Its not gay, it's da cage

[HTexan]

Absolutely poor kids in the ghetto focus on sports more than anything else.  You haven't witnessed this?  It is almost all they focus on. Howie Long's kids and Johnny Manziel came from wealth and were set regardless if they succeeded or not in sports.  For poor kids they don't have that safety net and is why they should focus on education and workable skills and not so much on a 1 in a 1,000 chance.

So you're saying Johnny Manziel and Howie long's kids focused on sports because they were set up to succeed but you say other wealthy kids don't? Also poor kids focus on sports without a safety net? You seem to be contradicting yourself? Maybe you can explain your point another way?

[Humble Narcissist]

So you're saying Johnny Manziel and Howie long's kids focused on sports because they were set up to succeed but you say other wealthy kids don't? Also poor kids focus on sports without a safety net? You seem to be contradicting yourself? Maybe you can explain your point another way?

Long's kids and Manziel were not middle class.

[HTexan]

Long's kids and Manziel were not middle class.

Exactly my point. Can you explain that?

[Humble Narcissist]

Exactly my point. Can you explain that?

Can you read?  Poor kids put almost all of their focus on sports and neglect education.  Very wealthy kids are set for life anyway so they can also focus on sports more plus they have the best coaching available.  Middle class kids have to earn a living when they grow up and so they put focus on academics and not as much on athletics.  I never met any kid at my school who had any chance of ever being a pro athlete but they realized this and focused more on school.

[HTexan]

Can you read?  Poor kids put almost all of their focus on sports and neglect education.  Very wealthy kids are set for life anyway so they can also focus on sports more plus they have the best coaching available.  Middle class kids have to earn a living when they grow up and so they put focus on academics and not as much on athletics.  I never met any kid at my school who had any chance of ever being a pro athlete but they realized this and focused more on school.

You're still not answering the question, and you fail to see how you're contradicting yourself.

[Thin Lizzy]

So you're saying Johnny Manziel and Howie long's kids focused on sports because they were set up to succeed but you say other wealthy kids don't? Also poor kids focus on sports without a safety net? You seem to be contradicting yourself? Maybe you can explain your point another way?

You’re pointing out exceptions. The rule is that most to come from poorer backgrounds.

[Primemuscle]

So what? That had nothing to do with the issue. For chrissakes, Prime, does everything have to get back to homosexuality?

And how do you know, and would you know, that there are more/particularly gays in wrestling?

We get that you're bi. No need to keep bringing it up

Apparently you forgot to read this tread's title.

[Primemuscle]

You are absolutely right prime. There are gay folks that are into wrestling. There are also gay folks that are into tennis, basketball, golf and football. Gays are everywhere.

What's even crazier is that the vast majority of gay men started off as straight men. So logic dictates that deep within many straight men lies a flaming homosexual that is just waiting to be exposed. Maybe wrestling is a gateway sport to full blown homosexualism.

Who knows. But you're right prime, there are a lot of gay folks into wrestling. I mean, do you remember Coco beware?




"1"

I don't remember KoKo B. Ware, but he looks pretty flamboyant in that photo and others I just viewed. Sometimes, I think it's just an act as in shtick or gimmick. Maybe these "straight" men stifled their same sex attractions for various reasons. Now that being gay is somewhat more acceptable, many people feel freer to express various aspects of their sexuality publicly. One thing you are absolutely right about is that gay folks are everywhere. They always were but now they don't feel the need to hid it in the closet.

Speaking of wrestling, East Coast Wrestling Club, wrestlemen.com, Metro Wrestling and Wrestling Without Borders are all gay friendly or gay oriented wrestling clubs and organizations. Wrestling is not just another contact sport because the contact gets really intimate at times.  

[pellius]

Apparently you forgot to read this tread's title.

Apparently, you forgot to read my post.

But I get it. Anything you can do to normalize and encourage homosexual behavior. You foresee a time of progressive victory when a father can look on at his son walking out the door on his first date and it wouldn't matter if he was hand and hand with a girl or hand and hand with a guy. In fact, it would just be a cherry on the top and pure gravy if at least one of the boys were dressed as a girl, or if a girl, dressed as a boy. As long as the behavior is not traditional and not normal as defined throughout all of human history then it should be encouraged and celebrated.

