When life is just daily misery.

[calfzilla]

Lots of questions come to mind. Like what happened? Is she an addict? Where is her family/friends to help?
And why do we turn our backs on people like this yet shower single whore mothers with welfare, food stamps, free health care, child support, free housing, grants, etc.

[pellius]

Yes, I once tried that for a homeless person in San Francisco (I think it was). I tried to arrange a photographer to take some pictures of the person and tell their story in an editorial. Unfortunately it was never came to be, but it was very close to getting that person some help to better their daily life, at least for a while with the influx of funds.

This lady needs extreme help. Not some fuckface as wes alluded to. This person is in serious dire straits. They would be suffering daily and it's no way to live.

Like I mentioned in the first paragraph, you could arrange for a newspaper to tell her story or a local photographer to do a pro-bono (or for a small fee) a photo-editorial on her, with the chance it may go viral. Set up a GoFundMe and have that mentioned in the editorial or wherever the photographer/newspaper tells their story. You could even make it something for the many homeless people in your area, by having a story told every week or month, and a GoFundMe to send whatever funds people can.

In this digital world of social media, something can spread like wildfire. People will care when they see the story. She needs hospital care and to get as much medical help as there can be.

I tell you what. I'm kind of an idiot and not very resourceful. I want you to walk me through this. Step by step.

Being that there is a news story on the homeless every day, along with a featured article at least once a month, tell me, very specifically, how to set up a photo/article and find someone that will do it for free? Who do I call? I want a name and number?

How do you set up a gofundaccount? In fact, since it's online why don't you do it?

Oh wait, you've already tried all this... but it never came to be. Why? Why don't you contact Stallone and have him cash out his new million dollar watch and help this lady?

You don't live in Hawaii so you are unaware of how big an issue the homeless situation is. It's affecting the economy because it's affecting tourism so that's why the government has jumped in. It's affecting their pockets. There are organizations and individuals that make it their life's mission to help the homeless.

Look at this lady. Look at her. She was just a few feet from me. Do you think her problem is that nobody is giving her food and water? Having enough to eat is not a problem with the homeless. They all have EBT cards. I can't tell you how many times a homeless person asks me to buy him/her some booze and let me use their EBT for $20 worth of food for $10 worth of booze.

There are only about five simple and easy rules to follow to make it in America. If you are permanently homeless there is something wrong with you. Charity, just giving these people stuff, is not going to fix anything. Yeah, I can give her a cheeseburger and a coke and that will make me feel good about myself. Like I've done something meaningful. But then what? What about tomorrow?

[BB]

You think that's why I posted it? Is anybody ridiculing her?

What a dick.

Oh, go fuck yourself, you old alligator handbag looking cock - sucker.

Almost one in the morning, and you're taking pictures of desperate old ladies to post a bodybuilding board. Not to help, etc.... but to make you feel better and give yourself something to talk about like some 60 year old Facebook hausfrau.

Did you maybe toss her a buck or two after you photographed her? Maybe offer to hook up with something off the dollar menu? Naw, you just made a shit post about her.

Good for you nana.

  

[pellius]

Oh, go fuck yourself, you old alligator handbag looking cock - sucker.

Almost one in the morning, and you're taking pictures of desperate old ladies to post a bodybuilding board. Not to help, etc.... but to make you feel better and give yourself something to talk about like some 60 year old Facebook hausfrau.

Did you maybe toss her a buck or two after you photographed her? Maybe offer to hook up with something off the dollar menu? Naw, you just made a shit post about her.

Good for you nana.

  

What a pure dick. So, so clueless.

Toss her a buck? Is that what you do? Other than making you feel better about yourself what have you accomplished? And I guaran-damn-tee you that I do far, far more for charity and helping other people out than you ever have.

And another faceless troll ragging on my appearance. Why don't you post a pic? I'm sure I am in much better shape then you have ever been.

[BB]

What a pure dick. So, so clueless.

Toss her a buck? Is that what you do? Other than making you feel better about yourself what have you accomplished? And I guaran-damn-tee you that I do far, far more for charity and helping other people out than you ever have.

And another faceless troll ragging on my appearance. Why don't you post a pic? I'm sure I am in much better shape then you have ever been.

Bullshit nana.

