prostate...   the increase in WBC is a nice indication of inflammation and increased urgency to pee....  bacteria love to thrive  in the areas of the urethral tract that is obstructed...    and yes.. prostates will enlarge for us all. BUT TEST does exponentially increase the rate of growth

interesting..i asked my dr how the heck did this pop out of nowhere,i said could i have gotten this from the sitting with my kids in a kiddie pool day before cause at the time was son was still in diapers and maybe he did something in the pool .i would never sit in a bacteria trap like that again’
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[njflex]

Yeah flomax is usually ok in general population.. but unfortunately should be used w caution in an individual w other co-morbidities that is ALSO using anti-hypertensive medication.. cause this synergy of medications can cause severe hypotension—-that light-headedness that you speak of...   
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my bp is good no issues there.

[sync pulse]

A sports doctor told me that for the 1952 Olympics, the Soviet lifters were given cypionate  during training.  Modern ancillaries were non-existent. They had to be catheterized in order to pee.

[stuntmovie]

Danny Boy, You seem to be very intelligent regarding this subject.

Do you work within the medical field?

And what is your opinion regarding Dr. Champion's advice?

I drink Cranberry Juice  almost as much as I drink water but still had postrate probems in the past, but cranberry juice seems to be recommended by many non-professional, cure advisors.

Or is it 'quackery'?

[Danny-Boy]

Danny Boy, You seem to be very intelligent regarding this subject.

Do you work within the medical field?

And what is your opinion regarding Dr. Champion's advice?

I drink Cranberry Juice  almost as much as I drink water but still had postrate probems in the past, but cranberry juice seems to be recommended by many non-professional, cure advisors.

Or is it 'quackery'?



MD here...  I would first ask the guy’s age.   >65 yrs is pretty much the age population you see this growth.. NO to Spironolactone as this would likely increase ratio of estrogen and cause other unwanted complications!     Cranberry juice wouldn’t solve the prostate enlargement but may help with urinary tract infection caused by an obstruction...   basically, any form of TEST will further exacerbate an already enlarging prostTe that is inevitable for all us males...  which is why the mainstay of treatment for those w prostate cancer is an androgen receptor blocking agent.     Most enlarged prostates are benign and usually don’t get worked up unless you are showing symptoms of other associated problems of malignancy such as lower back pain.   As malignancy from the prostate has a preference to metastasize to the bones of the spinal column

So for this forum population.    If you are experiencing symptoms of urinary retention, urgency,burning sensation , fever.. lay off the test and get a urine culture to determine specific bacterial infection and specific antibiotic.   Urinary obstruction can also lead to epididymitis if not treated urgently and can be quite painful....  all this more annoying than life threatening

[Danny-Boy]

Basically. You got to see the anatomy/location of the prostate. As it is in direct contact w the urethral tract exiting the bladder. 

[Danny-Boy]

Also. If this individual does have an enlarged prostate and confirmed obstruction, drinking excessive fluids is THE WORST thing to do. As this will further lead to urinary retention. NO BUENO!!  As increased urinary retention will back up and cause serious issues with both of you kidneys.... leading to bilateral hydronephrosis and possible acute renal failure if you keep poking the bear...

[spiro]

Danny-boy once the infection is gone does the urge too Urinate get better? I don't want to be stuck taking medication for the rest of my life if I don't need too. I took one flomax pill yesterday after dinner it completely relaxed my bladder.

[stuntmovie]

Dr. DANNY, Thanks!

I read somewhere that 90% of the male population will eventually have prostate problems  if they live long enough.

Here is some info I found on the net .

"Saw Palmetto has been used for centuries but recent studies have also revealed new herbs that work even better in reducing Enlarged Prostate symptoms such as Pygeum Africanum which is now the number one therapeutic treatment for BPH in France and Beta-sitosterol."

I think Larry King was suggesting a product made in France as the best available.

I've also read that this is a 50 BILLION dollar industry (bigger than the steroid market??) .... so there will be a lot of internet scams involved .... so it's best to follow the doc's advice.

Thanks, DOC! Would you be able to suggest an over the counter product/supp that would help with prostate complications?

One website recommends PROSTALEAF because of its Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto 300mg, Pygeum Africanum 150mg, Beta-Sitostrol (Plant Sterol Complex) 450mg, Vitamin-E 30ui and More.

But other websites suggest other brands, possibly because they are 'pushing' their own products.

All you GetBiggers will most likely have prostate problems before or shortly after retirement so take heed and take a close look at your medical coverage!

You're gonna need it!

[Danny-Boy]

Danny-boy once the infection is gone does the urge too Urinate get better? I don't want to be stuck taking medication for the rest of my life if I don't need too. I took one flomax pill yesterday after dinner it completely relaxed my bladder.

Just so you know...your bladder believe it or not knows and has a set residual volume of urine that is always acceptable for your body ..so if there is any kind of retention beyond this parameter, you body’s autonomic systemic knows to relieve itself..giving you that urge...   basically, if your obstruction is large enough to still complicate urination... look at your options to decrease the size.... depending on your age and if you are a good surgical candidate.. you may resect part of the prostate....  most do not as most are over 65 and would have worse setbacks by just being under the operating table....  there is also radiation therapy...   it first line of treatment are the medications I had listed above..  try them out first and avoid anabolics..esp if you want this taken care of

[Danny-Boy]

Dr. DANNY, Thanks!

I read somewhere that 90% of the male population will eventually have prostate problems  if they live long enough.

Here is some info I found on the net .

"Saw Palmetto has been used for centuries but recent studies have also revealed new herbs that work even better in reducing Enlarged Prostate symptoms such as Pygeum Africanum which is now the number one therapeutic treatment for BPH in France and Beta-sitosterol."

I think Larry King was suggesting a product made in France as the best available.

I've also read that this is a 50 BILLION dollar industry (bigger than the steroid market??) .... so there will be a lot of internet scams involved .... so it's best to follow the doc's advice.

Thanks, DOC! Would you be able to suggest an over the counter product/supp that would help with prostate complications?

One website recommends PROSTALEAF because of its Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto 300mg, Pygeum Africanum 150mg, Beta-Sitostrol (Plant Sterol Complex) 450mg, Vitamin-E 30ui and More.

But other websites suggest other brands, possibly because they are 'pushing' their own products.

All you GetBiggers will most likely have prostate problems before or shortly after retirement so take heed and take a close look at your medical coverage!

You're gonna need it!



No worries.. but I will have to be perfectly honest w you.  I do not have enough experience to refute the
Over the counter supplements that you have mentioned and their effectiveness..  I just know what works and what can treat the symptoms in clinical /hospital setting...   surgery is definitive.  But need to find out if you are a good candidate for surgery...     and yes you are right... we are all fucked w the prostate sometime down the line if we live long enough

[stuntmovie]

THANKS, DOC! (I say "DOC" because I used to train docs how to survive within a combat area (FMSS) many years ago, so I use that as a term of respect!)

So with everyone's permission I'm gonna post 'stuff' regarding YOUR prostate (spelling?) when I find 'stuff' that may be of interest to most prostate owners.

Here is one of those 'stuffs' ...

BPH: Otherwise known as an enlarged prostate, and generally is the most common prostate problem by far.

It typically affects older men the most, as only 1 in 12 suffer from it prior to age 40, while nearly half of men over the age of 50 will experience the issue, and the percentages continue to get worse with age.

By age 80, roughly 8 in 10 men will experience problem with an enlarged prostate.

NEXT UP: What a prostate does. Why we all got one!