[illuminati]

Apparently, you forgot to read my post.

But I get it. Anything you can do to normalize and encourage homosexual behavior. You foresee a time of progressive victory when a father can look on at his son walking out the door on his first date and it wouldn't matter if he was hand and hand with a girl or hand and hand with a guy. In fact, it would just be a cherry on the top and pure gravy if at least one of the boys were dressed as a girl, or if a girl, dressed as a boy. As long as the behavior is not traditional and not normal as defined throughout all of human history then it should be encouraged and celebrated.

BOOM

Summed up Nicely.

[Primemuscle]

Apparently, you forgot to read my post.

But I get it. Anything you can do to normalize and encourage homosexual behavior. You foresee a time of progressive victory when a father can look on at his son walking out the door on his first date and it wouldn't matter if he was hand and hand with a girl or hand and hand with a guy. In fact, it would just be a cherry on the top and pure gravy if at least one of the boys were dressed as a girl, or if a girl, dressed as a boy. As long as the behavior is not traditional and not normal as defined throughout all of human history then it should be encouraged and celebrated.

Hopefully, you mean you in the general sense. You (in the personal sense) don't know me well enough to speak on my behalf. What I hope for is a time when people learn to mind their own fucking business instead of meddling in and commenting on other folks' choices.

[pellius]

Hopefully, you mean you in the general sense. You (in the personal sense) don't know me well enough to speak on my behalf. What I hope for is a time when people learn to mind their own fucking business instead of meddling in and commenting on other folks' choices.

You're right. I did go off on a tangent and meant the rest in a general sense. It's just getting out of hand and I get worked up. People should mind their own business but when it's thrown in your face, when policies are bullied to change, when laws are passed..., then it becomes my business.

Same-sex marriage is a perfect example. Same-sex couples could get married and play house for decades, if not centuries. A friend of mine showed me his wedding invitation for Bob Paris' marriage in the 80s. They got married, played house, nobody cared. Hugh Hefner was for all practical purposes living his life like a Polygamous. Again nobody cared. But when you force society, by passing laws that demand that one accept and even celebrate the redefining of a traditional family institution, then you have problems. The Left always says that they want the government to stay out of their bedroom. But then they look to the government to coerce others to accept their alternative lifestyles.

Do what you want. Just keep your bedroom and bathroom doors closed.

[pellius]

"One thing you are absolutely right about is that gay folks are everywhere. They always were but now they don't feel the need to hid it in the closet."


It use to be just common practice and normal etiquette -- not even given a second thought -- that personal business was personal business. Whether it was financial, sexual, personal... The common phrase was that you "don't air your dirty laundry." It was just considered normal civilized behavior. No deep thinking or involved self-reflection needed. Just good manners and consideration.

I think it was better when people felt the need to "hid it" more.

[Primemuscle]

You're right. I did go off on a tangent and meant the rest in a general sense. It's just getting out of hand and I get worked up. People should mind their own business but when it's thrown in your face, when policies are bullied to change, when laws are passed..., then it becomes my business.

Same-sex marriage is a perfect example. Same-sex couples could get married and play house for decades, if not centuries. A friend of mine showed me his wedding invitation for Bob Paris' marriage in the 80s. They got married, played house, nobody cared. Hugh Hefner was for all practical purposes living his life like a Polygamous. Again nobody cared. But when you force society, by passing laws that demand that one accept and even celebrate the redefining of a traditional family institution, then you have problems. The Left always says that they want the government to stay out of their bedroom. But then they look to the government to coerce others to accept their alternative lifestyles.

Do what you want. Just keep your bedroom and bathroom doors closed.

We currently live in a time of emerging sexual freedoms. People discussing their 'private lives' is commonplace and not at all limited to homosexuals. You and I grew up in a time when people just didn't talk about their sex lives publicly, although many did so privately. Times change, whether you like it or not. You do not have to agree with these changes. But, constantly fighting them is going to be a losing battle for you. 

[pellius]

We currently live in a time of emerging sexual freedoms. People discussing their 'private lives' is commonplace and not at all limited to homosexuals. You and I grew up in a time when people just didn't talk about their sex lives publicly, although many did so privately. Times change, whether you like it or not. You do not have to agree with these changes. But, constantly fighting them is going to be a losing battle for you. 