You got caught out here at 1 in the morning creepshooting old homeless women, so now you'll play it off like you actually do charitable things because people are politely calling you out on it.

And as for giving her a buck or two? Sure, if I'm looking at someone and see they're old and falling apart to the point I'm going "Shit, they're really fucked up" I give if I can spare it. I don't scurry around like a lout snapping pics.



 

[The Scott]

Most of these people are alcoholics and/or drug addicts.  Fuck 'em.  Bring back the loonie bins and take care of them within those walls instead of allowing them to bother normal people that didn't take drugs or booze to new levels of low.

Hawaii is a floating cucktard toilet these days.  I thought the volcano would flush some of it away, but nope.  Not yet.  

[pellius]

Most of these people are alcoholics and/or drug addicts.  Fuck 'em.  Bring back the loonie bins and take care of them within those walls instead of allowing them to bother normal people that didn't take drugs or booze to new levels of low.

Hawaii is a floating cucktard toilet these days.  I thought the volcano would flush some of it away, but nope.  Not yet.  

I agree though I would put it more gently -- lol. These morons with this "toss the a buck/start a gofundme page" just don't get it.

Homelessness is destroying Hawaii and tourism. We use to be able to help them but because it was against their will now they are left in the streets. Some people are just not competent mentally to make rational decisions.

[BB]

I agree though I would put it more gently -- lol. These morons with this "toss the a buck/start a gofundme page" just don't get it.

Ha, Nana is rambunctious tonight. Perhaps we'll get two creepshots of the downtrodden tonight.

[IroNat]

Jesus said...

"The poor will always be with you, but I will only be with you for a short time, so grab a beer and let's hang out."

[Army of One]

Really? Why don't you do that?

Im on the other side of the world, i have no clue who she is, where she is, i know nobody there.Better than being right next to her, and taking a pic while she is suffering to share with the degens on here.

[TheGreatOak]

I tell you what. I'm kind of an idiot and not very resourceful. I want you to walk me through this. Step by step.

Being that there is a news story on the homeless every day, along with a featured article at least once a month, tell me, very specifically, how to set up a photo/article and find someone that will do it for free? Who do I call? I want a name and number?

How do you set up a gofundaccount? In fact, since it's online why don't you do it?

Oh wait, you've already tried all this... but it never came to be. Why? Why don't you contact Stallone and have him cash out his new million dollar watch and help this lady?

You don't live in Hawaii so you are unaware of how big an issue the homeless situation is. It's affecting the economy because it's affecting tourism so that's why the government has jumped in. It's affecting their pockets. There are organizations and individuals that make it their life's mission to help the homeless.

Look at this lady. Look at her. She was just a few feet from me. Do you think her problem is that nobody is giving her food and water? Having enough to eat is not a problem with the homeless. They all have EBT cards. I can't tell you how many times a homeless person asks me to buy him/her some booze and let me use their EBT for $20 worth of food for $10 worth of booze.

There are only about five simple and easy rules to follow to make it in America. If you are permanently homeless there is something wrong with you. Charity, just giving these people stuff, is not going to fix anything. Yeah, I can give her a cheeseburger and a coke and that will make me feel good about myself. Like I've done something meaningful. But then what? What about tomorrow?

I wrote that reply to you (and also, more privately - as I feel it would be better served as a private matter - a PM about this) as a genuine way to give you some helpful information to turn this lady's life around via raising funds for medical bills and then if that was successful, reaching out to more homeless in your area. The powers of social media are incredible.

Yes, I was very happy to help you get this started since you are physically there and able to get things moving... until you became a jerk. I'm still in shock at your attitude, actually. I thought you were better than that. I thought you weren't just another dipshit fuckface that fills these boards... and life. I thought wrong.

I don't know you and I don't interact with you or anyone else on this forum. You came across as a blank slate that I was happy to help, because these sort of people need help the most out of anyone on Earth. It seemed like a good thing to try. Why you're being a Grade A Jerkoff is a question that I don't know the answer to. Maybe you always were one and I just never sensed it in your posts. That's my mistake.

However, to be a jerkoff about this type of thing... Shame on you.

[Agnostic007]

sad to see. You could bring her food. Your excuse that blah blah blah is just an excuse. If you cared enough to snap the pic, consider reaching out.. bring her something. Maybe you won't change her life, but you did something. 

[Marty Champions]

I kinda regret not forcing my grandma to drink a beer on her death bed , but she wouldnt even have water.... I think these people have level 10 depression must be hell

[Matt]

Alone, old, freezing, wet, hungry, sick, legs rotting off before your eyes due to diabetes, missing and rotting teeth, no realistic hope for the future.

Is there a point when it's just not worth it anymore? When every day is just pure abject misery. I sure would like to know this person's story.

Jordan Peterson said something to the effect that "Skid Row" is as much a psychological place as it is a physical one.  Sad stuff.  I guess at some point, we all lose everything and everyone.  I suppose if we just do our best every day, our days can create more good than they do bad.  Although opinions on how to achieve that vary.  What produces the best good for an individual may not be what produces the best good for the entire society.  I personally try my best to think as far into the future as possible, to provide a good environment for myself and my children, as best I know how.

Murrica! Dont need no accessible  healthcare for everyone! No Sir!

Canada's system isn't perfect.  I think the USA's model hurts the working poor the most, but anyone middle class or above in North America would likely be better off under the USA's private insurance model.

I would get better healthcare if I lived in the USA, given my income bracket in Canada.  So while Canada's system may be better overall [which is debatable - although it definitely is a cheaper system to implement], it is not necessarily better for every single individual Canadian.  There is no perfect system.

[MAXX]

Jesus said...

"The poor will always be with you, but I will only be with you for a short time, so grab a beer and let's hang out."

Must have been the old testament or tanakh. Was more real like that

".... And Jesus said, poor people suck because they are worthless so lets just ignore them and fuck some bitches"

that's new testament thou I believe

[pellius]

Ha, Nana is rambunctious tonight. Perhaps we'll get two creepshots of the downtrodden tonight.

You'd rather just close your eyes to other people misfortune and act like it doesn't exist because it disturbs your tender sensibilities and disrupts your anabolic window.

[pellius]

Im on the other side of the world, i have no clue who she is, where she is, i know nobody there.Better than being right next to her, and taking a pic while she is suffering to share with the degens on here.

There is not a single person suffering where you live that you can help?

I've talked to this lady. She is batshit crazy! Giving her money and food isn't going to help. She eats too much as it is. Loves McDonald's ice cream.

Instead of building these homeless encampments and porta-potties they need to bring back the Sanitoriums where they can get food, shelter, bathroom facilities and medical care. And they need to be forcibly put in there if they are mentally incompetent.

[pellius]

I wrote that reply to you (and also, more privately - as I feel it would be better served as a private matter - a PM about this) as a genuine way to give you some helpful information to turn this lady's life around via raising funds for medical bills and then if that was successful, reaching out to more homeless in your area. The powers of social media are incredible.

Yes, I was very happy to help you get this started since you are physically there and able to get things moving... until you became a jerk. I'm still in shock at your attitude, actually. I thought you were better than that. I thought you weren't just another dipshit fuckface that fills these boards... and life. I thought wrong.

I don't know you and I don't interact with you or anyone else on this forum. You came across as a blank slate that I was happy to help, because these sort of people need help the most out of anyone on Earth. It seemed like a good thing to try. Why you're being a Grade A Jerkoff is a question that I don't know the answer to. Maybe you always were one and I just never sensed it in your posts. That's my mistake.

However, to be a jerkoff about this type of thing... Shame on you.

You are a good and decent person with good intentions but good intentions are not enough. What you suggest will not work and has not worked. You are a living example of this. People need to be more concerned about doing something that makes a real difference and not doing things that just make you feel good about yourself. There's a reason we have more homeless now than ever before. And it's not because the cost of living has increased. Quality of life has increased exponentially since the 1970-80s and before. It's only when we changed our policy on how we handle street people. Remember how Rudy Guiliani cleaned up New York and dropped the crime rate drastically just by getting people off the street. Enforcing loitering laws. Cracking down on petty crime.

Gofundme, asking one group of people to give money to another group of people who have already proven that they cannot be responsible, is not going to work. Sorry to be so gruff and I didn't want to offend you because you have a good heart but that just isn't going to cut it. It's been tried and failed. You tried it and you failed.