That's the huge difference between you and me. I just don't passively accept things that I believe is wrong. Win or lose I fight for what I believe in. Remember I said that my father made me read, To Kill a Mocking Bird, and pay close attention to Atticus Finch. There's more to being strong than guns, fists or muscle. There's strength in character and standing up for what's right -- win or lose. It's easy when you know you will win. The true test is do you stand up and fight even though you may lose?

“I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do.”

-- Atticus Finch to his young daughter, Scout.

-- Harper Lee, To Kill a Mocking Bird

[Primemuscle]

That's the huge difference between you and me. I just don't passively accept things that I believe is wrong. Win or lose I fight for what I believe in. Remember I said that my father made me read, To Kill a Mocking Bird, and pay close attention to Atticus Finch. There's more to being strong than guns, fists or muscle. There's strength in character and standing up for what's right -- win or lose. It's easy when you know you will win. The true test is do you stand up and fight even though you may lose?

“I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do.”

-- Atticus Finch to his young daughter, Scout.

-- Harper Lee, To Kill a Mocking Bird

Don't confuse idle, sometimes contentious and opposing discussions on Getbig with what goes on in the outside world. Standing up for your beliefs on Getbig is rather like acting the giant, chest beating ape. It all bluster and almost no substance.

Fictional character, Atticus Finch's dialog aside, when you think you are licked before you begin, you most certainly are.

[pellius]

Don't confuse idle, sometimes contentious and opposing discussions on Getbig with what goes on in the outside world. Standing up for your beliefs on Getbig is rather like acting the giant, chest beating ape. It all bluster and almost no substance.

Fictional character, Atticus Finch's dialog aside, when you think you are licked before you begin, you most certainly are.

No confusion. People state and defend their beliefs all the time here, including you. Now you're just talking just to talk. You have tons of free time and will comment on everything even if it has little to do with the subject at hand, especially if there is even a slightly tangential relationship to homosexuality. And, if not, you'll find one. I think that is one of the issues that people have, not with gays per se, but that some seem to define all of life through the prism of homosexuality.

I am hardly "licked". More people agree with my point of view than they do yours.

[Primemuscle]

No confusion. People state and defend their beliefs all the time here, including you. Now you're just talking just to talk. You have tons of free time and will comment on everything even if it has little to do with the subject at hand, especially if there is even a slightly tangential relationship to homosexuality. And, if not, you'll find one. I think that is one of the issues that people have, not with gays per se, but that some seem to define all of life through the prism of homosexuality.

I am hardly "licked". More people agree with my point of view than they do yours.

Are you sure?

Your are right, I wile or while (you choose) away a good deal of time on Getbig.  But then, I am retired and have a lot of time to waste on frivolous endeavors. What I don't get is folks, including you, who seem to have all the time in the world for Getbig when one would think y'all would be employed or have responsibilities other than shoot'n the shit around here. Aren't you in your 50's. Shouldn't you be working? What's the deal?

One of the differences between you and I is that you take Getbig very seriously. I did too once upon a time. I got over it.

[pellius]

Are you sure?

Your are right, I wile or while (you choose) away a good deal of time on Getbig.  But then, I am retired and have a lot of time to waste on frivolous endeavors. What I don't get is folks, including you, who seem to have all the time in the world for Getbig when one would think y'all would be employed or have responsibilities other than shoot'n the shit around here. Aren't you in your 50's. Shouldn't you be working? What's the deal?

One of the differences between you and I is that you take Getbig very seriously. I did too once upon a time. I got over it.

lol. Pay attention to the time I post. A little in the morning and then late in the day/early evening.
I'm almost 60. I retired from the DOD earlier this year. I work part time at a hardware store.

Get it?

[Fortress]

No straight fella wants to know anything about gays or what they’re doing.

It’s beyond disgusting and society needs to push the knobslobbers back into the closet.

[illuminati]

No straight fella wants to know anything about gays or what they’re doing.

It’s beyond disgusting and society needs to push the knobslobbers back into the closet.

Yes exactly right
The mentally dysfunctional Queers just don’t understand that.

They should be back in the closet & be quiet.