You can't keep doing things that fail. It's like Socialism. No matter how many times it's tried it always fails. It's success rate is zero. People still believe in it because it sounds good and makes them think they are good people. Capitalism is about greed and competition, winners and losers, but Capitalism has lifted more lives out of poverty than anything in existence.

[pellius]

sad to see. You could bring her food. Your excuse that blah blah blah is just an excuse. If you cared enough to snap the pic, consider reaching out.. bring her something. Maybe you won't change her life, but you did something. 

Exactly why you are wrong! That type of thinking, "Well, at least you did something."

It's not about feeling good about yourself. You don't have a scintilla of a clue
what I do to help other people. That I've worked for charitable organizations and still do. Using my free time at my expense to help those less fortunate. I have a far, far better understand of this subject than you do.

I love how people are so quick to tell me what I should do when they don't do shit in their own lives. Someone mocked me for being out there late a night in the pouring rain talking a picture of this lady. Like I'm some kind of creep out in the dead of night photographing people suffering. Well, maybe you should think twice and ask yourself again why I am out late at night with homeless people when I could be home in a nice warm bed reading a good book.

[pellius]

Jordan Peterson said something to the effect that "Skid Row" is as much a psychological place as it is a physical one.  Sad stuff.  I guess at some point, we all lose everything and everyone.  I suppose if we just do our best every day, our days can create more good than they do bad.  Although opinions on how to achieve that vary.  What produces the best good for an individual may not be what produces the best good for the entire society.  I personally try my best to think as far into the future as possible, to provide a good environment for myself and my children, as best I know how.

Canada's system isn't perfect.  I think the USA's model hurts the working poor the most, but anyone middle class or above in North America would likely be better off under the USA's private insurance model.

I would get better healthcare if I lived in the USA, given my income bracket in Canada.  So while Canada's system may be better overall [which is debatable - although it definitely is a cheaper system to implement], it is not necessarily better for every single individual Canadian.  There is no perfect system.

Always well thought out, Matt. But ask yourself this: how many people go to Canada for specialized medical treatment versus how many people from Canada come to the US. And why is it that Canada's prescription drugs are cheaper when a lot of it comes from the US. That we pay more in the US for the drugs we make than the drugs we import to Canada.

[calfzilla]

Another big problem people seem to be unaware of is that there are people willing to take in homeless and drug addicted family members, they quickly get stolen from. Happened to two people I know. People are homeless for a reason, they can’t function under conventional norms of society.

[pellius]

Another big problem people seem to be unaware of is that there are people willing to take in homeless and drug addicted family members, they quickly get stolen from. Happened to two people I know. People are homeless for a reason, they can’t function under conventional norms of society.

Yeah, better to just give them a few bucks and cheeseburger and pat yourself on the back. At least you did something.

[calfzilla]

Yeah, better to just give them a few bucks and cheeseburger and pat yourself on the back. At least you did something.

No. Better to do nothing and hope they hit rock bottom sooner or later because that is when people most likely decide to make a change. Giving them money is enabling.

[BB]

You'd rather just close your eyes to other people misfortune and act like it doesn't exist because it disturbs your tender sensibilities and disrupts your anabolic window.

No, seeing as you needed to become an "Elf" and a simple hardware store job to help you feel manly,  it's probably a lost cause to explain to you how classless it is to roam the streets at 1 in the morning creepshooting the poor to post on body building forums. I'll just chalk it up to you being raised poorly.

Now you'll defect about how this lady is crazy, etc...., etc.... just like when you get caught pedo-ing out. It's ok Nana.

The funniest thing to me is that from what I've seen of you on the forums, you're just a notch or two above this old lady. A bored old man, who didn't have much of a career, nor friends, etc.... posting multiple paragraphs to a website.

Don't worry Nana, we'll be here to listen to your tales of old poor ladies, and Kwikset keys cut, and young girls grossed out by your veiny physique. We'll even let you regale us with tales of how awesome it was to be a 50+ year old elf.

[Humble Narcissist]

Another big problem people seem to be unaware of is that there are people willing to take in homeless and drug addicted family members, they quickly get stolen from. Happened to two people I know. People are homeless for a reason, they can’t function under conventional norms of society.

Exactly!  To get to that position in life a person has burned every bridge with family, friends, co workers and anyone else willing to help.